Re map horrors

[Just us on Tour]

Hi All
I am thinking of have my fiat 2021 fiat 2.2 with the 9 speed auto re mapped . I hear various positive things about the benefits of re mapping .
Has anyone had any nightmares or issues after they have had their van re mapped ?

 

[The Coops]

None whatsoever, used Celtic Tuning on the drive but it was a six speed manual box

 

[BusyBuilder]

Celtic did my previous B544 2.3 130bhp, certainly made it an easier dive on our Highland hills.

 

[Hettie's Crew]

Not something I’ve ever considered and never will, our 150 2.3 is more than enough and our previous 130 was alright.
Increasing the fuel going through is the only way power is increased and that can have adverse affect on the rest of the system.
My friends Landrover was done and whilst it was a little more powerful it was also very sooty.

 

[Two on Tour]

Had our Peugeot Boxer 2.2 remapped 6 years ago with a Quantum remap, and no problems associated with it since then.
There are the usual unsubstantiated "my mate down the pub said" problems like shortening the life of the clutch, but these would be down to poor driving style.

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[MichaelT]

Just wondering why you'd need it remapped we have the 2.2 with 180hp 9spd and it goes brilliantly much better than our older 2.3one?

 

[Jabstatt]

I’ve had the 2014 Boxer remapped. Better torque. Pulls better and is more economical.

Well worth the cost.

Tony.

 

[Just us on Tour]

Just wondering why you'd need it remapped we have the 2.2 with 180hp 9spd and it goes brilliantly much better than our older 2.3one?

Hi MichaelT
We have the 160 bhp and we tow a small car .
I find it a bit underpowered on steep hills. I so wish I had gone for the 180 bhp. I am told it’s the same engine but just mapped differently??
May I ask what year your is ? There are so many engines in these I get confused. I think mine being a 21 was the last run out before the series 8.
Incidentally fiat have dropped the 160 bhp now I believe you can only get 120, 140 Or the 180 bhp .

 

[gpat]

. I so wish I had gone for the 180 bhp. I am told it’s the same engine but just mapped differently??

This is a common misconception. They are the same engine but they are more than just remapped.

 

[Jim]

I've always thought the whole industry a bit of smoke and mirror. I wonder how much the effect of a remap is just a placebo, someone tells you it will be better, charges you loads of money and you convince yourself it is. You really believe it. You believe it so much, you'll rush on here to tell me I'm Sooo wrong

Just like someone I know, a sensible and intelligent chap who, no matter what I said, insisted he got an extra 5 to 10 mpg by aligning fuel molecules using some expensive special earth magnets he bought and clamped around his fuel line. ..

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[Just us on Tour]

I've always thought the whole industry a bit of smoke and mirror. I wonder how much the effect of a remap is just a placebo, someone tells you it will be better, charge you loads of money and you convince yourself it is. You really believe it. You believe it so much, you'll rush on here to tell me I'm sooo wrong

Just like someone I know, a sensible and intelligent chap who, no matter what I said, insisted he got an extra 5 to 10 mpg by aligning fuel molecules by using some expensive special earth magnets he bought clamped around his fuel line. ..

lol . Very good point

 

[Lenny HB]

Just wondering why you'd need it remapped we have the 2.2 with 180hp 9spd and it goes brilliantly much better than our older 2.3one?

I too don't understand why anyone would want the new 2.2 remapping.

Maybe to reduce the power I'm always going too fast in mine.

 

[MichaelT]

Hi MichaelT
We have the 160 bhp and we tow a small car .
I find it a bit underpowered on steep hills. I so wish I had gone for the 180 bhp. I am told it’s the same engine but just mapped differently??
May I ask what year your is ? There are so many engines in these I get confused. I think mine being a 21 was the last run out before the series 8.
Incidentally fiat have dropped the 160 bhp now I believe you can only get 120, 140 Or the 180 bhp .

It's 2024 on a carthago compactline at 4t.

 

[Just us on Tour]

It's 2024 on a carthago compactline at 4t.

Beautiful van …..I am turning green with envy . We love the Carthago! We may even treat ourselves . It would have to be the 180 bhp though

 

[MichaelT]

Beautiful van …..I am turning green with envy . We love the Carthago! We may even treat ourselves . It would have to be the 180 bhp though

That's all they come in

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[Just us on Tour]

That's all they come in

We fancy the c line 6.2 XL QB . It’s a tag . I need to drive one to see how the 180 bhp copes with the Tag . It’s plated at 5.5T

 

[BusyBuilder]

Just wondering why you'd need it remapped we have the 2.2 with 180hp 9spd and it goes brilliantly much better than our older 2.3one?

Not everyone has 180bhp, why would you want 180bhpin a motorhome anyway??

 

[MichaelT]

Not everyone has 180bhp, why would you want 180bhpin a motorhome anyway??

Obviously the power gives a faster pull away, better for hills and much smoother, also think it's a bit more economical as it's not struggling.

 

[Speve]

Not everyone has 180bhp, why would you want 180bhpin a motorhome anyway??

To tow a car trailer it is marginally better than the old 150bhp as it keeps its revs when climbing

 

[Just us on Tour]

Not everyone has 180bhp, why would you want 180bhpin a motorhome anyway??

Yes I agree with MichaelT it’s not about speed or even pulling away it’s about torque I think . Having a smoother comfortable performance rather than an engine that appears to be working hard . In my case we are towing a small car that weighs nearly a ton so I am thinking an engine with more power would hopefully cope a little easier

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[Just us on Tour]

To tow a car trailer it is marginally better than the old 150bhp as it keeps its revs when climbing

yes I agree

 

[Speve]

yes I agree

We tow a twin axle trailer with a Fiat panda 4 x4 cross around 1500 kg in all

 

[Barriesimpson]

I've always thought the whole industry a bit of smoke and mirror. I wonder how much the effect of a remap is just a placebo, someone tells you it will be better, charges you loads of money and you convince yourself it is. You really believe it. You believe it so much, you'll rush on here to tell me I'm Sooo wrong

Just like someone I know, a sensible and intelligent chap who, no matter what I said, insisted he got an extra 5 to 10 mpg by aligning fuel molecules by using some expensive special earth magnets he bought clamped around his fuel line. ..

I agree with you. I really don't see the point in remapping. If you need more power and torque you should buy a van with the higher powered engine.

 

[Landy Andy]

The only people who have problems with remapping are those that have never had it done.

Vehicles are limited electronically to meet environmental rules. Why not make the most of what can be.

 

[jezport]

On my last van I tested a Vortex exhaust system, It did make the van more powerful on hills, before I needed to drop down gears on the Pennines, after I didn't. Also got around 11% better fuel economy. Tested by me in a real environment.

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[Just us on Tour]

Hi All
I am thinking of have my fiat 2021 fiat 2.2 with the 9 speed auto re mapped . I hear various positive things about the benefits of re mapping .
Has anyone had any nightmares or issues after they have had their van re mapped ?

I just realised my engine is the 2.3 160 bhp Derrrr!

 

[Lenny HB]

I just realised my engine is the 2.3 160 bhp Derrrr!

That explains it they only do a 140 & 180 in the 2.2, I think they did a 160 for a few months.

 

[Lenny HB]

Obviously the power gives a faster pull away, better for hills and much smoother, also think it's a bit more economical as it's not struggling.

Mine drinks fuel.

 

[Just us on Tour]

Mine drinks fuel.

Hi Lenny
Mine is very good on fuel. I get about 28mpg towing . Is there much difference power wise do you know between the 2.3 160 bhp and the 2.2 180 bhp . As I think you know we are considering buying a Carthago tag 180 bhp 2.2 fiat or upgrading our existing van and maybe doing a re map . We love the Carthago bay are a little concerned the bigger , heavier van may not tow as well despite having a more powerful engine even though it’s slightly smaller being a 2.2 .

 

[Vansflyer]

I've always thought the whole industry a bit of smoke and mirror. I wonder how much the effect of a remap is just a placebo, someone tells you it will be better, charges you loads of money and you convince yourself it is. You really believe it. You believe it so much, you'll rush on here to tell me I'm Sooo wrong

Just like someone I know, a sensible and intelligent chap who, no matter what I said, insisted he got an extra 5 to 10 mpg by aligning fuel molecules using some expensive special earth magnets he bought clamped around his fuel line. ..

Valid points on the placebo effects of some "tuning boxes" and such like but if you get a proper remap the dyno figures before and after don't lie. I have had a few cars done and several motorbikes by "proper" tuners and the difference can be staggering, more torque, a flatter torque line and no running lean and jerking at low revs (this is on the bikes).
This does not come cheap but does the job for me and many others. Our van has enough power and has only got better as the miles have gone on so no need currently but a remap done well is money well spent IMHO.