Inconsiderate motorhomes :-( (1 Viewer)

[Southdowners]

Thank you I rest my case, I do work for the water authority and drainage is my forte.

That’s interesting... I assume you’re up to date with their policies and procedures? I wonder if you can save me an email and explain why the Water Authority’s website seems at odds with this? It clearly states that their wastewater policy is to treat all wastewater no matter where it originates.

 

[Southdowners]

Could just be read bed treatment through the ditches oil is a organic substance that is broken down by natural means unless it's a very large spill
It's not a big problems a sump full of oil soon brakes down
Bill

Yes... Reed bed treatment would get environmental kudos, especially on a new housing development - that would explain the pond.

 

[pseward152]

It’s a bit of soapy water not like the crap you get covered with on the motorway with diesel petrol and tar in it some people are so perfect ,get a life

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[pseward152]

Had proper nosey bloke check my bucket under my grey waste to see if it had a hole in it.i assured him it didn’t by chucking the entire contents over him,he never came creeping around my motorhome again

 

[Northernraider]

When I get to the age that the highlight of a Saturday evening is discussing dishwater online can someone please shoot me !

 

[tonyidle]

Carry on doing whatever your doing do not worry about motorcycles we are a tough breed.

.................... but don't leak Diesel

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[tonyidle]

Surely we're in danger of losing sight of the non-problem? Motorhome or caravan grey waste is a non-issue - wherever it goes it is no more, and probably less, toxic than many / most other liquids going the same way. Public perception is the key: don't make it obvious to others (especially those unfamiliar with our hobby) that you are disposing of it. We know it's pretty harmless but Joe Public will assume it's the contents of your loo. Me - I drain mine as sensibly as possible but I run with it open until next use to prevent smells building up. Which means I deposit a litre (probably) as I drive off.

 

[fairford rambler]

I'm surprised he had gotten on to a motorway before it had emptied itself and why was it still coming out when going, I presume, flat and straight? Could he be having a weeping problem with the valve he didn't know about? Do Rapidos have an issue with their grey drain?

Agree with all that, and exactly what I was thinking. Must have been pouring out at a fair rate of knots if the smears were coming from that. Perhaps it was diesel already on the road and being thrown up from the road from his tyres. In dirty driving conditions a lot of crap gets on the road. Just as well is wasn't his brown waste tank if it was coming from him!!

 

[Flook]

I reckon it was Diesel tanker/lorry spillage.

right Flook is back in the cage

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[Sandie]

We were in Whitby and the auto trail next to us waved and went off , as soon as they moved we saw his puddle of grey waste that was running into the grass bank .

• This is bad for two reasons , one it is mucky greasy soapy water with food debris in and therefore an attraction for mice and rats and
• Secondly it will undoubtedly give MH a bad name so that the council will stop overnight parking,

Just take it home like any responsible person. Would they let all that gunk out on their own drive no.!
Oh yes and as it was so cold that niight it froze so left a patch where no one could park!
Rant over!!

Stop overnight parking in Whitby???? They did that years ago

 

[Sandie]

Yeah that's the stuff a biker worries about believe me .......theres nothing in the world makes your ass cheeks clench quicker than rounding a bend on two wheels to discover the road covered in freshly dropped wet slimey mud.

My scariest moment on a bike was taking a bend and hitting a squashed cabbage that had presumably fallen off a farm trailer. Now that's slippy!

 

[SpeedyDux]

I asked a friend who works as a senior scientist for the Environment Agency if it would do any harm to empty the grey water into a hedge.

After some careful thought, he said no.

Good enough for me.

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[gus-lopez]

Obviously I checked the policy on wastewater discharge into watercourses for the info in my post. I’ve no reason to think that a water authority would put out false information.

Surely the pond you’ve mentioned would have had a thick film of fuel, oil, and general road run off which be a toxic hazard to wildlife? Just the run-off from agricultural land would have potential toxins in it... are you sure the water wasn’t going to treatment or soak-away?

If you wander around some service areas & laybys on motorways & dual carriageways you can see the large catchment ponds ,especially in summer when they are usually bone dry

 

[Blue Knight]

We know it's pretty harmless but Joe Public will assume it's the contents of your loo.

Tony, you've probably knocked the nail on the head with that point. The rest of the population who don't own MoHo's probably think that the 'Grey Water Dribbelers' are dropping their #2's on the road.

I do appreciate that people start dribbling more as they get older but I'm going to hold back as long as possible if I can

 

[Jim]

I asked a friend who works as a senior scientist for the Environment Agency if it would do any harm to empty the grey water into a hedge.

After some careful thought, he said no.

Good enough for me.

For years we emptied our grey and black tanks, yes the pee and poo too, into particular bit of isolated hedgerow. maybe 5 or 6 empties a year at 100 gallons a go. The only effect to the habitat was that particular bit of hedgerow grew the biggest blackberries you've ever seen. The mother in law had no idea why the blackberries there were so good and i never told her.

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[Mikey RV]

For years we emptied our grey and black tanks, yes the pee and poo too, into particular bit of isolated hedgerow. maybe 5 or 6 empties a year at 100 gallons a go. The only effect to the habitat was that particular bit of hedgerow grew the biggest blackberries you've ever seen. The mother in law had no idea why the blackberries there were so good and i never told her.

Did she not get upset when you refused to eat the blackberry pie she made.

 

[JJ]

My scariest moment on a bike was taking a bend and hitting a squashed cabbage that had presumably fallen off a farm trailer. Now that's slippy!

Does that mean you were riding around a blind bend at too higher speed to be able to pull up if there was an obstruction in the road?

Tut tut...


JJ

 

[Dare_Devil_Dennis]

I don't know if I mentioned this before, but many years ago I saw a caravanner using a grey water "filter" made from a bit of 4" soil pipe and a couple of standard fittings from Wikes. He filled the filter with grass taken from the hedgerow, not too tightly packed. when I asked him about it he said most site operators are fine with this, especially in the summer.

I have done this for a long time, with the site operator's permission, where appropriate. as long as you don't let it rum downhill to where you or your neighbours are sitting, it works fine. change the grass "Media" every week at least by emptying it into a waste bag and putting it with your other waste for the dustbin.

For the Motorhome, you can run the waste straight through the waste tank by leaving the drain open, or, to avoid censure from fellow "campers" who don't understand or agree, you can let the day's grey waste go after dark. (I am sensitive to other folks views and try to avoid us all getting a bad name)

There are lots of friendly bugs in the ground that will treat this liquid grey waste inoffensively and safely. Indeed, it is a fundamental principle of "Reed Bed' sewage treatment on the outlet of septic tanks.
The trick is to filter out any harder to treat lumps of grease and other detritus that gets down your plug hole. It is definitely not acceptable to empty "mixed" grey waste from a bucket onto ground that could/is used for relaxing or playing on. The fats and other stuff cannot be so easily and quickly treated.

A totally environmentally friendly approach, it saves your water being transported with sewage to a treatment plant where it costs a fortune in energy to treat. It gives you another option in operating your motorhome.

Incidentally, I often stay on a Forestry Commission owned site and they require you to empty your grey waste in the hedgerows.

I like Jim's blackberry story - fantastic.

Can you detect I was in Wastewater Treatment during my career?

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[icantremember]

Can you detect I was in Wastewater Treatment during my career?

I don't know about waste water, but I was often in the sh1t in my career.

 

[Flook]

Does that mean you were riding around a blind bend at too higher speed to be able to pull up if there was an obstruction in the road?

Tut tut...


JJ

I assume you have never ridden a motorbike JJ, at a bend (of any type,or length) you lean the bike so you are offset compared to the wheels, even slightly. The cause can be dramatic if your tyres hit something like that. A good friend of mine who is an excellent rider with many qualifications for bike riding has recently had a spill with gravel involved, not doing a great speed, came off the bike, serious damage to his new bike, having to replace his protective clothing, fortunately not much damage to him (he could do with a new set of brains though).

 

[Jim]

I assume you have never ridden a motorbike J

Gazillions of miles on bikes as a London commuter, ran over most things, from diesel through to blood. But the only things I ever found really slippy were wet white lines.

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[Dare_Devil_Dennis]

Wet white lines are deadly - literally. My brother lost his life at 18yrs old by braking as he crossed a wet white line. He was thrown under a tanker. He was travelling less than 25mph according to witnesses.

Off topic now.

 

[TheDogMan]

I have a 200 litre waste tank which is problem if it get full takes an age to empty

 

[jumartoo]

I have a 200 litre waste tank which is problem if it get full takes an age to empty

Which is why campsites charge a big fee for one nighters!!!

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[tonyidle]

Gazillions of miles on bikes as a London commuter, ran over most things, from diesel through to blood. But the only things I ever found really slippy were wet white lines.

Worst hazard I came across were the cast iron "round-abouts" in Paris in the '60s. Invisible on a wet night.

 

[Hilewaychile]

Even on farms it is permissible to discharge a treated dilute liquid waste of very low polluting load to a surface water or to the ground.

Every cow, pig, sheep, horse, llama etc knows that ...

When you consider what else is washed down our roadside drains motorhome grey waste pales into insignificance.

The dischage from a muck-spreader as it makes its way to the fields and the muck left on the road from one set of tractor wheels as it returns for another load makes the issue of motor home discharges trivial.

That is not to say that no mind should be paid to the matter but a sense of realistic proportion would help.

 

[nicholsong]

Even on farms it is permissible to discharge a treated dilute liquid waste of very low polluting load to a surface water or to the ground.

Every cow, pig, sheep, horse, llama etc knows that ...

When you consider what else is washed down our roadside drains motorhome grey waste pales into insignificance.

The dischage from a muck-spreader as it makes its way to the fields and the muck left on the road from one set of tractor wheels as it returns for another load makes the issue of motor home discharges trivial.

That is not to say that no mind should be paid to the matter but a sense of realistic proportion would help.

But all the Greenies living in towns see neither the detritus, nor the proportionality.

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[scotjimland]

That is not to say that no mind should be paid to the matter but a sense of realistic proportion would help.

how much would you say is a 'realised amount' that wouldn't be inconsiderate of other road users, nor give the wrong impression about our hobby ?

and why is that when some people do wrong they compare it to another one doing wrong, justifying it by saying theirs is trivial by comparison
odd , have never worked that one out

 

[nicholsong]

how much would you say is a 'realised amount' that wouldn't be inconsiderate of other road users, nor give the wrong impression about our hobby ?

and why is that when some people do wrong they compare it to another one doing wrong, justifying it by saying theirs is trivial by comparison
odd , have never worked that one out

If you are suggesting that 'Hilewaychile' was justifying it by comparing it with farm waste entering the system, could you explain why that is a 'wrong' as I do not know a law against it.

Maybe you think all the animals in all the world should wear nappies - I shall like to watch you attaching one to a bear - because I have heard that they sh1t in the woods, but maybe it is only a rumour, but even if true I am sure they do it downstream of the salmon runs.

Do you like wild salmon? Just askin'

Geoff