No earth at electric socket

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  1. Dolly224

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    Hi we are in Granada. Spain and have no earth into the van. Tried changing polarity etc but still no earth. Is here anything to make it safer. Thanks Sue

     
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    with only a 2 pin connection I presume there can't be an earth, I have used them for years while abroad without thinking of any issues, along with millions of others, it surely cant be dangerous (y)
     
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    Check that the RCD or RCBO test button trips the supply
     
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    They are two pin but still have an earth contact
     
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    apologies in advance

    How do you know you have no earth?
     
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    Out of interest - How does "earthing" actually work when you are in a vehicle on 4 rubber wheels. I remember when I was young you didn't get a shock from our 'dodgy' washing machine if you were wearing wellingtons :)
     
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    You are earthed by the supply cable
     
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    Often you don't but some vans have an electrical system that alerts the absence of an earth.
    Personally I don't care as long as my RCD operates
     
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    You can use a plug in tester.
    Andy if the rcd works isn't that n indication that earth is present.
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    Wear Wellingtons when climbing into the MH and you might be fine too.:)
     
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    NO but it establishes that you are protected if it trips
     
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    Assuming you have no earth then it is safe - until something goes wrong. Difficult to advise, I would be happy with it as I know I have twin pole circuit breakers (assuming it trips as per Techno's post) and I would avoid climbing into the MH in bare feet, soaking wet!

    Might be better to move pitch if you can and if anyone on board has a dicky ticker then unplug now.
     
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    The vast majority of UK produced vans will have either an RCD or RCBO within the van. Still quite a lot of european vans don't have either, they only have a double pole switch and rely on the hook up point RCD/RCBO for protection. My van being French even though produced for a UK customer still had no RCD but I fitted one myself. It is relatively cheap and certainly easy to correct this.
     
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    good point by DBK, can you try a longer lead to another post

    we always carry 2 leads abroad and often seem to need them both
     
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    we don't have one on our German van, another job I keep forgetting to sort out, we have a sparky coming to our extension this week, will try to remember to get him to sort it (y)
     
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    If not I'll do it for you next meet about £30 all inclusive of RCD
     
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    I have an RCD and twin pole circuit breakers - so I should be fine? Even without wellies?
     
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    Yes
     
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    On the left complete with T test button is an RCD accompanied on the right by a double pole circuit breaker
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