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Italian government says all travel restrictions to and from Italy lifted June 3rd.
When will all of Europe follow?
 
Tigertom said:
Italian government says all travel restrictions to and from Italy lifted June 3rd.
When will all of Europe follow?
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Isn't that only, as it stands, for internal travel,, not international travel?

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Internal and international travel will be allowed.
 
Of course it will be more usefull when France, Belgium, Luxembourg, and Germany do the same. I think Switzerland already have.
 
Tigertom said:
Internal and international travel will be allowed.
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I must have heard it wrongly then, but I was sure they only mentioned internal and that international was to be looked at later.
Did they say anything on quarantine rules of 14 days if returning to UK, as Spain have?
 
At the moment its the 2 weeks isolation at the back end that may cause issues
 
Oh yes, silly me didnt remember that

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Foreign and Commonwealth Office still advise against all international travel, that`ll need to change, especially if you want insurance cover.
 
Cheshirecat57 said:
2weeks quarantine is for Air Travel
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So, why is it ok to drive and not be quarantined when you possibly could have met people from the same area who are tourists who got there by airtravel who will have to quarantine if they are returning to UK?
It doesn't make sense?
Only in my opinion.
 
My understanding is .......

There was a small news article on either Wednesday or Thursday this week when a GOvernment spokesman is quoted as saying the 14 day quarantine rule for France is back on.
This news was released an hour after the Brexit talk news was revealed as "we diidnt get on"
The quarantine was put back on for france travel (imho) as a retort and doesnt mean a thing at the moment.
Quarantine is for travel on the tunnel return at the moment as well as air travel (even though they have not implemented it to my knowledge but just said we will do it)

Captain Yoghurtpot Huge difference between airport possibility of carrying virus and car/motohome.
If coming into the country via plane with 300 other people in a confined space then good chance of catching something.
Coming in via your own possible bubble - minimal
Both have the same amount of chance of catching it on holiday which if say, you were in Croatia or Slovenia, or Austria is somewhere between 100 and 1,000 times less than here.

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Captain Yoghurtpot said:
I must have heard it wrongly then, but I was sure they only mentioned internal and that international was to be looked at later.
Did they say anything on quarantine rules of 14 days if returning to UK, as Spain have?
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No, it states Italy will be open to people from other European countries from July 3rd, not sure if that includes Britain although I suspect it will
 
Captain Yoghurtpot said:
So, why is it ok to drive and not be quarantined when you possibly could have met people from the same area who are tourists who got there by airtravel who will have to quarantine if they are returning to UK?
It doesn't make sense?
Only in my opinion.
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I didnt post to EXPLAIN the rules just to inform what I thought they were
Frankly I ‘ve run out of steam with all the debates surrounding what is the difference between this kind of non essential this and that looking for a “ get out if jail “ card
 
Cheshirecat57 said:
I didnt post to EXPLAIN the rules just to inform what I thought they were
Frankly I ‘ve run out of steam with all the debates surrounding what is the difference between this kind of non essential this and that looking for a “ get out if jail “ card
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Dear Mr. Cheshire cat
I am not looking for an argument .
I am due on a cruise ship in mid August for a 1 week med cruise , starting and finishing in Genoa, and flying out and returning via UK.
I am trying to get a grip of whether this is likely to go ahead or not, and am trying to understand the situation for my own and families perspective.
I am not looking for a way to change the rules or to bleat on about how unfair etc etc, just trying to get my head around what's going off factually.
The cruise company have suspended all sailings until July 10th currently, but may go ahead after that, but in what possibly reduced capacity I have no idea, if at all, but we have the double possible whammy of firstly flying, and then secondly of mixing with the other 5900 passengers from all over Europe .
And then on return, an extension again on quarantine.
I am only concerned for my own upcoming scenario, and not for changing any rules or advice.
Sorry if you got the impression that I was.
As you hopefully now will see why I am concerned re Italy and travel.
 
Captain Yoghurtpot said:
Dear Mr. Cheshire cat
I am not looking for an argument .
I am due on a cruise ship in mid August for a 1 week med cruise , starting and finishing in Genoa, and flying out and returning via UK.
I am trying to get a grip of whether this is likely to go ahead or not, and am trying to understand the situation for my own and families perspective.
I am not looking for a way to change the rules or to bleat on about how unfair etc etc, just trying to get my head around what's going off factually.
The cruise company have suspended all sailings until July 10th currently, but may go ahead after that, but in what possibly reduced capacity I have no idea, if at all, but we have the double possible whammy of firstly flying, and then secondly of mixing with the other 5900 passengers from all over Europe .
And then on return, an extension again on quarantine.
I am only concerned for my own upcoming scenario, and not for changing any rules or advice.
Sorry if you got the impression that I was.
As you hopefully now will see why I am concerned re Italy and travel.
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To try to help with that scenario.
I wouldnt be taking too much notice of the current quarantine system as it has only been threatened to be put into place and things are moving so fast that it will change again.
Flights are going to be your issue. I havent got a scooby what is going to happen to them
Because flights will be "not as we know them" that might naturally reduce the capacity along with people who make the judgement that it might not be a good idea.
In relation to getting back, on a plane, to UK again the planes may well be the ones that suffer quarantine.

If i were in your situation, and wanted that holiday, and had risk assessed, and come to the conclusion that if things are calming down, I might be tempted to look at driving to Genoa and parking.
As for 6,000 people on a liner, I m not sure i would be as keen as you but if i did go i would be outside a lot of the time.

Enjoy whatever you do.
 
Cheshirecat57 said:
I didnt post to EXPLAIN the rules just to inform what I thought they were
Frankly I ‘ve run out of steam with all the debates surrounding what is the difference between this kind of non essential this and that looking for a “ get out if jail “ card
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Here, you can use mine.
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Captain Yoghurtpot said:
Dear Mr. Cheshire cat
I am not looking for an argument .
I am due on a cruise ship in mid August for a 1 week med cruise , starting and finishing in Genoa, and flying out and returning via UK.
I am trying to get a grip of whether this is likely to go ahead or not, and am trying to understand the situation for my own and families perspective.
I am not looking for a way to change the rules or to bleat on about how unfair etc etc, just trying to get my head around what's going off factually.
The cruise company have suspended all sailings until July 10th currently, but may go ahead after that, but in what possibly reduced capacity I have no idea, if at all, but we have the double possible whammy of firstly flying, and then secondly of mixing with the other 5900 passengers from all over Europe .
And then on return, an extension again on quarantine.
I am only concerned for my own upcoming scenario, and not for changing any rules or advice.
Sorry if you got the impression that I was.
As you hopefully now will see why I am concerned re Italy and travel.
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To be completly fair to me, given that non if this detail was in the first question, your post #19 specifically questions me as to the difference between driving and other forms if travel after everyone reading assumed you were asking about travel to Italy and I assumed in your Motor Home

Now if the query was
” I am thinking if taking my family on a plane, to Italy to catch a Cruise ship” .....then I may have not replied

Apologies for being bolshy, nothing personal

in response to the real question, for what its worth, me and my family will not be going near an Airport, Europe or a Cruise ship for many many months...never mind all 3

Highest Regards
CC57
 
suavecarve said:
To try to help with that scenario.
I wouldnt be taking too much notice of the current quarantine system as it has only been threatened to be put into place and things are moving so fast that it will change again.
Flights are going to be your issue. I havent got a scooby what is going to happen to them
Because flights will be "not as we know them" that might naturally reduce the capacity along with people who make the judgement that it might not be a good idea.
In relation to getting back, on a plane, to UK again the planes may well be the ones that suffer quarantine.

If i were in your situation, and wanted that holiday, and had risk assessed, and come to the conclusion that if things are calming down, I might be tempted to look at driving to Genoa and parking.
As for 6,000 people on a liner, I m not sure i would be as keen as you but if i did go i would be outside a lot of the time.

Enjoy whatever you do.
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Personally, I don't want to go at present, and don't think it's safe to do so.
There are 15 of us travelling as an extended family group and driving to Genoa is not an option.
I am hoping we get the option to postpone to next year, which I feel we are all happy with, but I fear the cruise will go ahead and at best will be half baked and severely reduced in services and facilities offered, yet not recompense will be applied for such measures.
We were asked to pay our balance due smack bang at the start of lockdown, which we did, otherwise forfeiting any deposit paid (which was not an insignificant amount), and which all the consumer and legal advice was to pay the amount due as requested or loose the holiday.
The cruise company were fairly relaxed about possible postponement but I now fear they are ramping up at break neck speed to get their holidays going again at any cost to safety and concern as to what has been going on .
The ship has been in isolation for over 10 weeks with we believe no activity whatsoever other than the foreign crew who sail her, but who have not been allowed off.
The logistics of getting a ship of this size and all its functioning services up and running again from a complete stop does concern me somewhat, especially as these type of ships usually run 365 days per year as a constant operation.
Hygiene and a deep clean are my biggest concerns, and as for any form of social distancing..........?
 

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