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Apr 12, 2012
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After another trip to the Calor shop I had a productive afternoon in the workshop. The new big nozzle works well apart from using gas rather rapidly. I should have kept to the 13 kg bottle untill the boiler was finished then swapped to a 6kg.
The last part of the boiler is finished. I have 6” of silver solder left. I have ordered some more for the after test leak fixes. It has been a challenge to build. I thought I knew about brazing welding and things like that. It is different if it’s some thing you are building for you’re self at home with limited equipment.
Some one said build the boiler first it will teach you a lot. I can see the logic in that now. I fancy building a steam roller next so that would be boiler first.
 
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John Barrett
Jan 19, 2020
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After another trip to the Calor shop I had a productive afternoon in the workshop. The new big nozzle works well apart from using gas rather rapidly. I should have kept to the 13 kg bottle untill the boiler was finished then swapped to a 6kg.
The last part of the boiler is finished. I have 6” of silver solder left. I have ordered some more for the after test leak fixes. It has been a challenge to build. I thought I knew about brazing welding and things like that. It is different if it’s some thing you are building for you’re self at home with limited equipment.
Some one said build the boiler first it will teach you a lot. I can see the logic in that now. I fancy building a steam roller next so that would be boiler first.
Hi Dave, and glad to hear your news. I imagine that you will have done a good job with no leaks!
I've been busy on the loco. It is finished all but the relining of the cab. The tender is 90% complete so I can start on my Stuart Major beam engine soon!
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Dec 12, 2010
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I did a boiler testing course down at Cheddar Models many moons ago. At the top end of their workshop, all the fluorescent light fitting shades were discoloured and uneven. They said they were brazing up a 10 1/4" gauge boiler with propane torches and the heat given off distorted all the light fittings in the vicinity. Once they noticed it happening, they had to ignore it as they were committed to the boiler build !

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Nov 22, 2007
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The two small engines where at Beer, Devon, I used to get to play on them. "Pride" had just been restored at that was the steam test!. The Rusty Fodens where in a shed On a site Near Taunton, along with a collection of Sentinel Wagons. Which I was asked to "look at"?. Wether any ever got near to restoration I have no idea!.
 
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Apr 12, 2012
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Thanks for the encouragement John. I wont promise no leaks, but I can cope with fixing leaks after what I have learnt so far. The only leak that will be hard to sort is the top of the fire box above the stoke tube . I intend to test the boiler myself because it is not going to be run in public. The safety valves will be set at 80psi rather than 100psi as designed. It seems rather high for 2x 1” cylinders.
After the excitement of boiler building I might carry on with the trailer. Our next door two up the street is a chippy and he has some nice ply for the floor and sides squirrelled away for me.
Your Stirling must be getting towards the end. You’re workshop will look empty when it’s gone. My workshop seems to be getting rather messy recently. I normally clean up after every session but I have let it slip for a while. I can’t work untidy.
 
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I remember the very last of those at Newton Heath sheds Manchester. There were a few tenders there that were converted to weed spraying.
When they lifted the tracks on the line behind my grandparents house they used a crane towed by a Black Five . The wagons were behind a 7000 class.
In the late sixties I managed to visit Barry Island. Even then it was sad to see so meany locos being hacked to death.
Gosh that brought back memories we used to go down to Newton Heath on Saturday or Sunday mornings when they were scrapping the steam trains and we got loads of dials, gauges and name plates off the engines with the blessing of the staff there. Biggest regret is not keeping any! Traded them along the way as you do and then see the prices fetching today!"

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Apr 12, 2012
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I have a Platform 1 sign from Newton Heath sheds. There were piles of burgundy coloured sighs dumped in a corner amongst lots of other station signs.
My school mate that used to visit the sheds with me brought a shutters pole home on the train. No one even blinked as he walked through Oldham Mumps station. The only person that noticed was the bus conductor, he had to stand on the back platform with it up the stairs.
Last time I heard from my mate he was moving to Peterbourgh to drive the 125,s into Kings Cross.The shunters pole was in his dads garage.
 
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John Barrett
Jan 19, 2020
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It works!
Just a few seconds of video to prove it with my good friend David at the controls. The blower and regulator work perfectly, my own design drop grate drops as it should, and it goes like the clappers. There is a slight leak on the sight tube glass top joint, and that's about it! Please excuse the jerky handwriting...😍

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Apr 12, 2012
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Your videos gives me inspiration to keep me motivated with my boiler marathon.
One thing that has caught me out is the amount of silver solder I have used. I don’t think it is any fault on my part I just miss calculated my needs.
The foundation ring and blow down bush were the last bits to solder. Once again I have run out of solder but it should only be needed for chasing leaks now.
I have seen test pumps for about £60 so that will be something to think about buying soon.

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John Barrett
Jan 19, 2020
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Your videos gives me inspiration to keep me motivated with my boiler marathon.
One thing that has caught me out is the amount of silver solder I have used. I don’t think it is any fault on my part I just miss calculated my needs.
The foundation ring and blow down bush were the last bits to solder. Once again I have run out of solder but it should only be needed for chasing leaks now.
I have seen test pumps for about £60 so that will be something to think about buying soon.
Hi Dave.Yes, it does feel good to see it running. However, I'll feel even better when I've sold it and used the proceeds on more frivolous pursuits, like a long winter rental in a villa in Spain!
I don't have a test pump, I just make some blanking plugs, fill the boiler with water and warm it up. You'll soon see any leaks.
John
 
Apr 12, 2012
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I was all set to have a day in the workshop whilst management is out for the day. The silver solder was due in the post today. It did come today. Posty turned up at half four. Our normal post lady is on holiday and they hadn’t put any one on her round so they added her post to the nearest posty after he had done his own round.
Too late to start now so I will have a full day tomorrow.
I actually have a pressure gauge that will go to twice boiler pressure and I suppose I could use the boiler feed pump. Me thinks that sounds cheaper than a test pump.
 
Apr 12, 2012
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A productive day in the workshop today. Blanking plugs fitted, adapter for pump feed fitted and test gauge fitted.
I got to 100PSI and I have two pin prick leaks from the foundation ring so far. Considering that was the hardest bit of the boiler to solder taking the most heat I am ok with that.(y)
I have re soldered them and the boiler is now in the pickle bath to clean up. I will call it a day and continue tomorrow. Our son is due here tomorrow so he can help find leaks.

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John Barrett
Jan 19, 2020
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A productive day in the workshop today. Blanking plugs fitted, adapter for pump feed fitted and test gauge fitted.
I got to 100PSI and I have two pin prick leaks from the foundation ring so far. Considering that was the hardest bit of the boiler to solder taking the most heat I am ok with that.(y)
I have re soldered them and the boiler is now in the pickle bath to clean up. I will call it a day and continue tomorrow. Our son is due here tomorrow so he can help find leaks.
That's a very good result, especially for your first attempt. Is 100psi twice working pressure? Here's today's effort. All sides gloss and dark green, with black 3/16" thick line on this side only, waiting for the white lining. l'll do the other sides tomorrow. The suspension links were an easy fix as I was able to squash the end of the 1/8" copper tube and curl it round the spring. They will be painted black! The 'nuts' underneath will be held on with loctite. The brackets and weights are 3D printed, and will be painted chocolate as on the tender in the NRM.
Progress!

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Apr 12, 2012
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The amount of silver in my boiler it will need hallmarking. The front axle weight with a full boiler will be higher than the back.
The working pressure should be 100 psi but I am going to set the safety valves to 80 psi..
With this in mind I am getting close to twice working pressure already.
I have heard some people set one safety valve slightly higher than the other. Is this normal practice.
 
Nov 9, 2016
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I have heard some people set one safety valve slightly higher than the other. Is this normal practice.
One valve on my Sweet Pea lifts around 5psi higher than the other, but I don't know whether this is by design or accident, as I didn't set them. Quite a few locos in the club with twin valves will blow off on one valve first.

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Nov 9, 2016
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Not exactly steam, but this IP Engineering Jessica kit is one of my latest lockdown projects. Most of it is laser cut steel sheet with whitemetal detailing parts. I have added extra detail and refinements and then airbrushed it with enamels. It is a radio controlled battery electric.

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Apr 12, 2012
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I think setting one safety valve about five psi above the other seems common practice. The idea I suppose it is a back up if one sticks.
At one of the running sessions at a local club I saw someone hit his safety valve with his shovel whilst driving. When he stopped in the station he was frantically taping his injector, presumably he couldn’t get water into the boiler. To think he was hauling passengers most of the day. The club rules said “You must have a current boiler test certificate to run on the club track”.
No one seemed to notice this guys antics or the state of his loco.
 
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