Kwik Fit - Take it or leave it...... (1 Viewer)

[Bailey58]

You should state that you think that you think they're unsafe in your sales pitch. How would you feel if they had an accident first day?

You state openly on a public forum that you think they're unsafe, but quite happy to sell to some unsuspecting victim

You're putting words in my mouth. I never said they were unsafe, I said I'm of the opinion, and it's only an opinion, that I prefer to change mine after about five years. Like supermarket diesel, there are those who think it's crap and those who would argue differently. There are those who are of the opinion that McAfee is the bees knees in anti virus software and others who are happy with AVG or Avast or MSE, all opinion.

 

[Figaro]

Just been on to KF website to order and guess what.......Michelin Agilis Camping tyres are no longer listed !!! (215/75/16)
They were on there last week but no longer.
Guess I`ll have to look elsewhere, trouble is other sites don`t seem to have them either

 

[Decaf]

Just been on to KF website to order and guess what.......Michelin Agilis Camping tyres are no longer listed !!! (215/75/16)
They were on there last week but no longer.
Guess I`ll have to look elsewhere, trouble is other sites don`t seem to have them either

KF don't list your size - however, Blackcircles.com list them but they are £140 each.

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[tonyidle]

Just read this months MMM ............ they've got it down to four years. I think I'll just change mine when they need a pressure check. It'll save time .

 

[Larby]

Just read this months MMM ............ they've got it down to four years. I think I'll just change mine when they need a pressure check. It'll save time .

Hmm, are they carrying an advertisement for any tyre related business? Just me being cynical.
You could buy a new MH and the tyres could be 2/3 years old allowing for distribution, being converted, standing on dealer's forecourt.

 

[Dilbert]

It would be interesting to know what sort of mileage people are getting out of their tyres from new to legal limits ref camper tyres or commercial van tyres

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[Imbiber]

It would be interesting to know what sort of mileage people are getting out of their tyres from new to legal limits ref camper tyres or commercial van tyres

We fitted 6 new Michelin Agilis Camping tyres in December 2014 to our van and on our last MOT (09/17) the front tyres were highlighted as advisories - worn close to legal limit.

Total mileage circa 24,000 in just under three years.

Probably due in part to the front wheel drive aspect of the Fiat base as the rear 4 tyres look virtually new.

I was hoping to fit something like Vredestein Comtrac 2 All Season tyres next time round but regrettably they don't do our required tyre size.

Still mulling the idea of what tyres to fit next but would like a decent all season tyre.

 

[BusyBuilder]

Just taken off 4 Continental Vanco 225/16 tyres. Van has done 26,000 miles and I reckon they had maybe 1000 miles left in them.
Put Michelin Agilis Camping tyres on, with alloys.

 

[BusyBuilder]

We fitted 6 new Michelin Agilis Camping tyres in December 2014 to our van and on our last MOT (09/17) the front tyres were highlighted as advisories - worn close to legal limit.

Total mileage circa 24,000 in just under three years.

Probably due in part to the front wheel drive aspect of the Fiat base as the rear 4 tyres look virtually new.

I was hoping to fit something like Vredestein Comtrac 2 All Season tyres next time round but regrettably they don't do our required tyre size.

Still mulling the idea of what tyres to fit next but would like a decent all season tyre.

I have the Vredsteins on my VW transporter 32000kg lwb van. Only used in winter months so don't get much use, had them 3 years now. Look more like Land Rover type tyres.

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[Scout]

I changed my front two with KF mobile about 6 weeks ago, Michelin Agilis Camping best price at the time, great service, and a free winter kit, I was very impressed by their service, we used KF mobile again to fit Michens to my daughters focus, again great service/price.......

 

[Yorick]

I got a Bargain Bucket last night from KFC if that helps

 

[Larby]

Are KFC now doing tyres whilst waiting for further stocks of chicken?

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[Scout]

Are KFC now doing tyres whilst waiting for further stocks of chicken?

don't knw about tyres but some of their chicken tastes like rubber

 

[Yorick]

don't knw about tyres but some of their chicken tastes like rubber

Waiter waiter, this chicken is rubbery.

Ah so, thank you velly much

 

[Scout]

Waiter waiter, this chicken is rubbery.

Ah so, thank you velly much

yu wan ships? yeg n ships?

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[Chris51]

Why do people go for the most expensive tyres? Makes like Semperit at around £86 (compared to Mich Agilis -£130) are probably just as good and will usually last 6/7 years of M/H mileage. Do they have to be "motorhome " branded when its just an ordinary 3.5 ton van youre driving ?

 

[filopastry]

Just had quote for two 215/75R16C 113R tyres for our Ducato (402 euros) and the garage explained that the camping car tyres are specific for motorhomes and shouldn't consider putting on van/lorry tyres of the same size. Simply a personal opinion but if the tyre manufacturers have created them specifically for this type of vehicle the higher cost of the tyres when calculated over their lifetime or mileage isn't huge and if they represent better control/economy/security then cheaper tyres may well be ultimately more expensive

 

[Hettie's Crew]

Just had quote for two 215/75R16C 113R tyres for our Ducato (402 euros) and the garage explained that the camping car tyres are specific for motorhomes and shouldn't consider putting on van/lorry tyres of the same size. Simply a personal opinion but if the tyre manufacturers have created them specifically for this type of vehicle the higher cost of the tyres when calculated over their lifetime or mileage isn't huge and if they represent better control/economy/security then cheaper tyres may well be ultimately more expensive

Several tyres by Continental suitable for mobile homes other than the ‘camper’ marked tyre.
http://blobs.continental-tires.com/...998ef8b3/download-technical-databook-data.pdf

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[filopastry]

Several tyres by Continental suitable for mobile homes other than the ‘camper’ marked tyre.
http://blobs.continental-tires.com/...998ef8b3/download-technical-databook-data.pdf

There is the crucks "suitable", if not by the manufacturer or the motorhome then by who. I don't know, but have been told that a motorhome has its own peculiar set of circumstances, for example a 3.5t vehicle may not run fully loaded as frequently as may a motorhome, the weight distribution between the axles on a 3.5t truck may not be the same or the rear overhang. I'm a Yorkshire and want to save money, but not if it ends up with my motorhome on its side on a motorway because the tyres were not man enough for the job. Again .... I don't know, so when I doubt, I dig deeper into my high security purse ... it hurts so if anyone can help me save dosh without increasing the risk ... I need to know.

 

[Hettie's Crew]

Suitable was my word not Continentals. If a major tyre company like Continental say ‘for mobile homes’ then that trumps “have been told that” by a garage selling me higher priced tyres in my opinion.
We all have to make our own choices regarding our own motor homes and our own safety in the end.

 

[CazPaul]

Just had quote for two 215/75R16C 113R tyres for our Ducato (402 euros) and the garage explained that the camping car tyres are specific for motorhomes and shouldn't consider putting on van/lorry tyres of the same size. Simply a personal opinion but if the tyre manufacturers have created them specifically for this type of vehicle the higher cost of the tyres when calculated over their lifetime or mileage isn't huge and if they represent better control/economy/security then cheaper tyres may well be ultimately more expensive

Wow 402 euros for 2 tyres, surely you mean for 4?
Our 6 tyres just bought were only 470 euros.

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[filopastry]

Suitable was my word not Continentals. If a major tyre company like Continental say ‘for mobile homes’ then that trumps “have been told that” by a garage selling me higher priced tyres in my opinion.
We all have to make our own choices regarding our own motor homes and our own safety in the end.

I don't disagree for one second with you, I just cannot find where continental say they are suitable. Where have they stated they are suitable ... that is all I was asking. @CazPaul I know .. expensive right .. but they are not van/truck tyres, I can find the same size much much cheaper, easily but are they correct. Whilst one can say "you pay your money you take your chance" again I agree ... to a point but whilst one saves a few euros and takes ones chances, one is also maybe putting at risk other road users when control is lost. My safety is your safety, if my vehicle is not properly maintained and driven I am at risk ... but so are you. As I mentioned previously I personally do not know why there are specific tyres for our very expensive vehicles, I have put forward suggestions as to why that may be, I want to save money, believe me I really do .. but I don't want to be sat at the side of the road after an accident thinking "Is this my fault because I chose to drive a vehicle with incorrect tyres?"

6 tyres for 470 euros ... you have a bargain ... or are you paying your money and we are all taking our chances?

 

[CazPaul]

I don't disagree for one second with you, I just cannot find where continental say they are suitable. Where have they stated they are suitable ... that is all I was asking. @CazPaul I know .. expensive right .. but they are not van/truck tyres, I can find the same size much much cheaper, easily but are they correct. Whilst one can say "you pay your money you take your chance" again I agree ... to a point but whilst one saves a few euros and takes ones chances, one is also maybe putting at risk other road users when control is lost. My safety is your safety, if my vehicle is not properly maintained and driven I am at risk ... but so are you. As I mentioned previously I personally do not know why there are specific tyres for our very expensive vehicles, I have put forward suggestions as to why that may be, I want to save money, believe me I really do .. but I don't want to be sat at the side of the road after an accident thinking "Is this my fault because I chose to drive a vehicle with incorrect tyres?"

6 tyres for 470 euros ... you have a bargain ... or are you paying your money and we are all taking our chances?

Hey please don't get sucked into that marketing rubbish, stick the word''motorhome'' ''camper'' at the front of any sentence and the price automatically doubles.
You need the correct load rating for your axle weights front and rear, thats all. The tyres just bought are top tyres, Toyo H09 winters, 470 euros for 6, oponeo german website, wonderful on snow, mud, rain, use all year, easily last 8 years. Correct load rating, how are you going to lose control great handling in all conditions, correct load rating for axle weight, 402 euros for 2 tyres is daylight robbery, regardless of what they are.
Its all a big con this camper tyre rubbish, stick some new ones on every 7 or 8 or 9 years depending on condition of old ones.

At your prices it would cost 1206 euros for my 6 tyres, that's for an inferior product, handling not as good in snow, not as good on mud, in rain.

Remember what my late father used to say ''A bag of sh1t with ''camper'' wrote on the front of the bag is still a bag of sh1t. The only difference is the price.

 

[CazPaul]

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[Hettie's Crew]

Where have they stated they are suitable

‘For vans, transporters and mobile homes’ it says, sorry they don’t use the word ‘suitable’ but it appears perfectly clear to me. I emailed the very helpful technical helpline that Continental provide when I needed 225/70 15 to replace my 215s for weight up rating. They emailed back with the recommendation to fit the 4Season to my motorhome. I don’t think they would put it in writing if they thought it was wrong.
All three of the ‘for vans, transporters and mobile homes ‘ tyres are better spec than the ‘camper’

 

[filopastry]

That is exactly what I am trying to get to the bottom of, is it "just marketing" I don't know. @Hettie's Crew says it is Continentals who states "suitable for motorhomes" and with that I would go but cannot find reference to it in Continentals "bumf". I drive a Merc so know all too well the "model markup" that goes on with exactly the same item sold in a different box, an example was a thermostat that is manufactured by someone else and put into different boxes with different prices reflecting their "market position". Is this the case with tyres? Is it just load ratings, is it the size of the vehicle that reacts differently in wind/rain/snow etc and therefore requires a tyre with a different wall construction. What is the difference between a tyre of a given size destined for a truck/van/motorhome. Maybe it is "marketing rubbish". As I wrote previously, I want/need to save money, but I prefer to make "informed" decisions when it comes to safety and with the vast knowledge on here someone, somewhere will have the definitive answer and it is that that I search for.

 

[filopastry]

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To answer the original question, no, camping tyres aren't necessary. There is nothing compelling you to purchase these specialist tyres. You won't be looked down upon for using van tyres instead. However, you will be losing out in terms of value for money.

There's also a noticeable difference in the driving experience when you opt for specialist tyres. If you're a regular camper, it's definitely worth investing. You’ll certainly be thankful when you’re at full weight capacity and you need that little bit of extra support from your wheels.

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[filopastry]

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These tyres are designed specifically for use on motorhomes, the main difference is that they have tougher sidewalls. This toughness helps in 2 ways, firstly they are more suitable to run at higher pressures that are required for motorhomes, and secondly the rigidity reduces tyre movement and stops the vehicle from swaying around, particularly whilst cornering. There are also subtle differences in the tread compound which gives the tyres improved grip on wet surfaces and some differences in construction that make the tyre more resistant to abrasions & impacts.

Sorry if it's against protocol to paste from other sites, just seems easiest way to offer alternative opinions. Clear as mud, but there are apparently differences in the tyres but both sites seem to state there is no legal obligation. Seems I will have to gaze deeply into my security purse and reflect on my decision.

 

[Hettie's Crew]

but there are apparently differences in the tyres

Because a company that are trying to sell you tyres (Tyremen Ltd) tells you this doesn’t make it the truth. Just look at the prices they want for ‘camper’ tyres compared to the alternatives they also sell. Lack of competition is exactly what salesmen want. How exactly is one 8 ply tyre with the same load index safer than another?

 

[Ivory55]

That’s part of the problem. We are all used to being lied to by dealers and this makes us mistrust all associates with the motorhome. So if they was telling the truth we would find it hard to believe them.

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