Microsoft moving windows to a monthly subscription service?

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  1. Gromett

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    And I'll bet 95% on here could not tell Linux Mint from windows. It really is soooooo easy to live with and never craps on you with upgrades every few days. Just a discrete Icon, bottom right, when optional program upgrades are available. Once selected these upgrades take place in the background and you can't tell they are happening.

    Masses and masses of quality software is available FOC. In fact I don't recall ever seeing paid for software though there must be some out there. I did donate to Linux mint and got a nice Thank You.
     
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    You can,t compare windows with linux mint it does better than it says on the tin. LOVE IT.
     
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    better get John fettling my laptop then , he runs both linux and windows I only have windows.
     
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    Sound like Microsoft are going down the Chrimecast model, albeit with more software installed locally and charging for the software rental.
     
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    Seeing as Windows has just 'gobbled' 7gb of my internet today as it did a 'hidden' update on my laptop which it should NOT have done I am not a happy bunny ... we've only got 4gb left to us 6 days until it 'rolls over' to the new month's 40gb allowance. :mad:

    Realistically are there any issues with running Linux as opposed to Microsoft stuff? What happens to drivers etc?
     
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    How do you get Linux, just download it?
     
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    As the masses migrate so will the crooks untill linux requires daily bloated upgrades to combat the hackers
    Be carfull what u wish for
    Its only as good as it is due to the small audiance it has
     
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    Depends on what you use the laptop for.
    If it's standard day to day stuff generally no issues -
    • web browsing - Firefox
    • office tasks (Word \ Excel \ etc) - LibreOffice
    • playing media - VLC
    however if it's -
    • gaming
    • dedicated software programs, eg Garmin BaseCamp, etc
    you'll struggle.

    You can download Linux Mint (Cinnamon version is probably closest in terms of layout to Windows) from here - https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=3597

    Once you've downloaded the iso you can copy it to a usb \ dvd and run it as in a live environment from there without impacting your Windows installation. Won't be as fast as when you install it but it let's you get a flavour of what's there and what you can do with it.
    https://linuxmint-installation-guide.readthedocs.io/en/latest/boot.html
    https://www.zdnet.com/article/how-to-install-linux-mint-on-your-windows-pc/
    If your hard disc is large enough you can even dual boot your laptop which gives you both Mint and Windows on it!
     
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    You’re probably right but it’s not doing too bad. We all use Linux every day, you used it when you wrote the above. :) Linux is already on one of the largest user bases as it’s on every Android phone and tablet in the world, a bigger audience than any other.
     
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    It won't get any more bloated than it already is. The way it does updates is TOTALLY different to windows.
    You get a little icon like this in your task bar at the bottom right.

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    When you are ready to update you click it and get this screen.

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    You then click the update button, and off it goes to update whatever needs updating...
    While it is updating you can carry on with your work but it is usually so quick you are done in a minute or less.
    It NEVER reboots your system.
    It NEVER makes you wait to shutdown your system
    It NEVER makes you wait on bootup.

    All updates for all software are done this way from one central location...

    For instance if you don't use your computer for a month then come back to it. Linux won't ask you to install updates, Then each software program you open asks you to update separately.
    Linux installs all software from the same repository as the core OS except a few which will have their own repository but are also updated by the same system.

    Linux updates are much smaller because it does things totally differently and update each component of the OS separetly and can restart the related service without a reboot.

    When you install new hardware you don't need to reboot, ALL drivers are built into the OS so no need to scrabble to driver disks or search the internet for drivers.
    The only time you need to reboot is when you have to update the kernel or install certain graphics cards..

    As for linux being a target for hackers. It already is. It is the most installed OS on the planet..
    It is on everything from mobile phones, tablets, set top boxes for TV's, routers, lots of internet connected gadgets................. All the way up to every single one of the top 500 super computers.
    It is at Cern, at IBM, Microsoft, Google, Amazon and even the International space station...

    The one and only place it doesn't get used a lot is the home computer desktop...

    Whilst, Linux Mint Cinnamon is great, I personally prefer the XFCE edition..
     
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    I think a trip to jims,and a few beers for my old mate,@Gromett ,I'll bring the beers,on its way:whistle:
     
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    We never used to pay for MHFun either, if Linux ever becomes popular with the home user then you will also have to pay for the pleasure....At this time the masses prefer Windows, I cant see this changing in the foreseeable future, monthly payments or not....(y)
     
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    I don't know about the masses preferring windows, for most of us it is the one most available and changing to other systems is beyond our capabilities, taken me long enough to fathom part of windows out.:)
     
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    Oh well, sooner or later I'm going to have to ditch MS-DOS 5. :rolleyes:
     
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    Drivers, what are drivers ? Everything just seems to work.

    It depends. If all you do is internet browsing and emails no problem. I use firefox and thunderbird as I did on windows. Several other browsers and mail are available.

    But and specialist windows programs, like film editors, and you could have problems. I drop back to windows 7 to do the vary rare bit of video editing because I've not come to terms with the Linux ones. The still image editor is good - Gimp.

    PC games are off, of course. The usual chess, backgammon, cards are all available.

    I miss Irfanview, a classic sadly missing.

    It is easy to buy a Linux DVD and boot off the DVD and try it without disturbing windows. £2.
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_...ux+mint+dvd.TRS0&_nkw=linux+mint+dvd&_sacat=0

    This computer has windows and Linux, boots direct to Linux unless I hit a key to boot windows for some of my old software, like the film editor and some special compilers.
     
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    Boot??.....I just switch mine on:)
     
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    I’m tempted to boot my computer. Regularly :D2
     
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    Ahhhhh, the bliss of IOS! :D :whistle:
     
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