LPG FILLER POINT

[STEVE4SONN]

Hi.
As in my introduction post only yesterday I am brand new to forums so navigating and where to post things is strange.
I am in the middle of a van conversion and I want throw out a few questions to all you experienced people..
Which side of the van is best to have the LPG filler point, this is my next job and I think everyone may think it a daft question but most of you will have had experienced the good and bad so please advise me..

 

[GJH]

We had Alugas bottles fitted in the gas locker and the logical place to fit the filler point was in the wall adjacent to the locker door.
If you are fitting an underslung tank, rather than bottles in an existing locker, I would favour the same side as the diesel filler. That way you aren't changing sides if you need to fill up with both (doesn't happen to us often but it has in the past).

 

[Shrimp]

Our Hymer has the gas locker on the offside and the Diesel on the nearside so if we had to fill both (has happened in the past) we go in fill one then (you can’t usually reverse as cars behind) exit and start again for the other!

 

[glenn2926]

Hi.
As in my introduction post only yesterday I am brand new to forums so navigating and where to post things is strange.
I am in the middle of a van conversion and I want throw out a few questions to all you experienced people..
Which side of the van is best to have the LPG filler point, this is my next job and I think everyone may think it a daft question but most of you will have had experienced the good and bad so please advise me..

We have it on the Same side as the diesel filler cap this way I can fill both without moving the van.

 

[STEVE4SONN]

We had Alugas bottles fitted in the gas locker and the logical place to fit the filler point was in the wall adjacent to the locker door.
If you are fitting an underslung tank, rather than bottles in an existing locker, I would favour the same side as the diesel filler. That way you aren't changing sides if you need to fill up with both (doesn't happen to us often but it has in the past).

Thank you kindly, see the point.
Yes it is an underslung cylinder and your suggestion of putting it on the same side as the diesel filler cap makes perfect sense.
Regards

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[STEVE4SONN]

We have it on the Same side as the diesel filler cap this way I can fill both without moving the van.

Thank you and a very valid answer.. makes alot of sense.
Regards

 

[STEVE4SONN]

Our Hymer has the gas locker on the offside and the Diesel on the nearside so if we had to fill both (has happened in the past) we go in fill one then (you can’t usually reverse as cars behind) exit and start again for the other!

Glad I joined this forum last night as already so many answers to my questions, thank you kindly.
Your answer is very good and yeah best to put it on the same side as the diesel filler cap..
Regards

 

[irnbru]

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You already know how valuable the group is so it will be money well spent

 

[JockandRita]

STEVE4SONN.

On our old Hymer with an underslung bulk tank, the filler was on the same side as the diesel filler. Easy peasy.

On our current MH with refillable cylinders, the filler is on the opposite side to the diesel filler, so a little bit more planning is required when refuelling.

Get yourself a year's subs, and you won't regret it.

Good luck with the build.

Jock.

 

[stewartwebr]

Given you are converting yourself I would suggest for convenience you fit a filling point on both sides. I have had an additional point fitted to the last few vans. It gives far more flexibility and convenience. Given you have the skill set to do yourself the parts are not significantly expensive in terms of the flexibility it offers, especially as we start to see fewer and fewer filling options. Having both has been a god send a number of times recently.

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[Gaston aires]

If possible fit the LPG point the same side as the diesel filler.
We have this set up and it’s well worth it.
Phil upmetank

 

[Offagain]

We have it on the Same side as the diesel filler cap this way I can fill both without moving the van.

Except often abroad the lpg filling point is nowhere near the diesel pumps.

STEVE4SONN we have 2 refillable - Gaslow - bottles and have a filling point in the skirt near the locker. This makes it look as if we’re filling up a tank as some countries “don't allow” sale of lpg for domestic use, just for propulsion. In reality we’ve only ever been refused once.

 

[glenn2926]

Except often abroad the lpg filling point is nowhere near the diesel pumps.

STEVE4SONN we have 2 refillable - Gaslow - bottles and have a filling point in the skirt near the locker. This makes it look as if we’re filling up a tank as some countries “don't allow” sale of lpg for domestic use, just for propulsion. In reality we’ve only ever been refused once.

Yeah well we can’t cater for every eventuality can we. I guess there’s always one will find a fault.

 

[Landy Andy]

Both fillers same side.

 

[Bobby-gg]

Got my filler fitted to my towbar, so I can fill from either side, and, no extra cutting into the side of the van

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[JockandRita]

Yeah well we can’t cater for every eventuality can we. I guess there’s always one will find a fault.

Glenn, Offagain Anthea wasn't finding fault, she was merely pointing out that unlike here in the UK where Autogas is more often than not on the same aisle as other fuel pumps, abroad they can be totally separate.
I too have experienced abroad, where the Autogas pump is on it's own, away from the other pumps. I couldn't turn round at one such pump in France, so going against the grain a bit, I had to sling the dispenser under the MH, so as to reach my filler point. Judging by the state of the dispenser, it appears it was a common practise.

Cheers,

Jock.

 

[glenn2926]

Aye, I get where she was coming from and have filled in other countries where the LPG pump is quite remote from diesel pumps.
To me though and probably most others it was quite obvious having the LPG filler on the same side as the diesel filler is only useful where the pumps are adjacent.

 

[mitzimad]

if possible keep the filler outside the van ive seen the small square fillers both mounted under the rear bumper and in the mouldins below the lights

 

[tonyidle]

Aye, I get where she was coming from and have filled in other countries where the LPG pump is quite remote from diesel pumps.
To me though and probably most others it was quite obvious having the LPG filler on the same side as the diesel filler is only useful where the pumps are adjacent.

There are LPG pumps well separated from the rest in the UK too.

 

[Minxy]

if possible keep the filler outside the van ive seen the small square fillers both mounted under the rear bumper and in the mouldins below the lights

I was going to suggest using the small square filler too especially on a van conversion as it's much easier than trying to find a suitable place for the big round one, here are photos of where I put the square one in our previous PVCs, both rear nearside:

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[RichardB]

Same site as the diesel cap so you can fill both without moving

 

[glenn2926]

Same site as the diesel cap so you can fill both without moving

Don’t bother, they’ll be queuing up to tell you sometimes the LPG pump is remote from the other pumps.

 

[Basildog]

I was going to suggest using the small square filler too especially on a van conversion as it's much easier than trying to find a suitable place for the big round one, here are photos of where I put the square one in our previous PVCs, both rear nearside:

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Directly into the crash zone so not such a good idea .
Really not good practice .

 

[cmcardle75]

Directly into the crash zone so not such a good idea .
Really not good practice .

The filler pipework isn't particularly crash critical. The pipes hold only a tiny amount of gas and are isolated at the tank from its contents. The outlet pipework is much more important, especially if a non-electric isolation valve is used, as few drivers will bother to turn off a manual valve every time they move.

 

[eddie]

I have one both sides to make filling easy

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[Basildog]

The filler pipework isn't particularly crash critical. The pipes hold only a tiny amount of gas and are isolated at the tank from its contents. The outlet pipework is much more important, especially if a non-electric isolation valve is used, as few drivers will bother to turn off a manual valve every time they move.

Not allowed in the automotive industry, and yes the NRV should work but they are known to fail !

 

[Russell's Dad]

I was going to suggest using the small square filler too especially on a van conversion as it's much easier than trying to find a suitable place for the big round one, here are photos of where I put the square one in our previous PVCs, both rear nearside:

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Same as mine, pipework goes into the vents in the gas locker, wrapped in bit of garden hose to prevent chaffing. Negligible or no gas or pressure in filler pipes so I am happy it is safe

 

[heppy1952]

Got my filler fitted to my towbar, so I can fill from either side, and, no extra cutting into the side of the van

Picture of that would be helpful please.

 

[Puddleduck]

Our Hymer has the gas locker on the offside and the Diesel on the nearside so if we had to fill both (has happened in the past) we go in fill one then (you can’t usually reverse as cars behind) exit and start again for the other!

Same as ours but generally we don't fill with diesel and gas at the same places ....... Gas from Johnstons Oil in Newtown St Boswells (off the A68, take the north exit from the A68 and then the second left, LPG is the other side of the office) or Autogas 2000 near Thirsk (neither sell diesel).

If we do need both in the way home from "south" then Penny Petroleum near Powburn A697 - the LPG pump is well away from the diesel pumps so it's a question of moving the van. I just go in and explain what we are doing and they are more than happy.

 

[STEVE4SONN]

Directly into the crash zone so not such a good idea .
Really not good practice .

But the way people drive these days isn't anywhere on the van a crash Zone, I am amazed on how bad the drivers are getting in the UK and I spend 65% of my working week in a vehicle these days.
But it is a valid point, the rear end is possibly the more frequently hit area.
However I think that Minxy-Girl did do a real good job of that filler cap installation, very neat & tidy.