Replacing cassette toilet and installing composting unit .

[Swifter]

I will be interested to see how this works out .

 

[Stealaway]

I've been aware of people trying to replace toilets with a composter on boat's and Moho for the last 20 plus years. I don't think anyone has managed it. They can never be large enough to work successfully.

 

[Swifter]

I just can’t see how this will be possible . I could be wrong but I know for sure if wouldn’t suit us. They are full time in the motorhome so I really hope it does work out for them, otherwise it’s going to be a very unpleasant experience.

 

[ChrisL]

I wonder how this will effect the value of his motorhome.

 

[TDub49]

I just can’t see how this will be possible . I could be wrong but I know for sure if wouldn’t suit us. They are full time in the motorhome so I really hope it does work out for them, otherwise it’s going to be a very unpleasant experience.

Not convinced that life is long enough to justify the effort but someone obviously thinks that the concept is viable:

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[Trevor Wbm]

Not convinced that life is long enough to justify the effort but someone obviously thinks that the concept is viable:

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Hmm. Logically, even after the alleged 60 days it takes to fill the solids tank, much of it will be a long way from being composted when it gets emptied, also the fan that stops the unit smelling has to have an outlet somewhere - probably means sleeping with the windows closed and wouldn't want to be on the next pitch. Gotta empty the pee bottle anyway so why not just take both ..... and Gawd help the emergency services if its ever in a rear-end shunt.

That's a 'no' from me.

 

[Jim]

/rant on/ 15 minutes in, this guy is talking about dumping his diy waste in site bins. Bins that he admits get filled by campers. Don't be that ignorant prat.

We have a small bin area. I'm always finding, carpets, old wheel trims, wellies, shoes, hand brake cables, bits of exhaust, dead leisure battteries, old cushions, loads of other old crap when they have locker clearouts, broken fishing rods, leaky buckets, a clutch! The bins on most CL's are for the bit of rubbish that camping might generate. If you have stuff like I mention above take it home, don't clog our small bins. And it you don't have a home, take it to the recycling centre, you thoughtless git /rant off.

 

[Lenny HB]

I've been aware of people trying to replace toilets with a composter on boat's and Moho for the last 20 plus years. I don't think anyone has managed it. They can never be large enough to work successfully.

I don't get it as it needs 9 months to a year for the waste to break down so to do it properly you need a second container for it to compost properly, so you need room and payload to carry over a years worth of sh*t around with you.
The sh*t the vanlifers come up with saying they are using composting toilets when they are dumping the pee in the hedge and bagging and dumping the sh*t in bins they must have a screw loose.

 

[Swifter]

/rant on/ 15 minutes in, this guy is talking about dumping his diy waste in site bins. Bins that he admits get filled by campers. Don't be that ignorant prat.

We have a small bin area. I'm always finding, carpets, old wheel trims, wellies, shoes, hand brake cables, bits of exhaust, dead leisure battteries, old cushions, loads of other old crap when they have locker clearouts, broken fishing rods, leaky buckets, a clutch! The bins on most CL's are for the bit of rubbish that camping might generate. If you have stuff like I mention above take it home, don't clog our small bins. And it you don't have a home, take it to the recycling centre, you thoughtless git /rant off.

The next video is out and he shows the amount of stuff he’s going to be putting in the bin . It’s a a fair bit and obviously wont compress down . I wonder if he’s had the respect to ask the site owners permission?

 

[Googlebot]

/rant on/ 15 minutes in, this guy is talking about dumping his diy waste in site bins. Bins that he admits get filled by campers. Don't be that ignorant prat.

We have a small bin area. I'm always finding, carpets, old wheel trims, wellies, shoes, hand brake cables, bits of exhaust, dead leisure battteries, old cushions, loads of other old crap when they have locker clearouts, broken fishing rods, leaky buckets, a clutch! The bins on most CL's are for the bit of rubbish that camping might generate. If you have stuff like I mention above take it home, don't clog our small bins. And it you don't have a home, take it to the recycling centre, you thoughtless git /rant off.

One of our favourite CL’s shut after similar issues.

It was only a fiver a night, in a beautiful location. Alas people took the mickey, constantly filling the recycling bin with dog crap bags so the bin lorry refused to empty it till they picked through it, using wipes in the toilets so it blocked the Elsan point constantly.

Final straw was when one person paid a fiver and then 2 friends turned up in their vans and expected the fiver to cover all three.

They were never going to get rich on £5 a night….

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[andrewedmondson]

Although referred to as compost toilets, they are really just a way of dehydrating solid excrement so that it doesn't smell. I made one for my classic yacht and it never smelled. Then I made a small one for my VW trooper. That never smells and doesn't have a fan; needs emptying every week.
Whilst large chemical toilets are convenient, they inevitably smell of perfume, which is why I cannot use them. If I didn't have this sensitivity, I would probably use a chemical toilet, though I wouldn't relish emptying them in a public facility.
Waste from a compost toilet will be contained in a strong bin bag and comprise dry material. It needs to be put into a refuse bin. It will not smell and will go to landfill, like dog waste, though the latter will not dehydrate.
I'm not sure which kind of toilet is more environmentally friendly. Chemical toilets use water and produce sewage that needs treating. The chemicals need to be produced and are costly. Compost toilets require bin bags and produce landfill.
Compost toilets don't require special facilities and are ideal for sailing, where there are tight regulations for discharging waste into coastal waters.

 

[Garry - June]

We had a friend who installed one on his Wharram Catamaran for which they are more suited ... for vans though the problem is it doesn't really change much... it only deals with solids..so you still have to go and empty the urine away just like you do now with your normal cassette.. also we also found it pretty strange when we used to go ashore with him occasionally, and he would be walking into town with us carrying his black bag of his personal compost looking for a bin to put it in.. Oh and not forgetting the "price"...they are very expensive.

 

[Don Campbell]

I don't get it as it needs 9 months to a year for the waste to break down so to do it properly you need a second container for it to compost properly, so you need room and payload to carry over a years worth of sh*t around with you.
The sh*t the vanlifers come up with saying they are using composting toilets when they are dumping the pee in the hedge and bagging and dumping the sh*t in bins they must have a screw loose.

Probably just as many screws loose as the ones who go around with tubes of superglue thinking they are God's gift to the environment.

We had a friend who installed one on his Wharram Catamaran for which they are more suited ... for vans though the problem is it doesn't really change much... it only deals with solids..so you still have to go and empty the urine away just like you do now with your normal cassette.. also we also found it pretty strange when we used to go ashore with him occasionally, and he would be walking into town with us carrying his black bag of his personal compost looking for a bin to put it in.. Oh and not forgetting the "price"...they are very expensive

I wonder why he went to all that trouble and didn't just shit in the sea using a marine toilet like we all did and it probably did less damage that foisting his muck on some small community to deal with.

 

[weefish]

I don't get it as it needs 9 months to a year for the waste to break down so to do it properly you need a second container for it to compost properly, so you need room and payload to carry over a years worth of sh*t around with you.
The sh*t the vanlifers come up with saying they are using composting toilets when they are dumping the pee in the hedge and bagging and dumping the sh*t in bins they must have a screw loose.

Probably just as many screws loose as the ones who go around with tubes of superglue thinking they are God's gift to the environment.

I wonder why he went to all that trouble and didn't just shit in the sea using a marine toilet like we all did and it probably did less damage that foisting his muck on some small community to deal with.

Do dog owners take all their waste home?

 

[Don Campbell]

Do dog owners take all their waste home?

You know, sometimes we do. We always pick up and if there isn't a handy bin we find a place for it in the back of the van intending to bin it as soon as we can. However we sometimes forget and only discover it when we clean the van out at home. Those black bags seem to contain the smell very well as otherwise it would reveal itself!

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[weefish]

Although referred to as compost toilets, they are really just a way of dehydrating solid excrement so that it doesn't smell. I made one for my classic yacht and it never smelled. Then I made a small one for my VW trooper. That never smells and doesn't have a fan; needs emptying every week.
Whilst large chemical toilets are convenient, they inevitably smell of perfume, which is why I cannot use them. If I didn't have this sensitivity, I would probably use a chemical toilet, though I wouldn't relish emptying them in a public facility.
Waste from a compost toilet will be contained in a strong bin bag and comprise dry material. It needs to be put into a refuse bin. It will not smell and will go to landfill, like dog waste, though the latter will not dehydrate.
I'm not sure which kind of toilet is more environmentally friendly. Chemical toilets use water and produce sewage that needs treating. The chemicals need to be produced and are costly. Compost toilets require bin bags and produce landfill.
Compost toilets don't require special facilities and are ideal for sailing, where there are tight regulations for discharging waste into coastal waters.

I also made a urine diverting toilet, £100 all in with no chemicals, fan, electrics or flush water needed. I’m never going back to that brown slurry. Use biodegradable bags to try and help with the landfill issue. Besides, nobody complains about all the bags used for dog waste.
The wrong chemicals can also kill septic tanks.

 

[Jezzapux]

I have adopted a different approach, I have had a SOG ( a German device which on opening the flap starts a tiny fan which draws air in to the toilet between the users legs and discharges through the vent to the outside). I have been using one for years on my toilet for years and no smells at all. I bought my first one for our bus in New Zealand about 15 years ago, fitted to an old freestanding Thetford 20l toilet, used it all the time for months as never stayed in sites just roamed free emptying in the many free dump stations around the country. Back here we had a Adria Twin and I fitted a SOG to the Thetford, Venting on the external side wall outside the toilet compartment. I have always felt that I could make one but difficulty in obtaining push fit couplings and fittings has resulted in laziness triumphing over parsimony.

Tips to get it to work properly:
Don't be too fussy with the rinsing out the inside. A bit left over from the previous load gives a kick start to the next one, it is the decomposition of the contents that starts the whole process.
The vehicle movement breaks everything down.
When emptying I haven't found the job too smelly, sometimes remarkably little although I don't spend to much time checking.
Never ever put any toilet cleaner, bleach etc down the toilet, they will kill all the bugs and result in a smelly toilet. We carry two holding tanks in case of not being able to empty, we seldom stay on big sites, if we do, we prefer the simple sites as long as it has a dump station and fresh water we can stay in the van for an unlimited time generally we move on after a day or two.
Over the years I must have saved a fortune on chemicals, incidentally ones containing formaldehyde which can upset a septic tanks haven't been available for years! Back to my early years of caravanning in the 70's. Old stories take years to die. In general most of the toilet horror stories and sagacious warnings are similar to the contents of the holding tank, a load of ****.
Happy motorhoming campers.
Incidentally I have found opening certain windows on the road quickly fills the MH with the unmistakable smell, it seems that the moving MH creates low pressure inside which puts the system into reverse and draws air through the toilet vent and into the van. Trial and error will quickly reveal which window. Close it.

 

[Northernraider]

I have adopted a different approach, I have had a SOG ( a German device which on opening the flap starts a tiny fan which draws air in to the toilet between the users legs and discharges through the vent to the outside). I have been using one for years on my toilet for years and no smells at all. I bought my first one for our bus in New Zealand about 15 years ago, fitted to an old freestanding Thetford 20l toilet, used it all the time for months as never stayed in sites just roamed free emptying in the many free dump stations around the country. Back here we had a Adria Twin and I fitted a SOG to the Thetford, Venting on the external side wall outside the toilet compartment. I have always felt that I could make one but difficulty in obtaining push fit couplings and fittings has resulted in laziness triumphing over parsimony.

Tips to get it to work properly:
Don't be too fussy with the rinsing out the inside. A bit left over from the previous load gives a kick start to the next one, it is the decomposition of the contents that starts the whole process.
The vehicle movement breaks everything down.
When emptying I haven't found the job too smelly, sometimes remarkably little although I don't spend to much time checking.
Never ever put any toilet cleaner, bleach etc down the toilet, they will kill all the bugs and result in a smelly toilet. We carry two holding tanks in case of not being able to empty, we seldom stay on big sites, if we do, we prefer the simple sites as long as it has a dump station and fresh water we can stay in the van for an unlimited time generally we move on after a day or two.
Over the years I must have saved a fortune on chemicals, incidentally ones containing formaldehyde which can upset a septic tanks haven't been available for years! Back to my early years of caravanning in the 70's. Old stories take years to die. In general most of the toilet horror stories and sagacious warnings are similar to the contents of the holding tank, a load of ****.
Happy motorhoming campers.
Incidentally I have found opening certain windows on the road quickly fills the MH with the unmistakable smell, it seems that the moving MH creates low pressure inside which puts the system into reverse and draws air through the toilet vent and into the van. Trial and error will quickly reveal which window. Close it.

Hate to tell you but you're teaching your granny to suck eggs with this post. Have been discussed to death on here.


I fitted one on my hymer but wasn't that impressed with it .

 

[ChrisL]

My cassette has a vent that vents to the roof, but no fan, in warm weather even though the cassette has blue in it when driving the smell gets sucked into the rear vent which is permanently open and cannot be closed filling the van with aroma de poop, I therefore normally travel with an empty cassette unless unable to empty for some reason.

 

[Minxy]

Hate to tell you but you're teaching your granny to suck eggs with this post. Have been discussed to death on here.


I fitted one on my hymer but wasn't that impressed with it .

Isn't that's a bit disingenuous? Not everyone will be familiar with SOGs etc.

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[minesapint]

The next video is out and he shows the amount of stuff he’s going to be putting in the bin . It’s a a fair bit and obviously wont compress down . I wonder if he’s had the respect to ask the site owners permission?

Is this for real or is it a wind up ?.
How to take a good van and convert it to a heap of junk. The site owner should ask him to leave, and take his junk, and bags of poo with him.

 

[Swifter]

Is this for real or is it a wind up ?.
How to take a good van and convert it to a heap of junk. The site owner should ask him to leave, and take his junk, and bags of poo with him.

I forgot I had posted this lol