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[Rudski01]

Well we got our money back, but it’s now been covered with glass, not saying the de lamination hasn’t been fixed but I’d be v suspicious.

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Here’s how it looked after the bodge job

 

[jongood]

Well we got our money back, but it’s now been covered with glass, not saying the de lamination hasn’t been fixed but I’d be v suspicious.

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Here’s how it looked after the bodge job

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The inappropriate glass would make anyone who new what they were looking at suspicious but I guess they re not looking for that kind of customer. £150K for a bodge, disgraceful.

 

[Jimbohorlicks]

Nice van ,shame about the decal/ damage and the internal colour scheme.

 

[Jackd]

Sorry, I may have missed it in a previous thread, but what’s the story behind this?

 

[Rudski01]

Sorry, I may have missed it in a previous thread, but what’s the story behind this?

I purchased it and as soon as the sun heated the side a huge blister type effect bulged out the side, it was supposedly repaired and returned to me, basically cut a hole in the side and stuck it back on
Anyway fair play to the dealer, he didn’t contest my rejection letter, just kept me hanging for a couple of months while he sunned himself and I got v little sleep, got a full refund.
Back up for sale with glass on the sides now

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[Rudski01]

The inappropriate glass would make anyone who new what they were looking at suspicious but I guess they re not looking for that kind of customer. £150K for a bodge, disgraceful.

I’ve posted on the FB Carthago page, just warning people, as stated Carthago said it could be repaired but would be needing to drill holes inside.
But yes not as per original design, that’s for sure.

 

[Jimbohorlicks]

What was behind that wall area ,for info. Could it be replaced with a window for example.?

 

[Jackd]

What I don’t understand is the side of that van is Aluminium. Nothing to de-laminate as such.
It looks like someone has cut a bloody great square out of it. Why?

 

[jongood]

What I don’t understand is the side of that van is Aluminium. Nothing to de-laminate as such.
It looks like someone has cut a bloody great square out of it. Why?

In common with the better made MH's they re an aluminium and pu foam sandwich so basically glued together, the great thing about this is there is no structural wood to rot but very occasionally ( rarely actually) the aluminium separates from the foam and you get a bubble.

 

[Jackd]

In common with the better made MH's they re an aluminium and pu foam sandwich so basically glued together, the great thing about this is there is no structural wood to rot but very occasionally ( rarely actually) the aluminium separates from the foam and you get a bubble.

Not in a perfect square it wouldn’t

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[funflair]

What I don’t understand is the side of that van is Aluminium. Nothing to de-laminate as such.
It looks like someone has cut a bloody great square out of it. Why?

It's laminated onto foam so can come away.

EDIT as Jon said above

 

[Jamesh]

Not in a perfect square it wouldn’t

What's to stop it happening else where on the panel?

Up there with dodgy Avondale windows!!

 

[Jackd]

It's laminated onto foam so can come away.

EDIT as Jon said above

I’m fully aware of what the panel is made up from. My point is, even if it was de-lamination, it wouldn’t do it in a way that showed perfectly vertical and horizontal lines.
I bet if you pulled that graphic off, you would find someone has cut into the Ali

 

[Lenny HB]

What's to stop it happening else where on the panel?

That would be the worrying bit, if the panel has delaminated in one area how good is the bond on the rest of that side panel.

 

[Jackd]

Apologies. I have just re-read the ops answer. Yes they have cut a square out of it.

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[Jackd]

I purchased it and as soon as the sun heated the side a huge blister type effect bulged out the side, it was supposedly repaired and returned to me, basically cut a hole in the side and stuck it back on
Anyway fair play to the dealer, he didn’t contest my rejection letter, just kept me hanging for a couple of months while he sunned himself and I got v little sleep, got a full refund.
Back up for sale with glass on the sides now

Did Serinity Leisure do that repair? I’m gobsmacked how anyone could try and bodge a van of that cost and quality to be honest. Wow

 

[TheBig1]

It should have gone straight back to Carthago who would protect their premium good name and put a whole new side on. The clown that did the hatchet job should lose their job and the dealer their franchise

 

[Rudski01]

Did Serinity Leisure do that repair? I’m gobsmacked how anyone could try and bodge a van of that cost and quality to be honest. Wow

No he sent it to a bodywork shop

 

[Rudski01]

It should have gone straight back to Carthago who would protect their premium good name and put a whole new side on. The clown that did the hatchet job should lose their job and the dealer their franchise

He’s an independent dealer, if he’d done some homework instead of rushing to get it done then it would have been fixable.
It took me a day to speak with the importers who spoke to Carthago technical team who sketched out how the repair should be carried out, they then put me onto the bodywork shop who do work for them they’re next door to premium motorhomes, they said yes can be repaired but nothing to stop it popping again, that’s why I rejected it.

 

[Rudski01]

What was behind that wall area ,for info. Could it be replaced with a window for example.?

Shower, but fully sealed shower cubicle at that.

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[Jackd]

No he sent it to a bodywork shop

And that’s where the apprentice was given his first ever job.
I wouldn’t expect that kind of behaviour on a 20k van let alone 150k
I’m surprised they didn’t offer you your money back before you even went to collect it, out of embarrassment.
Shocking!

 

[Rudski01]

And that’s where the apprentice was given his first ever job.
I wouldn’t expect that kind of behaviour on a 20k van let alone 150k
I’m surprised they didn’t offer you your money back before you even went to collect it, out of embarrassment.
Shocking!

Totally agree, I told him I was OCD when it comes to cleaning/ panel’s being straight etc, so sort of made it even worse

 

[stewartwebr]

It’s more common than you may think. I had a similar issue with a Morelo but it was put right back at Morelo factory.
I know we all have different taste, in this case I can find nothing attractive in the interior of that van, my goodness what an ugly dashboard.

 

[Rudski01]

It’s more common than you may think. I had a similar issue with a Morelo but it was put right back at Morelo factory.
I know we all have different taste, in this case I can find nothing attractive in the interior of that van, my goodness what an ugly dashboard.

Yep, maybe dodged the bullet of need to get this re upholstered

 

[jongood]

And that’s where the apprentice was given his first ever job.
I wouldn’t expect that kind of behaviour on a 20k van let alone 150k
I’m surprised they didn’t offer you your money back before you even went to collect it, out of embarrassment.
Shocking!

Have you not had many dealings with the motor trade? Some of them do some shocking things.

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[jongood]

It’s more common than you may think. I had a similar issue with a Morelo but it was put right back at Morelo factory.
I know we all have different taste, in this case I can find nothing attractive in the interior of that van, my goodness what an ugly dashboard.

Did you ever see the Opus that preceded that model? Shocking to me but yes each to their own. Hows the search going Rudski01 ?

 

[Rudski01]

Did you ever see the Opus that preceded that model? Shocking to me but yes each to their own. Hows the search going Rudski01 ?

The Search is nearly over jongood, all will be revealed when I get to our destination this evening

 

[MichaelT]

It’s more common than you may think. I had a similar issue with a Morelo but it was put right back at Morelo factory.
I know we all have different taste, in this case I can find nothing attractive in the interior of that van, my goodness what an ugly dashboard.

I find the Orange wood horrible, great vans but the décor yuck

 

[sallys]

I purchased it and as soon as the sun heated the side a huge blister type effect bulged out the side, it was supposedly repaired and returned to me, basically cut a hole in the side and stuck it back on
Anyway fair play to the dealer, he didn’t contest my rejection letter, just kept me hanging for a couple of months while he sunned himself and I got v little sleep, got a full refund.
Back up for sale with glass on the sides now

FYI the previous owner bought our Morelo Empire. We were going to possibly take the Carthago Liner in part exchange but when we viewed it the delamination was clear to see…along with lots of other paintwork/previous repairs. So the owner knew about the issue as we pointed it out to him. Lucky dealer was decent and gave you your money back as I think initially he was selling it on behalf of the owner.

 

[Rudski01]

FYI the previous owner bought our Morelo Empire. We were going to possibly take the Carthago Liner in part exchange but when we viewed it the delamination was clear to see…along with lots of other paintwork/previous repairs. So the owner knew about the issue as we pointed it out to him. Lucky dealer was decent and gave you your money back as I think initially he was selling it on behalf of the owner.

I think we definitely dodged a bullet, but happy as a pig in sh**e with this we’ve just picked up

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