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[Jewellbags]

At some point in September or early October we will be making our way back (boo) from the Garda region and heading to brugges or maybe Gentt. Ideally looking for a non toll , hopefully motorway free route back which has interesting stops / pretty routes .

Are there any previous threads that give some ideas which I can look at and plot our stops ?

Thanks in anticipation

 

[Jewellbags]

Oh forget 7m coach class if that makes any difference

 

[royandsharont]

I go Garda to Prutz or Innsbruck Austria, Fern Pass to Germany, Fussen very nice to visit, then camping Christophos south of Ulm, then a stop along the way to Stuttgart, Karlsruhe, Manheim, Saarbrucken, then stop at Bitburg area or go to Luxembourg City to visit then into Belgium, stopping at Ypres or on the coast near Zeebrugge although I understand Ghent is worth a visit. Hope this help, hope I’ve got the spellings correct

Toll free if you make sure you avoid them in Austria but not motorway free.

 

[Jewellbags]

That’s great thank you very much

 

[cyberyacht]

Can you just not set your sat-nav to avoid motorways/tolls. That will then generally give you a mix of roads, some of which will be fast dual carriageways but many single carriageway ones. Choosing all minor roads will make the journey inordinately long. You still get to see nice towns/villages and scenery.

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[Jewellbags]

Can you just not set your sat-nav to avoid motorways/tolls. That will then generally give you a mix of roads, some of which will be fast dual carriageways but many single carriageway ones. Choosing all minor roads will make the journey inordinately long. You still get to see nice towns/villages and scenery.

Agreed and can do that but it was just to make the most of the trip scenery wise - shame sat nav a don’t a great view option

 

[Soycd]

If you have not been over the Grossglockner pass then that's well worth it.
There is a nice stelplatz at Bad Aibling

Wohnmobilplatz

www.therme-bad-aibling.de

There are plentiful places to stay as you head north. Only issue might be if you prefer campsites some may close at that time of year?
We are staying here in a few weeks
https://en.ccclv.lu/ in Luxembourg
We have stayed here in Brugge, it is an excellent campsite.

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[Jewellbags]

If you have not been over the Grossglockner pass then that's well worth it.
There is a nice stelplatz at Bad Aibling

Wohnmobilplatz

www.therme-bad-aibling.de

There are plentiful places to stay as you head north. Only issue might be if you prefer campsites some may close at that time of year?
We are staying here in a few weeks
https://en.ccclv.lu/ in Luxembourg
We have stayed here in Brugge, it is an excellent campsite.

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Thanks for this was hoping to cross the gross glocken pass not sure to do it southwards on the way down in mid September rather than wait for the return in October . Great tips thanks

 

[GAVLAD]

Garda to Innsbruck to Fussen onto Romantic Road and up. Take your pick for pretty stop overs as it’s nearly every town on that road

 

[Peter_Cooke]

Jewellbags: would it be possible for you to post your route down to Garda?

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[Jewellbags]

Excuse all the pinpoints but if you zoom in you should see a blue line from Calais with stops a,b,c etc . I’ll be working on it again next week as I’m going to change the route to turn east across the Alpenstresse and down over the gross glocken , returning via this map route and the Black Forest road hope the link below works

Trip South
https://maps.app.goo.gl/oBskmLtuz72hcVwC9?g_st=ic

 

[PORKSTER]

I came home one time up the left side of Como stopped 1 night on a feeder lake to Como. Sorry name escapes me. And just followed my nose. Best drive ever done. I know some was the grand tour route. Our next stop was on lake Bodencee on air next to large motorhome dealer. Then up to Calais and home

 

[Howard B]

We will be heading to Venice area for a few days in Sept heading down the Romantic Road, Insbruck/Brenner Pass, Dolomites etc.
Route back will be Dolomites, Brenner pass/ Insbruck keeping off the autoroutes, Fussen, Ulm and then to the Mosel for 7 days before heading back via Hook of Holland.

 

[Roby2008]

From Garda aim for the Plöcken pass - Lienz - Großglöckner - Kitzbuhl - Niednerdorf ( cheap diesel on the border) then Raubling - Bad Aibling, from there you have a few options for going up through Germany.

We live 6km from Bad Aibling and this is our usual route to and from when we are no in a hurry, incredibly scenic, you will have to pay a Maut/toll to get over the pass but there is no avoiding that.

 

[Jewellbags]

Many thanks all appreciated

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[suavecarve]

If you click the following links in my signature you will be able to "view whole map" which will give some indications (or not) along your route

Germany previous
Bavarian throunal
Belgium
Possibly the voie verte as well

 

[Jewellbags]

I came home one time up the left side of Como stopped 1 night on a feeder lake to Como. Sorry name escapes me. And just followed my nose. Best drive ever done. I know some was the grand tour route. Our next stop was on lake Bodencee on air next to large motorhome dealer. Then up to Calais and home

Lago di Mezzola?

 

[PORKSTER]

Lago di Mezzola?

Correct my memory is like a sieve. Nice little stop free at the time

 

[Jewellbags]

Good guess eh ? Saved in my google maps now thanks

 

[Folkranger]

If you have not been over the Grossglockner pass then that's well worth it.

Can you say why this is worth it as we will be looking for a way back up in the next few weeks. thanks.

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[Howard B]

Can you say why this is worth it as we will be looking for a way back up in the next few weeks. thanks.

Views are stunning. Check its open though, i have known it ti be closed in May & Sept due to snow.

 

[Roby2008]

Can you say why this is worth it as we will be looking for a way back up in the next few weeks. thanks.

If you like Stunning views, quiet roads and have time, then this is for you, take the 108 for a nice drive and the 107 (high alpine road) for the white knuckle drive.......as in my previous post I recommend: Plöcken pass - Lienz - Großglöckner (choose which route)- Kitzbuhl - Niednerdorf ( cheap diesel on the border) then Raubling ( then the Bad Aibling stelleplatz if req )and then the choice through Germany is yours.

 

[Roby2008]

Views are stunning. Check its open though, i have known it ti be closed in May & Sept due to snow.

It does happen, the signs will tell you open or closed before you climb so you will not get stuck, just take an alternative route, Nov-April are the winter tyre required months ....

 

[Folkranger]

If you like Stunning views, quiet roads and have time, then this is for you, take the 108 for a nice drive and the 107 (high alpine road) for the white knuckle drive.......as in my previous post I recommend: Plöcken pass - Lienz - Großglöckner (choose which route)- Kitzbuhl - Niednerdorf ( cheap diesel on the border) then Raubling ( then the Bad Aibling stelleplatz if req )and then the choice through Germany is yours.

Think I'll give the white knuckle option a miss. But quiet roads sound good. We came down through the Gotthard tunnel and basically suffered an eight hour traffic jam. Police were blocking the tunnels and only letting so many through at a time. We have the Swiss pass so don't mind using their roads.

 

[Folkranger]

I go Garda to Prutz or Innsbruck Austria, Fern Pass to Germany, Fussen very nice to visit, then camping Christophos south of Ulm, then a stop along the way to Stuttgart, Karlsruhe, Manheim, Saarbrucken, then stop at Bitburg area or go to Luxembourg City to visit then into Belgium, stopping at Ypres or on the coast near Zeebrugge although I understand Ghent is worth a visit. Hope this help, hope I’ve got the spellings correct

Toll free if you make sure you avoid them in Austria but not motorway free.

A few years back I crossed the border into Austria, not realising that I had to buy a vignette at the "dormant" border post. Got picked up at the first rest area. Cost something like 80 euro fine as I remember.

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[Folkranger]

If you have not been over the Grossglockner pass then that's well worth it.
There is a nice stelplatz at Bad Aibling

Wohnmobilplatz

www.therme-bad-aibling.de

There are plentiful places to stay as you head north. Only issue might be if you prefer campsites some may close at that time of year?
We are staying here in a few weeks
https://en.ccclv.lu/ in Luxembourg
We have stayed here in Brugge, it is an excellent campsite.

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Kockelscheur is a great site for Lux. City. We now prefer the small town charm of Deikirch with camping on the river.

 

[Howard B]

A few years back I crossed the border into Austria, not realising that I had to buy a vignette at the "dormant" border post. Got picked up at the first rest area. Cost something like 80 euro fine as I remember.

Only been checked once. Got wrists slapped as the sticker was in the top of the motorbike tank bag. No fine though.
Was telling mate when we bought the vignettes that we never get checked

 

[Folkranger]

Google is pointing us to go through St Moritz and Lichtenstein on what looks like a minor road route.

Any views on this?

 

[Soycd]

Can you say why this is worth it as we will be looking for a way back up in the next few weeks. thanks.

Same as the folk above!

 

[Folkranger]

Same as the folk above!

Yes I have read the thread and there are a couple of people who say it's worth it but not why. The only thing mentioned is a nice stelplatz.