Refillable Gas -v- Exchange bottle gas (1 Viewer)

[Spriddler]

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Yep, I considered that but didn't want to run the risk of a filling station refusing me, which has apparently happened to folk who have had to open a locker to get at their refill fitting.
Refusal when folk have to open lockers doesn't seem common but when abroad where I make 90% of my refills I didn't want to have to argue with pump kiosk persons. I guess you've never had a problem like that so maybe opening a locker is mostly acceptable.

 

[Steve and Denise]

I see what you say and have heard of this but as you say never myself had a problem,
I have put it down to having the filler point mounted on the bodywork.

 

[Wellington]

Officially not. But the only time I was refused service was on a motorway near Milan. Once we got further South the law was ignored, as long as you had an external filler. In one case the guy on the hose (you are not allowed to self-serve) asked me "engine?" and I said "yes" and he filled it up. After all I have got an engine in my motorhome haven't I?

They didn't even ask me. I was too busy fumbling with the right adapters and getting the right bloody gas! (it would appear there are two types in Italy, and I had to go to a different pump.) I looked a right idiot, obviously hadn't a clue what I was doing, and they didn't give a fig. Clearly, it was nothing to do with the engine or I'd never have got there!

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[SCOTTY67NO]

Just had these fitted. About £500 all in. Don’t forget to get the brass adapters for different countries.3 of those £45. Had GasLo in my last van....couldn’t do without it. Remember dragging exchange gas bottles in and out of the locker when skiing for many years pre refillable ☹


Are the brass adaptators required to fill up at petrol stations in different countries????
Or am I just being dim?

 

[SCOTTY67NO]

Sufficiently dim not even ask a question properly anyway

 

[peterc10]

Yes the brass adaptors are for other countries. You should have 3 or 4 depending upon what type of filler you have. If you have the large round filler that is already fitted with a standard UK bayonet fitting, so you will only need the three additional ones that cover all of the European countries. If you have the small square one, that is not fitted with a UK bayonet fitting, so you will need an adaptor for the UK as well.

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[peterc10]

Sufficiently dim not even ask a question properly anyway

Easy to do. If you quote another post make sure you start your typing outside the area between the two "QUOTE" in square brackets at the start and finish of the quote.

 

[Lenny HB]

Are the brass adaptators required to fill up at petrol stations in different countries????
Or am I just being dim?

There are different adaptors.
Holland uses the same one as the UK the bayonet.
Belgium, Germany & Austria use a scew cup.
France & Portugal, Italy & Greece a dished cup.
Spain and newer pumps in Portugal a Euro connector.
I may not be 100% doing it from memory.

Useful info here.

LPG connectors and adapters - myLPG.eu

A list of all LPG connectors/adapters and which country has which adapter. There are four LPG adapters: ACME adapter, Bayonet adapter, Dish adapter and Euronozzle adapter

www.mylpg.eu

 

[DDJC]

Had mine fitted last week. Gaslow, single 11kg with a pigtail for a spare bottle.
£500 all in.

Filled up at Cobham services on the M25. Easy.

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[pandas]

No sorry, I am not being clear. I have an external gas point for the smaller moho bbq, I am talking about taking out a gas bottle to use on my big bbq in the garden! Seems a bit of a waste to have two different types of gas supply in use.

What can I say? We like bbqs

But there’s nothing better than bbq fuelled by charcoal - well that stuck my chin out!

 

[rick brind]

A gas bbq is an outdoor gas griddle not a bbq a charcoal bbq is a BBQ no comparison in cooking skills or flavour

 

[DDJC]

A gas bbq is an outdoor gas griddle not a bbq a charcoal bbq is a BBQ no comparison in cooking skills or flavour

But there’s nothing better than bbq fuelled by charcoal - well that stuck my chin out!

Mildly disagree with both of you, because what comes off my outdoor gas powered barbecue BBQ griddle non-charcoaled grill requires astonishing skill, tastes like it has several dozen Michelin stars and requires a lot less cleaning.

Charcoal is for people who like to cook their food to the same flavour, colour and texture as charcoal.



Thanks Lenny, I'll be getting a set of adapters.

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[March Hare]

Don't forget Alugas! When considering weight, and with payload issues many have to, these are by far the lightest refillables that can be 'plumbed' into the van to give a fixed refill point and reduce potential filling difficulties and access cheaper gas.

Chris Wise at Autogas 2000 will talk through the possibilities with you, I ended up fitting a single 14kg Alugas cylinder. That's almost 28L of propane and the cylinder itself only weighs 7.5kg, less than the 8.3kg of a single standard 6kg Calor Propane and not too far short of half that of a 13kg Calor at 13.2kg!

My first fill cost £16.05, 27.2l, whereas a 6kg Calor now costs £23.45 to exchange. I will never willingly go back to exchange cylinders.

Another vote for Alugas from AutoGas 2000 in Thirsk. Chris is incredibly helpful and John the engineer does a great job with the installation. They've got an online shop so you can purchase all the components from there. Alternatively, they have a couple of EHU's so you can book in with the workshop to get the gas cylinders fitted and stay overnight if you need to! Oh, and their prices are great! You can tell that we're big fans but we've had terrific service from them as we're newbies to the wonderful world of motorhoming!!!

[ETA: Apologies for replying to an earlier post on the thread - I hadn't spotted that the discussion had moved on somewhat - sorry! ]

 

[DDJC]

Another vote for Alugas from AutoGas 2000 in Thirsk. Chris is incredibly helpful and John the engineer does a great job with the installation. They've got an online shop so you can purchase all the components from there. Alternatively, they have a couple of EHU's so you can book in with the workshop to get the gas cylinders fitted and stay overnight if you need to! Oh, and their prices are great! You can tell that we're big fans but we've had terrific service from them as we're newbies to the wonderful world of motorhoming!!!

[ETA: Apologies for replying to an earlier post on the thread - I hadn't spotted that the discussion had moved on somewhat - sorry! ☹]

Once the filler cap is fitted, can you straight swap Gaslow for Alugas or is it an entirely different system? Those Gaslow bottles are certainly heavy!!

 

[TCG]

Quick question guys.

If you change from exchange to refillable can you keep your crash sensor

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[peterc10]

Quick question guys.

If you change from exchange to refillable can you keep your crash sensor

Which crash sensor? The one on each pigtail or the one on the Truma Secumotion regulator?

 

[Lenny HB]

Quick question guys.

If you change from exchange to refillable can you keep your crash sensor

Yes, crash sensor is in the regulator, most of latest bottles have the anti-rupture valve so you don't need the ant-rupture pigtails.

 

[Lenny HB]

Which crash sensor? The one on each pigtail or the one on the Truma Secumotion regulator?

The one in the pigtail is ant-rupture it's not a crash sensor.

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[TCG]

Which crash sensor? The one on each pigtail or the one on the Truma Secumotion regulator?

The one with the two green buttons below the regulator

 

[leggings]

Had mine fitted last week. Gaslow, single 11kg with a pigtail for a spare bottle.
£500 all in.

Filled up at Cobham services on the M25. Easy.

Much more efficient and cheaper to use LPG refillable but with the introduction of electric vehicles garages offering LPG may become rarer.

 

[TCG]

Hi Guys - Another quick question - looking at having refills fitted. narrowed down to three options

Gaslow 2x11kg £550
Alugas 2x11kg £603
Gast it 2x11kg £409

Which is best, and why is there a £250 variance between top and bottom. i am interested in your thoughts and experiences

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[Engineer999]

We had the 11kg Alugas fitted by Ian at Motorhome Tech, very reasonable price, due to the installers getting a better discount than Joe Public, would certainly recommend.

Colin

 

[Landy Andy]

Hi Guys - Another quick question - looking at having refills fitted. narrowed down to three options

Gaslow 2x11kg £550
Alugas 2x11kg £603
Gast it 2x11kg £409

Which is best, and why is there a £250 variance between top and bottom. i am interested in your thoughts and experiences

£250??? £194. Unless I’m missing something. Alugas is more money as lighter bottles, but Gasit and Gaslow are same bottles, different hoses I believe.

 

[Ingwe]

Don't forget Alugas! When considering weight, and with payload issues many have to, these are by far the lightest refillables that can be 'plumbed' into the van to give a fixed refill point and reduce potential filling difficulties and access cheaper gas.

Chris Wise at Autogas 2000 will talk through the possibilities with you, I ended up fitting a single 14kg Alugas cylinder. That's almost 28L of propane and the cylinder itself only weighs 7.5kg, less than the 8.3kg of a single standard 6kg Calor Propane and not too far short of half that of a 13kg Calor at 13.2kg!

My first fill cost £16.05, 27.2l, whereas a 6kg Calor now costs £23.45 to exchange. I will never willingly go back to exchange cylinders.

Heartily endorse this, in particular the advice to speak to Chris Wise at Autogas 2000. We too had a 14kg Alugas bottle and, apart from failing Truma regulators, this has sorted our gas problems in the U.K., France, Spain, Italy, Portugal, Belgium and Greece.

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[abforfun]

We have gaslow fitted its been great up till now, as i said 12 months ago all autogas tanks at shell will be out before dec 2020 and BP are pulling out there tanks as well.Were heading for scotland 21st aug anyone know where we can refill up north have been on lpgfill site there way out of date.

 

[Simon Meadwell]

If payload is a problem Alugas if not either of the other two

 

[MR BLO]

Twin Gassit 6kg in our MoHo. I did look at the Alugas but for a saving of 8kg over the two bottles the extra cost was not warranted, but I can afford the payload. If I couldn’t then I would have gone Alugas and it would still pay. Save £30-34 to fill up the pair from empty compared against two 6kg exchange bottles. Use it throughout the winter to run heating so save the cost of EHU too. It all counts towards the payback. I have even rigged up an especially long hose from the camper on the drive to my garden bbq, and have paid for the original install easily in the 32months that we have had the van.

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[Fragle]

We’ve just fitted 2x11kg with auto change over and external fill point. All delivered to the house £500. From auto additions nationwide Ltd.
Excellent to deal with very good price for r67 bottles. Fitting took about an hour. Very easy apart from drilling that big hole

 

[Fragle]

That was for twin gaslows

 

[Wellington]

Much more efficient and cheaper to use LPG refillable but with the introduction of electric vehicles garages offering LPG may become rarer.

true. Both of our local ones have shut down, but several on the M1 still have it and it seemed common in both France and Italy.

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