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However Terry, the whole point is that Maz should not have to do this.
Just like the rest of us, shouldn't have to do anything. But the industry doesn't agree.
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IF I remember right big IF If you cannot get to stuff the FF from the vents then try stuffing it from the front and shoving it in with a stick :thumb:--make sure you have a carbon monoxide detector in your van the Frifge should be sealed completely -read fitting instructions-the oven does not need to be airtight
terry
The secret is to be clueless.
Our Autotrail seems fine to me.
I wouldn't notice some of the shit that more practical folk do.:thumb:
all you need terry is a proper conversion . stop playing with them little ones .hee hee:thumb:
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i converted a big one yet still only have a little one .ha ha .
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Hi all I do agree with the original post. For the money we/I spend on these motorhomes I would have expected them to be of better quality. Dont get me wrong but when spending nearly 50k I would have hoped that more care and "respect" was taken.im happy with my purchase and only hoping all motorhomes are full of rattles.
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I have just been looking at a Austin 7 , everything on it was over engineered because that was all the knowlage and materials at the time would allow.
It is still here and driving around :thumb:
Now with clever computer controlled machines and modern plastic and clever carbon fibre materials everything is cut/shaved all to cut costs ,weight .
What the factory needs is a heavyweight couple of campers to test out these motorhomes.
Two 25 stone big campers bashing around inside a MH ,sitting on the loo,leaning on plastic walls ,using the seats ect for a week.
Then return it to the factory so they can see what the real world can do :thumb:
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So after walking around the Narrowboat Show and chatting to some of the marine engineers and boat builders I'm amazed at just how much work and skill goes into the making of a narrowboat, from scratch, to a customers requirements:thumb:
It starts off with a blank design sheet and an open mind, then from a roll of steel they make the hull to a thickness of 10mm, then 6mm steel for the upper section and finally 4mm for the roof and when your looking at a 60 foot boat, that's a lot of steel. Then the entire wiring harness is made up and fitted to your requirements, before the boat is then sealed with spray foam to approx 45mm thickness. Then the inside is lined with a mixture of hard wood and ceramic tiles, again depending on the customers requirements. Windows are fitted to your choice too. The woods usual American Oak for hard wear and long life. Then they ask to what extent you'll use the boat, will it be casual cruising or full time live aboard as that'll result in the choice of engines, gearboxes, how many batteries you want, a charger and converter system, the kitchen including a granite work top that'll also match the bathroom, the full cooker, fridge, washing machine and in most cases the dish washer. A wood burning stove sits neatly in the corner, along with full water circulated central heating. The bathroom will have a full size shower, pump out toilet, sink and lots of storage space and the bedrooms will have full size beds. The other bits and bobs are endless, with the prop, ropes, cupboards, wardrobes etc etc etc and all this for £72K and your involved throughout the entire build process. The price can go up if you wish to increase the spec further, but at around £85K it'll be top notch:thumb:
Now I'm picturing Autotrail (I mention them cos it's what I've got) and the phone call to them stating that you want them to build the motorhome to your spec and on your chassis choice, and it must include all the parts you want and wish for, dictate to them where they'll be fitted and what type of wood and finish you require. Fine chance:Sad:
Instead they bring in a cab that's built on a production line, a chassis also built the same way and they simply fit the living quarters on top, which will have also been assembled on a production line and then charge us the earth for the privilege. Wouldn't it be nice if these large firms offered such a service and prided themselves on the fit and finish, then we could say value for money
Oh and yes yes yes, self build self build self build, but that not what I'm getting at:thumb:
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I did 118 miles in my van today and all that went wrong was a screw coming out of the sliding door trim and a few others coming loose and the roof vent winding handle fell off onto the floor :thumb:
I hope you have read my thread titled Auto-Trail woes.
We were away thus weekend and so I now have things to add to the "fix it" list.
Kitchen cupboard door fell off as we were travelling, toilet cupboard door has come adrift from it's hinges and worst of all. The bed has started to fall apart.
I will be resurecting the thread with new updates very shortly.
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I'm not sure if your having a good old kid on, but are we ok to say that we did 118 miles and ALL that went wrong, surely nothing should have gone wrong
Is your kitchen cupboard door fitted with a double spice rack on the back? Ours is but I've now removed it as it caused the screwholes on cupboard side to become oversize, right pain on such a new van, screws are not very substantial and it would be better if hinge had a 4 hole lug.
My fix was to drill the holes out slightly deeper to suit smallest plastic rawl plugs I had in the shed, these I cut to length to suit hole and araldited them in place, so far so good:thumb:
Mentioned this to my dealer and they are aware of problem apparently. Shame manufacturers are not required to call in and repair/modify what is something obviously not fit for purpose.:Angry:
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Nothing should have gone wrong, but it did
Yeah I was having a bit of a joke about it all, if you don't make light of your motorhome falling apart you might as well give the hobby up because it will drive you mad.
But its still a good piece of kit, does the job
All motorhomes are shoddy!
It's the industry standard!!!
If you want a well made van, find £150k and spend it on a Concorde or Niesmann + Bischoff!
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It's the dealers and their sales teams that go on the flash holidays we're just suckers for accepting the poor quality build standards. I have to agree that Hymers are built far better than any British motorhome even the bog standard ones are better.I am seriously thinking of selling it and giving up because it is doing my head in.
I don't spend time screwing my car back together after every trip, and it didn't cost anywhere near what the MH did. The money manufacturers expect you to lay out for your "hobby" and the shoddy goods/aftersales don't equate somehow.
I could have loads of flash holidays where all I have to do is turn up and someone will look after me, for the amount I paid for a wheeled shed. :Angry:
Have purchased from Alan Kerr, excellent after sales. BUSBY.
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