Road tax shocker :-(

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Hi we're picking up our 2018 Elddis 155 in a couple of weeks and I've just looked into the road tax. Have I read it correctly, as the original list price was over £40k and the engine is 2L I'm going to have to pay £280 + £335 (for first 5 years) ???
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Andy
 
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Vehicles with a list price of more than £40,000​

You have to pay an extra £335 a year if you have a car or motorhome with a ‘list price’ (the published price before any discounts) of more than £40,000. You do not have to pay this if you have a zero emission vehicle.

You only have to pay this rate for 5 years (from the second time the vehicle is taxed).

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andysee said:
Hi we're picking up our 2018 Elddis 155 in a couple of weeks and I've just looked into the road tax. Have I read it correctly, as the original list price was over £40k and the engine is 2L I'm going to have to pay £280 + £335 (for first 5 years) ???
Cheers
Andy
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Its a confusing issue as they implimented the road tax change and included motorhomes.
As far as i understand they then later amended it again and took motorhomes off the higher bracket,, There are some van that were registered in the higher band and cant be downgraded.
Best check with the seller and also maybe on a .gov online checker.

 
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i would of thought the dealer or seller would of told you about the tax cost, if its a dealer ask for a discount to cover the cost.
best of luck and happy motor homing

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andysee said:
Hi we're picking up our 2018 Elddis 155 in a couple of weeks and I've just looked into the road tax. Have I read it correctly, as the original list price was over £40k and the engine is 2L I'm going to have to pay £280 + £335 (for first 5 years) ???
Cheers
Andy
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Im confused as well.
They were going to introduce a wealth tax on all vehicles above £40,000 in April 2020, which is why I bought mine in November 2019.
As a result of the first Covid lockdown it was scrapped.
I only paid the standard fee of £230 last year
 
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andysee said:
Hi we're picking up our 2018 Elddis 155 in a couple of weeks and I've just looked into the road tax. Have I read it correctly, as the original list price was over £40k and the engine is 2L I'm going to have to pay £280 + £335 (for first 5 years) ???
Cheers
Andy
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Only those MHs registered in the period where the 'hike' occurred will have to pay the rates you quote, as yours was registered in 2018 it won't.
 
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Correct Minxy Girl (of course!;)) - we pay £265 for our 2019 Elddis Majestic 155.

edit: sorry - that was last year - it is £280 now……:(
 
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Stealaway said:
Im confused as well.
They were going to introduce a wealth tax on all vehicles above £40,000 in April 2020, which is why I bought mine in November 2019.
As a result of the first Covid lockdown it was scrapped.
I only paid the standard fee of £230 last year
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If it was registered in November 2019 you should have paid the luxury rate. It applied between 1st September 2019 and 12th March 2020
 
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There is some information here about the tax changes and dates implemented - can't absolutely confirm the veracity of the information, but it sounds very much like what I recall. Hope it's helpful. :unsure:

www.lexhaminsurance.co.uk

Complete Guide to Motorhome and Campervan Road Tax

Discover everything you need to know about the latest motorhome and campervan road tax rates and policy changes.
www.lexhaminsurance.co.uk www.lexhaminsurance.co.uk
 
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Lenny HB said:
If it was registered in November 2019 you should have paid the luxury rate. It applied between 1st September 2019 and 12th March 2020
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That's why I'm confused with these dates.
I am sure it was going to be introduced in April 2020.
 
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Does this tax increase still count if you up plate it to over 3.5t? Just an idea.
 
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andysee said:
Hi we're picking up our 2018 Elddis 155 in a couple of weeks and I've just looked into the road tax. Have I read it correctly, as the original list price was over £40k and the engine is 2L I'm going to have to pay £280 + £335 (for first 5 years) ???
Cheers
Andy
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I thought it was new vans only

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Stealaway said:
That's why I'm confused with these dates.
I am sure it was going to be introduced in April 2020.
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I checked my dates they are correct.
glenn2926 said:
Does this tax increase still count if you up plate it to over 3.5t? Just an idea.
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It was based on emissions & price not weight although at the time it was debatable if it applied to PHGV, it was rescinded before it was clarified.
Jimbohorlicks said:
I thought it was new vans only
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See post#4.
 
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Lenny HB said:
I checked my dates they are correct.

It was based on emissions & price not weight although at the time it was debatable if it applied to PHGV, it was rescinded before it was clarified.

See post#4.
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I've just that my new van was registered and taxed by the dealership in November 2019.
 
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Stealaway said:
I've just that my new van was registered and taxed by the dealership in November 2019.
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Don't know how they managed that, 1st registration should have been about £2300 then around an additional £350 on top of VED for the next 5 years.
 
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We escaped it when we bought our motorhome in May 2019 but the buggers got me when I changed my car earlier this year.

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Lots of old threads about the road tax issue, a couple below for starters:

www.motorhomefun.co.uk

New Motorhome Tax Costs? - 1st Sep 2019

Can anyone explain this to me please. I've just seen it a few minutes ago; https://www.spinney.co.uk/about/news/tax-increase
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motorhome tax response

There must be an argument for buying the minimum spec base vehicle to keep it under £40k then arranging extras to be fitted post purchase to avoid the luxury tax. I strongly suspect that we will think more carefully about which extras we spec in order to avoid the luxury tax. That's similar to...
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Lenny HB said:
If it was registered in November 2019 you should have paid the luxury rate. It applied between 1st September 2019 and 12th March 2020
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The actual start date was spposed to be april 2020 but some dealers & dvla started charging from the previous november incorrectly.It was the usual shambles.
Stealaway said:
That's why I'm confused with these dates.
I am sure it was going to be introduced in April 2020.
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No one should have paid before that date but , as above.
 
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Lenny HB said:
You dealer may not have put the emissions on the V55 where other did.
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I'll see if I can see the omission.
Although they insisted all the time we were negotiation a deal that the wealth tax was to be introduced in April 2020

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Calm Seas said:
this ^^^

isnt it only £100 odd a year for PHGV 3500kg (cant remember what I paid now)
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It's about a £100 discount over PLG. And I guess PHGV tax is fixed rate, not related to emissions if you've fallen down that rabbit hole.
 
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