lpg conversion/insurance

[kwhkwh@hotmail]

hi all hope your all keeping safe and not too frustrated I am a newish member and been using the spare time to upgrade the van ive bought an lpg conversion kit kit to fit (I have done one before on a landrover) but concerned about my insurance im with caravanguard and they don't seem to mind as long as I inform them what do you guys think? thanks....kev

 

[LARRY99]

Lpg engine conversions should normally be done only by approved converters
they then register the conversion on a uk wide website
this Then is accessed by the insurance company’s and the dvla
your vehicle log book will then be updated to duel fuel

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www.drivelpg.co.uk

 

[olley]

It won't be updated its only dual fuel if its done by the manufacturer at first registration. That's what they told me when I sent mine in to have it changed.

 

[kwhkwh@hotmail]

thanks for your reply Larry I have done a bit of research and looked at gov .co.uk it seems if it passes an mot its acceptable as an engineer report ?

 

[LARRY99]

It won't be updated its only dual fuel if its done by the manufacturer at first registration. That's what they told me when I sent mine in to have it changed.

mine was,,,,2006 registration. Converted 2013,,,,



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[kwhkwh@hotmail]

I read a long reputable article that a certain lpg fitting company could give certificates but these are not recognised by insurance companies and only a certified engineers report or a new MOT will do

 

[LARRY99]

https://tinleytech.co.uk. lots of info. What engine are you converting?

 

[kwhkwh@hotmail]

That's the site its a 1984 Talbot express 1995 petrol carb

 

[LARRY99]

Good luck,,, mines a v10 injected

 

[dunnah01]

I've done a three DIY in the past and all I needed for insurance was a COP II certificate from an inspection. Simple to achieve if you follow installation guidance from many online resources. I've not done a conversion for quite a few years but not sure much has changed over the past few years.
Driven over 200k on the converted cars and if I still did the miles in a petrol car it would be a no brainer conversion. Halved my fuel costs, kept the engine increadinbly clean and the later closed loop systems are brilliant.

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[olley]

mine was,,,,2006 registration. Converted 2013,,,,


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Apologies perhaps things have changed, mine was converted in 06 I sent the logbook in with a letter it can back unchanged, I phoned and they said only on first registration.

 

[tonyidle]

That's the site its a 1984 Talbot express 1995 petrol carb

I did one of those (my first mh). It turns a pretty gutless engine into an extremely gutless engine albeit with a cheaper fuel. With the benefit of hindsight I wouldn't bother. By the time you have saved the cost of even DiY conversion you'll be thinking about changing your mh. Don't ask how I came to that conclusion . I did my own, got a certificate from an approved converter, and had no issue with my insurer.

 

[kwhkwh@hotmail]

Thanks Dunnah01 this will be my second convervsion the first one I did was a landrover v8 twin carb bought the kit off ebay new from Manchester picked it up paid £500 cash read the instructions day and half later woooo! ran great change over to gas ran poor so set gas up on carb ran great back to gas ran bad so called mobiletune after testing he said one of the carbs was done £500 quid for a reconditioned carb so I sold the car this one should be easy doughnut tank fitted in engine bay under spare wheel away from the exaust along with everything else let you know

 

[Geo]

I can,t imagine why a new mot test would satisfy the Insurers. 9 out of 10 wouldent know how to test lpg emissions.
The few that do, would have to be told your running on gas or they would simply test as a petrol.
If it passes the emissions it passes the test no comment would be made on the quality of installation

 

[dunnah01]

Just make sure that you have a blow back relief valve if you're fitting a mixer based system

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[kwhkwh@hotmail]

hi dunnah01 where does the blow back valve fit is it like a non return valve

 

[dunnah01]

hi dunnah01 where does the blow back valve fit is it like a non return valve

It fits into the inlet manifold somewhere convenient. A dose of LPG can remain in the inlet between the mixer and the inlet valve after the engine has stopped. When you restart the engine this dose can be ignited and blow back through the inlet side and of there is no release valve it has been known to break plastic inlet pipes and there's even rumours that paper air filters have been set alight. I must add that I never experienced anything like this on my 100k miles Alfa GTV mixer conversion so not that common.

 

[kwhkwh@hotmail]

hi all I have been thinking of fitting a toroidal tank under the seating area in the van behind the passenger seat securely bolted to pass the 30G test whats every ones thoughts?

 

[peterc10]

hi all I have been thinking of fitting a toroidal tank under the seating area in the van behind the passenger seat securely bolted to pass the 30G test whats every ones thoughts?

LPG tanks or cylinders should be outside the habitation area or in sealed enclosure with a drop out at the bottom to vent any escaping gas.

 

[dunnah01]

The toroidal tanks are meant to fit in a car wheel well and have an enclosure around the valve assembly which needs to be vented to the outside. I'm not sure if it is necessary to have the actual tank outside in a motorhome rather than just the vent required in a car.

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[eddie]

The last three RV’s I have bought have had an LPG conversion prior to buying and vehicle registration and that’s 2019, 2014 and 2010 from memory

Not mentioned on the MOT test at all

 

[eddie]

mine was,,,,2006 registration. Converted 2013,,,,


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Gasoline lol It’s what the Yanks call it

 

[John Liput]

hi all hope your all keeping safe and not too frustrated I am a newish member and been using the spare time to upgrade the van ive bought an lpg conversion kit kit to fit (I have done one before on a landrover) but concerned about my insurance im with caravanguard and they don't seem to mind as long as I inform them what do you guys think? thanks....kev

Dont forget you cant go through the euro tunnel with lpg converted vehicle