Is this legal? C&CC (1 Viewer)

[TerryL]

We've just booked a campsite in Spain where friends of ours, also Funsters, are joining a C&CC rally. When I enquired before christmas the rally was full so we left it. But it was only a day or so ago we realised we'd be in the area so checked direct with the site online, got a pitch straightaway at a much better rate.

We are C&CC members - wonder what the reaction of the organisers will be?

 

[houdini]

I didn't know that virgins had a wine club of their own. How do you prove entitlement?

Only one has been found so far - that’s why it’s not the Virgins Wine Club.

 

[Jaws]

Only one has been found so far - that’s why it’s not the Virgins Wine Club.

Sounds like it is virgin on the ridiculous that

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[PORKSTER]

We've just booked a campsite in Spain where friends of ours, also Funsters, are joining a C&CC rally. When I enquired before christmas the rally was full so we left it. But it was only a day or so ago we realised we'd be in the area so checked direct with the site online, got a pitch straightaway at a much better rate.

We are C&CC members - wonder what the reaction of the organisers will be?

Be interesting to see if they include you in there activities etc

 

[Rob Turner]

We've just booked a campsite in Spain where friends of ours, also Funsters, are joining a C&CC rally. When I enquired before christmas the rally was full so we left it. But it was only a day or so ago we realised we'd be in the area so checked direct with the site online, got a pitch straightaway at a much better rate.

We are C&CC members - wonder what the reaction of the organisers will be?

The organisers won’t speak to you and you won’t be able to join in

 

[Crazylegs]

The organisers won’t speak to you and you won’t be able to join in

I think this is probably true, we tried talking to a c and cc rally organiser at the Marjul site last February, it didn’t go particularly well.

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[Johnen]

I didn't know that virgins had a wine club of their own. How do you prove entitlement?

I would imagine that after a busy tasting session there is a possibility that the membership numbers might drop a bit

 

[Buster30]

Sure is ..
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We saw them in Vegas a few years, had a great night

 

[tonyl]

We were on one C&CC Rally for 10 days last winter and one of the stewards found it quite difficult to talk to the members! His partner was a bit better and she led most of the activities. They have moved on to another Rally for this year. At the other rally we went to, both stewards did a grand job throughout and we would have stayed longer if we hadn't been meeting friends elsewhere.

I spent some time looking at recent reviews of Rallies on the C&CC website the other day, as we have some booked. On one of them, Marjal, the stewards are new this year and a couple of comments mention the transparency of book-keeping. We haven't been there but wonder what that might say about the previous stewards!

Like everything else, there is a mixture, I suspect but you would have thought that the stewards would in some way have a responsibility to be 'ambassadors' for the club and be welcoming of potential new blood.

I do find the booking requirement to use the C&CC for the crossing annoying, as is their requirement that you must have an International Camping Card, a requirement not fulfilled by the ACSI ID card. I accept that you could get the tunnel more cheaply elsewhere but it would probably only be a few quid, unless you are a frequent traveller.

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[iandsm]

I cannot talk about rally's as they are not our cup of tea but I do remember our first lengthy trip into Europe. We booked everything including insurance and Eurotunnel via the Caravan Club as it then was. Over the course of three months we kept a record of what the places we stayed at would have charged had we booked independently. The total we would have saved by doing so would have been not far short of £1000. What a big mistake we made. We though the Cub would het us the best rices and discounts, they probably did get discounts but they were not passed on to us. One example was a very nice site in central France, The club charged us 33 euros a night for three nights but for the same pitch we could have booked independently and paid 25 euros a night for two nights with one further night free. It all left rather bitter taste in the mouth.

I am Still a member as I like using the CL network but I wouldn't dream of booking anything via the club now. I expect nothing has changed.

 

[Neil S]

It would wrong for C&CC members to come on to a site where a Rally is being held and book a pitch direct with the site outwith the rally area and then take advantage , attend or expect to be included in activity's organised by the stewards .

 

[Dorwyn]

It would wrong for C&CC members to come on to a site where a Rally is being held and book a pitch direct with the site outwith the rally area and then take advantage , attend or expect to be included in activity's organised by the stewards .

Why? It's the Friendly club, isn't it? Or is it. Some club rallies can be very clicky, and that sort of attitude highlights it. Not talking with someone who is on the fringe of the club is not a good advert for it. Surely it'd be more of an incentive if the outsiders were welcomed, and shown the benefits of joining in. TBH if they behave like that (not talking to you), I'm not interested.

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[iandsm]

Why? It's the Friendly club, isn't it? Or is it. Some club rallies can be very clicky, and that sort of attitude highlights it. Not talking with someone who is on the fringe of the club is not a good advert for it. Surely it'd be more of an incentive if the outsiders were welcomed, and shown the benefits of joining in. TBH if they behave like that, I'm not interested.

If a member arrived at a site having pre booked a pitch, they might then see that a rally is taking place and out of curiosity go along to see what's going on. I think it would be better for people attending the rally or especially stewards to welcome them and give an explanation or perhaps invite them to the part, of course they may be asked to contribute to any financial costs for to be shunned would not be pleasant.

 

[LesW]

I do find the booking requirement to use the C&CC for the crossing annoying, as is their requirement that you must have an International Camping Card, a requirement not fulfilled by the ACSI ID card. I accept that you could get the tunnel more cheaply elsewhere but it would probably only be a few quid, unless you are a frequent traveller.

We used the C&CC to book discounted Euro tunnel tickets last year, there was no mention of an International Camping Card, just a straight forward transaction.

 

[Rapido925M]

Why? It's the Friendly club, isn't it? Or is it. Some club rallies can be very clicky, and that sort of attitude highlights it. Not talking with someone who is on the fringe of the club is not a good advert for it. Surely it'd be more of an incentive if the outsiders were welcomed, and shown the benefits of joining in. TBH if they behave like that (not talking to you), I'm not interested.

Try visiting your local golf club and seeing if you are welcomed with open arms and given full use of the facilities.

After all, you are a potential member (unless you are already a member, in which case try the swimming club/football club/gym/bowls club/ "private members club" )

Gordon

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[tonyl]

We used the C&CC to book discounted Euro tunnel tickets last year, there was no mention of an International Camping Card, just a straight forward transaction.

They only say you need one when booking the Rallies. The wording on their pages is "A valid Camping Card International (CCI), available from the Club, is required for all our overseas rallies."

As you say, ordinary tunnel and ferry bookings are fine, as is booking a site outside the Rally periods.

 

[Dorwyn]

Tell you what, I'll book independently, and report back what the reception is like. I'll talk to them, but have no desire to join in the activities unless invited.

 

[Neil S]

Why? It's the Friendly club, isn't it? Or is it. Some club rallies can be very clicky, and that sort of attitude highlights it. Not talking with someone who is on the fringe of the club is not a good advert for it. Surely it'd be more of an incentive if the outsiders were welcomed, and shown the benefits of joining in. TBH if they behave like that (not talking to you), I'm not interested.[


I don't see a problem with non club rally members being interested in whats is going on and enquiring about the organised activities there is absolutely nothing wrong with that , but when non member campers are accessing the functions and taking advantage of other services provided by the rally and the stewards its a tad unfair on the Rally members who have paid the for full package .

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[TerryL]

It would wrong for C&CC members to come on to a site where a Rally is being held and book a pitch direct with the site outwith the rally area and then take advantage , attend or expect to be included in activity's organised by the stewards .

Have to agree. It was literally a last minute decision to book that particular site, and only because our friends are going to be there. As it happens, due to other commitments, we'll only be there for 3 nights and have no real intention/desire to join in the Rally programme. However it will be interesting to see what the reaction is.

We have "run into" C&CC Overseas Rallys before and generaly been welcomed, though again it was only for a short stay and we didn't want to join in any of their current activities.

 

[Greenie]

We’ve been members of the CCC for years, trailer tents, caravans and Motorhomes and it only took a year or three before we realised that they, and the other ‘club’ are not true clubs - they are businesses and out to make a profit.

 

[bb wales]

Hi, I am a steward on a rally in Spain and I would like to answer a few of your comments.
1.The rally in Marjal is fully booked with 195 pitches taken that could mean that there is nearly 400 people taking part in the rally, we are very fortunate and have a large rally club house which will seat 170 people comfortably and leave a dance floor, why should we allow non rally members to take valuable seats when we are fully subscribed by ralliers.
2. Members of the club can come into the office and we will help them all we can even if they aren’t on the rally.
3. Non ralliers can use the book exchange and dvd exchange with no charge.
4. I have personally assisted in a Finnish couple and a Dutch couple in joining the club whilst here, and a number of German, French, Dutch and Italian in joining whilst in Portugal.
5. Anyone can come to the club house and we will welcome them but also explain the limits we have.
6. On a Wednesday we have a Dinner Dance and non ralliers can book places within the club house to attend this and also the Friday lunch.
7. People join a rally to partake in what is available at their choice, if you don’t want to join a rally you can’t expect to partake in the activities that are organised for ralliers.
8. Cliques do exist, but you tell me that where there are 400 like minded people together that this won’t happen. We do try, and are very successful in getting people together and trying our hardest to enable people to enjoy the rally.

So you see we are not the ogres that we are being classed as.

Regards

Bob

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[Steadycam]

Its not a club, everone get over it

Like the Royal Automobile Club (of which many on here are ‘members’) is not a club

Im a ‘member’ of Virgin Wine ‘Club’

I used to be a member, enjoyed it very much,but once after a particularly fine wine I got talking to a very pretty woman. One thing led to another so to speak and had a great night. Next morning had to ring them up and cancel my membership as I no longer qualified Hey ho that's how it goes somtimes.

 

[Steadycam]

Its only racist to blue people.

Oi what about us Rascals you blue seperatists

 

[Dorwyn]

It’s the term of their contract. It’s up to you whether you accept their contract.

I could organise an event that is limited to only blue coloured Motorhomes. My event, my rules.

Nothing illegal there.

Ian

So don't take the contract!

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[Dorwyn]

Does this one off £75 payment go to the club, or to the organisers of the rally to pay for the rally's events? Or is it just so rally goers may (or may not) speak to me? Either way, I still don't like it. £75 is extortionate, there are plenty of alternative venues.

 

[bigtwin]

So don't take the contract!

I’m not in the market for it but, from your opening post, it looked as though you were.

Ian

 

[bigtwin]

Does this one off £75 payment go to the club, or to the organisers of the rally to pay for the rally's events? Or is it just so rally goers may (or may not) speak to me? Either way, I still don't like it. £75 is extortionate, there are plenty of alternative venues.

It’s really got to you hasn’t it!

Ian

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[Dorwyn]

And I'm normally so laid back!! Must be winter blues. Roll on February 22nd.

 

[Dorwyn]

Hi, I am a steward on a rally in Spain and I would like to answer a few of your comments.
1.The rally in Marjal is fully booked with 195 pitches taken that could mean that there is nearly 400 people taking part in the rally, we are very fortunate and have a large rally club house which will seat 170 people comfortably and leave a dance floor, why should we allow non rally members to take valuable seats when we are fully subscribed by ralliers.
2. Members of the club can come into the office and we will help them all we can even if they aren’t on the rally.
3. Non ralliers can use the book exchange and dvd exchange with no charge.
4. I have personally assisted in a Finnish couple and a Dutch couple in joining the club whilst here, and a number of German, French, Dutch and Italian in joining whilst in Portugal.
5. Anyone can come to the club house and we will welcome them but also explain the limits we have.
6. On a Wednesday we have a Dinner Dance and non ralliers can book places within the club house to attend this and also the Friday lunch.
7. People join a rally to partake in what is available at their choice, if you don’t want to join a rally you can’t expect to partake in the activities that are organised for ralliers.
8. Cliques do exist, but you tell me that where there are 400 like minded people together that this won’t happen. We do try, and are very successful in getting people together and trying our hardest to enable people to enjoy the rally.

So you see we are not the ogres that we are being classed as.

Regards

Bob

OK. Not aimed at any particular rally organiser, I've been to a few MH ones and been very happy, and a few C&CC THS sites, likewise. I am aware of all the effort it takes to organise even a small rally, which is why I've never held one. I've been tempted, but with people like me it must be a thankless task. As someone commented, I have perhaps gone overboard on this £75 surcharge, I don't have to pay it and I won't. Though I have experienced pronounced snobism and cliques on other rallies.

 

[Neil S]

Does this one off £75 payment go to the club, or to the organisers of the rally to pay for the rally's events? Or is it just so rally goers may (or may not) speak to me? Either way, I still don't like it. £75 is extortionate, there are plenty of alternative venues.

Yes there are other alternative venues , however you can easily avoid the £75 surcharge/ booking fee by using the club to make your ferry or eurotunnel reservations as well as the rally site

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