is this the future, a snip at 200 Grand for a Coach Built

[Gerby]

a Coach built at 200,000 euros but at least it comes with a few batteries

 

[pappajohn]

250 miles then an enforced stay on a campsite for 24 to 48hrs.....thatll be popular..
Unless you carry a 3ph generator of course.

 

[Lenny HB]

Claimed range of 400km (250m) means in real life you might get 125 miles.
If it had a genuine 250 mile range and every Aire had charging points & it was an A Class and cost less than €100,000 I might show some interest.

 

[HandyAndy]

He won't be charging that on a tesla supercharger that's for damn sure

 

[Enword]

On board Diesel Genny sorted ?

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[Ernesto]

...and no mention of payload that I've come across so far ..?

A bit of googling indicates a 100 KWh Tesla battery weighs very roughly 600Kg ( I think this van has 108 KWh) and then you have to addd the motors. A mid size Diesel engine ...say 180Kg? Thats a fair old penalty if correct

 

[Pete5996]

Overnighting at a charging point doesn't seem a practical option at present AFAICS. He a;so mentioned that on a 13A site EHU it would take overnight or days...

It's worth pointing out that, a) many sites in France and elsewhere are only 6A, and b) are site owners really going to welcome someone intending to rip as much juice out of their supply as they can? A lot of sites include say, 4KWh, in their charge and then charge per KW above that.

I don't know that much about leccy vehicles, TBH, as I've no wish (and can't afford!) to own one with the present state of battery technology. Presumably if it's a 108KWh battery it's going to need 100KW or thereabouts for a charge?

 

[Grianan]

Why the negativity? It’s a start. Prices will come down, range will go up and charging will get sorted. We’re maybe still 5 years away from it being ready for the mass market but without research and innovation progress won’t happen ?.

 

[skylinersi]

and should it be dark or raining..............headlights, wipers...........less range for sure methinks

 

[Allanm]

Great idea, but they need to invest in the charging infrastructure. A couple of small car sized charging bays in a car park isn’t going to help much, there aren’t even enough points for cars

It’s ridiculously expensive though, around €50k for the van, then €150k for the electric motor and batteries?
Not for me....

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[Loveshack]

Very brave, visionary, ......or foolhardy manufacturer’s I would suggest.
Being at the cutting edge of leisure vehicle development... of “gin palaces” sounds like a very high risk area.

 

[Two on Tour]

It weighs 3.6 tonnes empty so you will need a C1 licence and that is likely to be the case for any future battery power motorhomes.

 

[Richard n Ann]

The campsites in Spain charge 40c/kwh so a charge from flat will cost you €40.

That's €40 for 125 miles ? diesel would be cheaper. With so many disadvantages these vehicles are probably 20 years away from being practical. If ever. Something else might come along first like Fusion power ?

 

[Lanerboy]

My wife has the golf GTE which has an engine but can run supposedly 35 miles on pure electric we get about 25 in truth but she only runs round town in it and she has done 7000 miles now and put less than £200 worth of fuel in it since new.

The main problem we found on a longer run is the charging points they are all owned by different companies and you need about 20 different apps to be sure of being able to charge and some you have to have credit on the account to charge.

I still think we are many many years away from pure electric working as it needs too and this MH would not fit in 90% of the charging bays either, nice thought but a long way off yet

 

[Sus3v]

Why the negativity? It’s a start. Prices will come down, range will go up and charging will get sorted. We’re maybe still 5 years away from it being ready for the mass market but without research and innovation progress won’t happen ?.

quite so, and good-oh (I think) but in the meantime it's an extremely expensive 'soak test'

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[Sus3v]

My wife has the golf GTE which has an engine but can run supposedly 35 miles on pure electric we get about 25 in truth but she only runs round town in it and she has done 7000 miles now and put less than £200 worth of fuel in it since new.

The main problem we found on a longer run is the charging points they are all owned by different companies and you need about 20 different apps to be sure of being able to charge and some you have to have credit on the account to charge.

I still think we are many many years away from pure electric working as it needs too and this MH would not fit in 90% of the charging bays either, nice thought but a long way off yet

I think the different charging bays should be standardised - like wot we have for diesel/petrol (don't know about lpg but assume it's a standardised filling point). In fact, I know nothing about this electrickery for vehicles - but I've started so I'll finish - and express my opinion unfounded in either experience or knowledge happy to be proven wrong (this time anyway) lol

 

[joe and sue]

we were at beauleiu motor museum earlier in the year, they have an electric van from about 1920, in 100 years they have still not cracked it.
I rest my case
joe

 

[Grianan]

Hydrogen may also be the way forward for larger vehicles ... I’ve harped on about it before as a friend of mine is MD of a company trialling hydrogen powered trucks ... looks like there’s interest in this closer to home ....

Glasgow endorses hydrogen power as it turns its fleet green

THEY are some of the biggest beasts on the roads - and come with a horrifying carbon footprint.

www.heraldscotland.com

I was talking to someone about some way out performances at Tectonics - a festival of ‘new’ ground breaking music in Glasgow. He is much cleverer than I am and what he said stuck with me .... if there isn’t all this ‘froth’ of experimentation the big breakthroughs will never happen. Only with the perspective of history will we know which ones were significant.

I often think of that discussion and really believe it applies to the current debate on fuel ...

 

[Ninjabob]

Induction charging structure imbedded in the roads is the only practical way and the cost would make HS2 look cheap. Not in my lifetime.

 

[Wildbill]

their were a few prota types in almost all thing till thaiy got it right good luck to them hopefully they will crack the battery thing.
and give us a working version
bill

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[stevewagner]

Hydrogen may also be the way forward for larger vehicles ... I’ve harped on about it before as a friend of mine is MD of a company trialling hydrogen powered trucks ... looks like there’s interest in this closer to home ....

Glasgow endorses hydrogen power as it turns its fleet green

THEY are some of the biggest beasts on the roads - and come with a horrifying carbon footprint.

www.heraldscotland.com

I was talking to someone about some way out performances at Tectonics - a festival of ‘new’ ground breaking music in Glasgow. He is much cleverer than I am and what he said stuck with me .... if there isn’t all this ‘froth’ of experimentation the big breakthroughs will never happen. Only with the perspective of history will we know which ones were significant.

I often think of that discussion and really believe it applies to the current debate on fuel ...

In 1990 I lived in Romania for 4 years. They had hydrogen powered buses then

 

[Robin McHood]

Hydrogen may also be the way forward for larger vehicles ... I’ve harped on about it before as a friend of mine is MD of a company trialling hydrogen powered trucks ... looks like there’s interest in this closer to home ....

Glasgow endorses hydrogen power as it turns its fleet green

THEY are some of the biggest beasts on the roads - and come with a horrifying carbon footprint.

www.heraldscotland.com

I was talking to someone about some way out performances at Tectonics - a festival of ‘new’ ground breaking music in Glasgow. He is much cleverer than I am and what he said stuck with me .... if there isn’t all this ‘froth’ of experimentation the big breakthroughs will never happen. Only with the perspective of history will we know which ones were significant.

I often think of that discussion and really believe it applies to the current debate on fuel ...

Agreed the other problem everyone forgets is its all vey well having tens of thousands of charge points but you have to generate the lecky to feed them and at present in UK we have nowhere near enough spare capacity to replace all those petrol and diesel filling stations.

 

[Gaston aires]

The whole roof could be a solar panel, like on some Prius cars. What’s the plural of Prius, prius,es or Pri,i ?
Phil

 

[HandyAndy]

Yes we do. It's no different than everyone getting home at 5pm and putting the hob, kettle tv and oven on and cooking dinner. We don't suffer power cuts when that happens and and it won't happen for car chargers

 

[Richard n Ann]

To recap then..

Too expensive.
Too heavy.
Not enough range.
No charging infrastructure.
Not enough grid charging capacity.

Then what about the cab heater? Heated seats won't cut it on a frosty morning ? oh yeah, you can always use the gas ?

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[Richard n Ann]

The whole roof could be a solar panel, like on some Prius cars. What’s the plural of Prius, prius,es or Pri,i ?
Phil

Is it Prius'?

 

[Gaston aires]

Is it Prius'?

Could be ?

 

[HandyAndy]

To recap then..

No charging infrastructure.

??????????

 

[Richard n Ann]

Could be ?

Thinking about it Prius' might mean something belongs to Prius ?

 

[Richard n Ann]

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Ok then, nowhere near enough charging infrastructure. But I wanted to keep the list short.

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