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[Siblo]

Hi guys and gals,

looking to start my first pvc in the coming months, I have a good idea of everything I need or want internally but I’m going backwards and forwards with van choice so need some help.

i’m set on a rear fixed bed across the van, what are my options?

looking at Sevel range but auto box is high on my list, would a sprinter or crafter do?

 

[Siblo]

Is there somewhere that lists all the important dimensions for reference?

 

[Otter Spotter]

Hi , sevel range will give you a 6ft across bed, whereas Sprinters, transit will not.
bed across means that you have more space towards front for kitchen/toilet etc.
you said fixed but think about folding or as we have a metal frame that just slides out in 10 seconds.

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[Nasher]

Of the Sevel vans, I believe only the Fiats offer the option of auto transmission

Sevel vans are the only ones that can accommodate a transverse bed long enough to be accepted by DVLA to be classified as a 'motor caravan' - that said, achieving this has become more difficult, worth doing a search on here

Dependent on the age of the van you are looking to purchase, earlier transits, mercs & vws are rust buckets - later ones are galvanised (who would have thought I bought a Peugeot instead of a merc of vw because of rust - but I did!)

In terms of accessories/conversion components they are generally more available for the Sevel vans than the others, as they are the most popular base van/chassis for moho manufactures

 

[Otter Spotter]

Of the Sevel vans, I believe only the Fiats offer the option of auto transmission

Sevel vans are the only ones that can accommodate a transverse bed long enough to be accepted by DVLA to be classified as a 'motor caravan' - that said, achieving this has become more difficult, worth doing a search on here

Dependent on the age of the van you are looking to purchase, earlier transits, mercs & vws are rust buckets - later ones are galvanised (who would have thought I bought a Peugeot instead of a merc of vw because of rust - but I did!)

In terms of accessories/conversion components they are generally more available for the Sevel vans than the others, as they are the most popular base van/chassis for moho manufactures

forget DVLA reclassifying van as Motorcaravan, at present no matter how close to their specs you convert Yours, they will only reclassify as Van with Windows ! Not that it makes much difference. They did say to me that because my bed was 6ft I can continue to use it as a motorcaravan, very good of them to let me.

 

[Lenny HB]

Ducato's are often the best option for PVC's, more layouts available due to the extra width. From around Sep last year a proper 9 speed auto is an option before that it was the Comformatic box which is pretty good (I'm on my 2nd van with it).

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[Otter Spotter]

Ducato's are often the best option for PVC's, more layouts available due to the extra width. From around Sep last year a proper 9 speed auto is an option before that it was the Comformatic box which is pretty good (I'm on my 2nd van with it).

And Citroen Relays, if you are happy with manual box, the Citroen engine is better than the a Fiat IMHO and Citroen pricing is better usually.

 

[Lenny HB]

And Citroen Relays, if you are happy with manual box, the Citroen engine is better than the a Fiat IMHO and Citroen pricing is better usually.

But he wants an auto.

 

[Otter Spotter]

But he wants an auto.

I want a new Cirrus 22 Gts 4 seater aircraft

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[Siblo]

Thanks for all the replys guys,

So could I fit a standard 190cm double mattress across a crafter? After insulation and paneling..

 

[mitzimad]

Thanks for all the replys guys,

So could I fit a standard 190cm double mattress across a crafter? After insulation and paneling..

No

 

[Otter Spotter]

No

Doubtful transverse, but lengthways yes.

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[cmcardle75]

My understanding is that there are no recent panel vans that can have a standard domestic bed length fitted transversly. Such vans did exist in the past and I may be wrong about the current situation, but if there is one, it isn't a common one!

 

[Otter Spotter]

My understanding is that there are no recent panel vans that can have a standard domestic bed length fitted transversly. Such vans did exist in the past and I may be wrong about the current situation, but if there is one, it isn't a common one!

look at Ducato/boxerbRelay ( Seval vans) all will let you have a standard double bed 6ft by 4.6 transverse, which is what I have, very comfortable. Just measured it and it’s 72 ins from wall to wall with 4 seasons insulation.

No transit will give you the room and the Sprinter/ Crafter range are narrower too.

 

[cmcardle75]

look at Ducato/boxerbRelay ( Seval vans) all will let you have a standard double bed 6ft by 4.6 transverse, which is what I have, very comfortable.

6ft is not the standard double bed length. Standard UK Double is 6'3" x 4'6" (190 x 135).

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[Otter Spotter]

6ft is not the standard double bed length. Standard UK Double is 6'3" x 4'6" (190 x 135).

I stand corrected Does the extra 3 ins make the difference ?
less insulation then

 

[cmcardle75]

I stand corrected Does the extra 3 ins make the difference ?
less insulation then

It does for me. I'm 6'2". You can't reduce insulation, as the maximum width is determined by the reinforcement ribs.

TBH, the 190x120 bed I've fitted in ours only works because it is longitudinal and my toes can poke out the end. At home, the bed is 200x150 (i.e. King Size), which works fine.

 

[philann]

It does for me. I'm 6'2". You can't reduce insulation, as the maximum width is determined by the reinforcement ribs.

TBH, the 190x120 bed I've fitted in ours only works because it is longitudinal and my toes can poke out the end. At home, the bed is 200x150 (i.e. King Size), which works fine.

We have a swift mondial on a Peugeot boxer and we have a standard double mattress across the rear. We took it of a bed at home so we know it’s standard

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[cmcardle75]

We have a swift mondial on a Peugeot boxer and we have a standard double mattress across the rear. We took it of a bed at home so we know it’s standard

I wonder if they removed the offending ribs and replaced with a lower profile reinforcement?

 

[philann]

It is like this, but we have it permanently made up as a double bed. Our double mattress fits exactly!

 

[Riverbankannie]

At home, the bed is 200x150 (i.e. King Size), which works fine.

At home I have 214 x 154 cm which is even better. Longitudinal in Ducato so like you, my toes stick out the end.

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[cmcardle75]

View attachment 422756It is like this, but we have it permanently made up as a double bed. Our double mattress fits exactly!

Out of interest, what is the actual dimension wall to wall? Certainly from the pics, it looks like they've modified the walls to be thinner. The window certainly looks very low profile.

 

[G-RMPS]

I want a new Cirrus 22 Gts 4 seater aircraft

RV10 is better, half the price, and maintenance costs virtually nothing.

 

[G-RMPS]

The Hymercar Grand Canyon is based on a Sprinter but they have modified the sides to accommodate a bulge for a longer bed...

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[philann]

They quote 6 foot by 4 foot 5 but the mattress fits perfectly

 

[Next Stop]

There are options to make the Crafter/Sprinter more suitable for a width way bed...

https://www.summitmotorhomes.co.uk/sideflares/

 

[Otter Spotter]

RV10 is better, half the price, and maintenance costs virtually nothing.

But no drinks holders or leather seats

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[Otter Spotter]

It does for me. I'm 6'2". You can't reduce insulation, as the maximum width is determined by the reinforcement ribs.

TBH, the 190x120 bed I've fitted in ours only works because it is longitudinal and my toes can poke out the end. At home, the bed is 200x150 (i.e. King Size), which works fine.

Shouldn’t have stood in the grow bag for so long

 

[cmcardle75]

Shouldn’t have stood in the grow bag for so long

I was the shorty of the family. My brothers were both taller.

 

[Otter Spotter]

I was the shorty of the family. My brothers were both taller.

Wow