Microsoft moving windows to a monthly subscription service? (1 Viewer)

[Gromett]

And for the average user, not interested. I also remember UNIX not to be very forgiving. Deleting.. Gone
Windows are you sure??

I may try mint, but I think I'll be hanging on to windows.

Deleting at the command prompt (Bash) = file gone.
From within the GUI it goes to the Rubish Bin same as any other GUI based OS.

 

[Gromett]

Us old Unix Sysadmin bods are still snobs and diss Linux

Yup. Even though we are a polished version of Unix with much in common there is still that rivalry.

But to be honest with the arrival of systemd, you old neckbeards have some reason to mock now

 

[Yorick]

Yup. Even though we are a polished version of Unix with much in common there is still that rivalry.

But to be honest with the arrival of systemd, you old neckbeards have some reason to mock now

When Linux became available to the masses, the bosses started to understand it and we couldn't bullshit them as much.
So I changed my speciality to a DBA, where the bosses truly had no idea

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[Puddleduck]

I had the only one. We all had log tables and in a recent Big Clear Out I could not bring myself to throw out my book of 5 figure log tables

Still got mine as well

 

[normanandsue]

Seeing as Windows has just 'gobbled' 7gb of my internet today as it did a 'hidden' update on my laptop which it should NOT have done I am not a happy bunny ... we've only got 4gb left to us 6 days until it 'rolls over' to the new month's 40gb allowance.

Realistically are there any issues with running Linux as opposed to Microsoft stuff? What happens to drivers etc?

Can you not set your updates to be done only when on WiFi?

 

[Doctor Dave]

Bring back BBC BASIC I say!

Dave

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[Langtoftlad]

So for this non techie...

If I download Linux Mint, and stick it onto a USB drive - how can I tell my pc to boot up from that, rather than start in windows ???

And where's the best place to download Linux Mint from?
And which version, for a beginner, there appears to be a lot of flavours .

 

[nicholsong]

In about 1962 I used to programme an IBM1401 using punched cards and tapes in an air-conditioned, temperature-controlled room. I got quite good marks on my programming course.

Reading this thread I understood about 5% of what wa written.

I am not sure if there has been progress if someone like myself, who has also mastered the operation of aircraft computers, cannot follow this discussion.

KISS comes to mind.

Geoff

 

[SpeedyDux]

Me too. I still have an extra long version, an Otis-King cylindrical one. Now, if only I could remember how to drive it.

J

Ha! Bet you were the geekiest swot in the school!

I only had an ordinary linear slide rule. Since then I have inherited several that my Engineer dad owned. Can't remember how to use them.

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[Gromett]

So for this non techie...

If I download Linux Mint, and stick it onto a USB drive - how can I tell my pc to boot up from that, rather than start in windows ???.

You do this from the Bios/Setup. One of the options in there sets the boot order.

And where's the best place to download Linux Mint from?.

From the official linux mint download page.
https://linuxmint.com/download.php

And which version, for a beginner, there appears to be a lot of flavours .

Most people go for Cinamon. It is great. I however prefer the XFCE version as it is lighter weight.

HOWEVER. You can install the Cinnamon version, then install XFCE using the package manager and select XFCE from the login page.

 

[hilldweller]

So for this non techie...

If I download Linux Mint, and stick it onto a USB drive - how can I tell my pc to boot up from that, rather than start in windows ???.

You need to be quick !

When your PC boots it should display something like "F2 for Setup", might be "Del for Setup". It's gone in a blink but you should be prepared second time.

F2 opens a Setup screen and you should see BOOT and BOOT Order. You need to tell it "Boot from USB". The find "Save and Exit". Next time you boot, if there is a USB stick in it will use it, if not it will continue to the hard drive as usual.

 

[Deleted member 29692]

Can you not set your updates to be done only when on WiFi?

If you're using a data sim in a MiFi then any device you connect to it - phone, tablet, laptop etc - thinks it's on real WiFi, because that's how it's connected to the MiFi, and behaves accordingly.

That's the big downfall of using a MiFi that many people aren't aware of. Mifi and Wifi are not even close to being the same thing.

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[Gellyneck]

Seeing as Windows has just 'gobbled' 7gb of my internet today as it did a 'hidden' update on my laptop which it should NOT have done I am not a happy bunny ... we've only got 4gb left to us 6 days until it 'rolls over' to the new month's 40gb allowance.

Realistically are there any issues with running Linux as opposed to Microsoft stuff? What happens to drivers etc?

Have you got your mifi set-up as a Metered Connection in Settings (assuming Windows 10)?

 

[Yorick]

I made this into an alias in .bashrc and with a 2 character command I can run it nice and easy.

find /var/www/vhosts/*/httpdocs/*/.htaccess -print | xargs grep -l "aspseek" | xargs -L1 dirname | tr n' 0' | xargs -0 -I {} mv {} /root/hack

So Power and ease.

I understood that 100%

I missed the power of shell commands when having to use Windows (spit) based sytems

 

[emjaiuk]

I've installed Mint19, Cinnamon, onto an old Vista PC. I need to leave Vista there, even though it keeps falling over until I sort out the many many files on this PC I need to keep. Using Mint defaults, it went perfectly as far as I can see. However, I can't see any of the original PC files from within mint. Any simple solutions please? I've tried to add the ntfs * but I'm told I don't have the authority to do so. Shades od Windows Admin requirement

Malcolm

* Cant remember the extension

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[Gellyneck]

Currently in Mint 19 Cinnamon on a tri-boot system (Mint 19, Mint 18.3 and Windows 7).
Installations are split over two 1Tb hard discs with Windows 7 and a data partition on one and Mint 18.3 and 19 on the other.
In "Files" in both versions of Mint I can see the separate partitions on both discs however, from memory, can't see \ read in Windows 7, unsurprisingly.
Windows 7 drive is formatted in NTFS with the Linux drive formatted in EXT4.
Does the grub bootloader screen appear at start-up for you to select either Mint or Windows or does it just boot straight into Mint?

 

[Gromett]

I've installed Mint19, Cinnamon, onto an old Vista PC. I need to leave Vista there, even though it keeps falling over until I sort out the many many files on this PC I need to keep. Using Mint defaults, it went perfectly as far as I can see. However, I can't see any of the original PC files from within mint. Any simple solutions please? I've tried to add the ntfs * but I'm told I don't have the authority to do so. Shades od Windows Admin requirement

Malcolm

* Cant remember the extension

NFTS partitions should be readable by default under linux mint. They are just not writable unless you do some twiddling. This is a safety feature because you can delete system files etc.

 

[hilldweller]

However, I can't see any of the original PC files

Might be the old drive/partition is not mounted, Linux does not mount all drives it sees.

On my desktop I have COMPUTER. Double click this and I see all attached drives. I double click the old Widows drive, it mounts it and I have full access.

Next time I boot I have to do the same to read these drives. There must be a magic incantation could be inserted into the boot files but I've not bothered to find out.

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[Yorick]

They are just not writable unless you do some twiddling. .

Is that a technical term?

 

[Gromett]

There must be a magic incantation could be inserted into the boot files but I've not bothered to find out.

Go into accessories disks.
Click on the partition
click on the cog icon and select mount options

Or you can do what I do and sudo to root then edit the fstab directly

 

[Gromett]

Is that a technical term?

Yes

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[Yorick]

Yes

RTFM.

 

[emjaiuk]

Might be the old drive/partition is not mounted, Linux does not mount all drives it sees.

On my desktop I have COMPUTER. Double click this and I see all attached drives. I double click the old Widows drive, it mounts it and I have full access.

Next time I boot I have to do the same to read these drives. There must be a magic incantation could be inserted into the boot files but I've not bothered to find out.

I thought I'd tried that, but it worked a treat. Thanks Brian

Malcolm

 

[AlisonEM]

Apparently some of the EL-ites are now struggling to pay their electricity bills but they just won't give up, will they? Charge us for Windows(?!?!) on top of all the other stealth taxes that have crept up on us over the years, e.g. TV licence - BBC now funded by EU for propaganda reasons but they haven't done away with the licence fee so where does all that money go?!?!? I can assure you it does not go to the BBC!!! Capita plc is a private corporation... One wonders!

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[Yorick]

Blimey. Paranoia is still alive and well

 

[2657]

You do this from the Bios/Setup. One of the options in there sets the boot order.

Lost me already

Tell me which key to press

 

[AlisonEM]

I call it theft under deception!

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[Yorick]

I call it theft under deception!

I'm interested as to which bit is theft ?

 

[AlisonEM]

The BBC licence fee because it is not going to the BBC - they don't need it so where is it going and why are Brits, loyal and patriotic, still being asked to pay it?

 

[Minxy]

Can you not set your updates to be done only when on WiFi?

I don't do updates to Windows ... there're 'fat' enough already! Seriously though, I don't have access to wifi, just my own mobile broadband via my MIFI, so that's the only way to get updates if I want them.

Have you got your mifi set-up as a Metered Connection in Settings (assuming Windows 10)?

I investigated and despite my laptop being set NOT to do any downloads at anytime ... NEVER ... the 'new to us' MIFI which I'd just started to use was able to over-rule everything! It didn't happen on the first day I used the 'new' MIFI though which is why it was confusing as to what was the problem but I finally managed to track it down and sort the little beggar out! Thank goodness the previous owner didn't change the standard passwords on the unit!

So a warning to all ... IF you start to us a new MIFI make sure it is set to 'metered' as it can still do it even if everything else is set not to.

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