London LEZ scare

[Odd-no-more]

I had to go to London yesterday, not worried about the Low emission zone ad the MO HO is compliant. But I had a shock when I passed a sign on the Thames embankment " low emission zone 1" I'm not sure if my 14 year old van is ok here. I looked it up when I got home. It doesn't start until April next year. I don't go to London often and so I have no idea where the zones are. I passed the sign as I drove along the embankment so it would have been very difficult to turn around. Anyone going to London next year will have to be very careful.

 

[mitzimad]

not sure what they class as zone one but ulez is already in operation within the current congestion zone

 

[Odd-no-more]

Not until April next year

 

[bobandjanie]

Our old motorhome is not compliant 2012 euro 5 3500kg £12.50 a day.
Plus the congestion charge if in the week.
I would say our Spanish van would be OK 2017 euro 6 but we don't want to go there anyway. Bob.

 

[Badknee]

Thanks for the heads up, another reason not to go.

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[Odd-no-more]

The bad news is my daughter's car is non compliant, and she lives 100mt inside the north circular

 

[gus-lopez]

I would say our Spanish van would be OK 2017 euro 6 but we don't want to go there anyway. Bob.

Don't foreget that being foreign even if it complies which it does, it has to be registered .Worth doing as it is basically anything inside the M25

The bad news is my daughter's car is non compliant, and she lives 100mt inside the north circular

For the Ulez I assume ?

 

[Odd-no-more]

From.2021

 

[scotzsue]

will need to check this, son not in Lndon, but is within the M25. what happens if road is closed and diversion wants to take you through the zone?

 

[Ivory55]

will need to check this, son not in Lndon, but is within the M25. what happens if road is closed and diversion wants to take you through the zone?

Sod’s law says if there is money involved you’re going to be on the losing side.

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[gus-lopez]

will need to check this, son not in Lndon, but is within the M25. what happens if road is closed and diversion wants to take you through the zone?

You cannot go . If directed to by say a Policemen then I would want it in writing or prefer to be arrested as you will receive a fine .
Say the Dartford crossing is shut & you are not compliant. The only way is to go the opposite way around the M25.

 

[nicholsong]

The bad news is my daughter's car is non compliant, and she lives 100mt inside the north circular

She is nowhere near the ULEZ, which is very Central London, although within the LEZ, but if petrol or diesel under 3,5t she has no problem.

Read the Tfl website.

 

[Viennese]

The bad news is my daughter's car is non compliant, and she lives 100mt inside the north circular

Treat her to a new car??

 

[gus-lopez]

She is nowhere near the ULEZ, which is very Central London, although within the LEZ, but if petrol or diesel under 3,5t she has no problem.

Read the Tfl website.

Yes but it is being extended to the North & South circular roads in 2021 when the LeZ emissions will also change.

 

[nicholsong]

Yes but it is being extended to the North & South circular roads in 2021 when the LeZ emissions will also change.

Not the ULEZ ?

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[Cheshirecat57]

I am compliant, but won’t be going anywhere near London ( unless I am lost)

 

[Allanm]

We have a few friends in London and visit now and again, but with no plans to go into London or its LEZ for while unless the Dartford crossing is closed when we travel up to Suffolk a few times a year, I thought I would apply. ( French reg van so need to send an application)
I got my registration back in a few days, now fully compliant but it seems when the ULEZ comes into force, I will have to reapply if I want to go there.

 

[PeteH]

The usual thieving continues then?. At least Dick Turpin Wore a Mask!

 

[martin2603]

After October 2020 within the North and South Circular vehicles over 3.5 ton will need to be Euro 6. When the LEZ was first implemented it cost me 12thousand pounds to upgrade 2 HGV s . Talk now is of £12k to upgrade a Euro 5 to Euro 6 with new ‘can’ For ONE Truck!!!!!!
Is someone taking the p?

 

[Ivory55]

After October 2020 within the North and South Circular vehicles over 3.5 ton will need to be Euro 6. When the LEZ was first implemented it cost me 12thousand pounds to upgrade 2 HGV s . Talk now is of £12k to upgrade a Euro 5 to Euro 6 with new ‘can’ For ONE Truck!!!!!!
Is someone taking the p?

I know a small firm that runs to erith, not all the time and they are wondering if to give up that work or buy new trucks.

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[gus-lopez]

Not the ULEZ ?

Yes.
Even though the ULEZ hasn't started yet they emailed me a while back that " 53% of those who were surveyed( that included me who voted against) agreed that the ULEZ should be extended ".So from =ctober 2021 it goes out as far as the north & south circulars-

ULEZ is coming
To help improve air quality, an Ultra Low Emission Zone (ULEZ) will be in place in central London from 8 April 2019. Most vehicles including cars and vans will need to meet new, tighter exhaust emission standards (ULEZ standards) or pay a daily charge to travel within the area of the ULEZ.

From 25 October 2021, the ULEZ area will be expanded to include the inner London area bounded by the .

https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ultra-low-emission-zone

from the same date the existing LEZ emissions will get stricter.

When I asled TFl " 53% of what amount" I still haven't hada reply ? Funny that . Perhaps it needs an FOI ?

 

[mitzimad]

The bad news is my daughter's car is non compliant, and she lives 100mt inside the north circular

weve got two non compliant vehicles and sounds like similar distance inside

 

[mitzimad]

Not until April next year View attachment 268879 View attachment 268879

i actually called the T charge at present and applies to the present congestion zone so you have to pay twice next year the t charge goes and it becomes the ulez which will go out to the north and south circulars

 

[westhamman]

So, if I can afford the daily charge, its alright to pollute and alledgedly kill people with my fumes. Kill people with the car i was encouraged to purchase to save the planet, diesal being better than petrol. I would therefore guess I might be wrong, if an mp drives his old diesal to parliament he would claim allowances to pay the charge, I realise Mayor Khan is the responsible he Im sure would claim his allowances too.

 

[peterc10]

I had to go to London yesterday, not worried about the Low emission zone ad the MO HO is compliant. But I had a shock when I passed a sign on the Thames embankment " low emission zone 1" I'm not sure if my 14 year old van is ok here. I looked it up when I got home. It doesn't start until April next year. I don't go to London often and so I have no idea where the zones are. I passed the sign as I drove along the embankment so it would have been very difficult to turn around. Anyone going to London next year will have to be very careful.

As I understand it the ULEZ zone covers the same are as the congestion charge zone. So you may have to pay the congestion charge.

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[mitzimad]

its social cleansing they need to force low income families out so they can redevelop everything for money
its not going to effect those who change their car every three years or companies that have new vans every three years the rich will happily pay 12.50 a day to bring their 5 year old range rover in but the poorer people often with families who run a 5 year old previa diesel will be stung

 

[PeteH]

All to-gether now--- "The rich get rich and the poor get poorer". And yet these same people STILL vote like turkey`s for christmas.

 

[Mr Chrysalis]

Just checked ours. The reg plate checker says “no charge for both LEZ and ULEZ. The text in the general part of the ULEZ website says anything worse than Euro 6 has to pay, but ours is Euro 5

 

[gus-lopez]

So, if I can afford the daily charge, its alright to pollute and alledgedly kill people with my fumes. Kill people with the car i was encouraged to purchase to save the planet, diesal being better than petrol.

Exactly it should be comply or nothing. Otherwise it shows it for the tax that it is. Same as allowing carbon credits to be bought/sold.

As I understand it the ULEZ zone covers the same are as the congestion charge zone. So you may have to pay the congestion charge.

At the start it will then ectends to N & S circulars

the rich will happily pay 12.50 a day to bring their 5 year old range rover

The same as they will pay£60 to drive in the bus lane.

 

[Odd-no-more]

She is nowhere near the ULEZ, which is very Central London, although within the LEZ, but if petrol or diesel under 3,5t she has no problem.

Read the Tfl website.

In 2021 the ulez is being extended to the area within the North and south circular roads. Laura is just inside and her diesel car will not comply

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