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Just seen on auto trader, Carthago whoosh bang 2021, 2,500 miles and yours for only 5 pounds short of £88,000 pounds. I suppose somebody will pay it, obviously still very much a sellers market. Will be hanging on to our A class for a while longer it seems.
James
 
Is it the black one ? I,m wondering if prices will fall what with all the cost of living going up etcetera, I don,t know how younger people will afford them . I notice that Carthago has 7 pages on autotrader.
 
When you say younger, as in how young?
There are plenty of banks out there ready to give loans out at fairly decent rates.
Most will only ask if you can afford the repayments.
I would be worried sick taking out a big loan but plenty of people dont seam to give a toss.
 
bobnick said:
If i can't pay for it outright i don't buy.

I know i know some have too:cry:
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Me too. We have a spreadsheet of our finances but all the vehicles are at zero as thyre all depreciating. It's bad enough buying things you know are going to reduce in value without paying interest as well.
 
It must be very difficult for youngsters to invest in anything at the moment. House prices makethem out of reach and interest rates are pitiful so I can see why they treat wages as disposable income and will worry about the future in... the future.
 
The real cost of borrowing is actually falling, if you take interest rate off the inflation rate, plus high inflation has the effect of reducing the burden of debt.
 
One of my customers has just sold his 2013 Carthago AClass with 22,000 miles for £72,350.
I sold a 3 year old VW Up last month for £2100 more than I paid for it and that was to Cazoo.
Crazy prices but the crash will come.
 
Went to brownhills at newark yesterday to get a new electric kettle, mine died after 16 years ☹
It was like a ghost town, they even had ex demonstrators in the showroom to make it look a bit fuller, about 30 Van's in total for sale and the prices 😱😱
I know I had read on here about the increased price in new and used but to actually see it in the flesh was jaw dropping

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In my view.... it's okay if you bought before the prices started rocketing and are now trading in (or selling) to upgrade, as the differential is about the same as it would have been. New buyers will feel the depreciation hit when the secondhand market calms down. In saying that, I don't think the prices will ever get back to where they were, even allowing for inflationary rises, as the manufacturers will keep chasing higher profits from the mass of recent converts to motorhoming.
 
The second hand market is stalling , only bargains are being bought. I hoight my new to me euramobil last month and i had 8 others on my ebay watchlist. None of them sold all ended unsold.

Last year they were selling easily. Dealers still asking way over the odds but fail to realise folk are now going abroad again , i got mine at a knock down price or i wouldn't have bought it
 
I am surprised to hear that there are so many mohos for sale, but not surprised at the prices being bandied about by dealers.

Following Covid, many more people would think long and hard about being incarcerated in a metal tube for x hours breathing in two hundred people's viruses. Motorhoming (or tugging or tenting, I suppose) is cleaner, because if you so wish, you can better manage the potential for infection for your family group. May not matter to some, but it does to me, and I suspect thousands of others.

Mine isn't for sale and isn't likely to be for several hundred years. Am thinking of getting better alarms, locks and immobilisers to stop it being nicked.
 
I think the market is about to collapse. We have noticed a really big drop in the number of people In Whitby midweek compared to last year but still lots of day trippers at the weekend. I think people are jetting off again we have 3 trips abroad booked this year. I think the staycation boom is over

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Northernraider said:
The second hand market is stalling , only bargains are being bought. I hoight my new to me euramobil last month and i had 8 others on my ebay watchlist. None of them sold all ended unsold.

Last year they were selling easily. Dealers still asking way over the odds but fail to realise folk are now going abroad again , i got mine at a knock down price or i wouldn't have bought it
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I agree with most of what you say Tam but I hadn’t been up North in Scotland since the back end of 2019 and was astounded how many vans are knocking about up there in April/May.
 
The Wino said:
I think the market is about to collapse. We have noticed a really big drop in the number of people In Whitby midweek compared to last year but still lots of day trippers at the weekend. I think people are jetting off again we have 3 trips abroad booked this year. I think the staycation boom is over
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Can't see the market dip, let alone collapse, for Derv motorhomes until viable, cost effective EV motorhomes AND enough charging points are available. And we won't see that for twenty years. Still a pretty good investment.

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bobnick said:
I think they are all going back to Torramalinos and Beni on the packages.:giggle:
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Hope so SWMBO wants us to drive down to Murcia area for Christmas and New Year. Need some pitches freeing up :cool::cool:

Talk about being adventurous for our first year with a motorhome. Haven’t even planned out 4 weeks in September yet :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
DDJC said:
Can't see the market dip, let alone collapse, for Derv motorhomes until viable, cost effective EV motorhomes AND enough charging points are available. And we won't see that for twenty years. Still a pretty good investment.
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That assumes that there will always be the same demand for motorhomes . I suspect that a lot of the secondhand value increases has been driven by the staycation market which is likely to reduce as quickly as it expanded. I think there will be a lot with a motorhome on the drive but returning to jetting offf on holiday after a while they're going to look at it and wonder why they're keeping it.
 
Interesting to see that since my original post the price for the PVC has been dropped by £2,000 pounds. Any guesses on how far the price will have to come down before someone buys it.
 
Coastal Cruiser. said:
We were away to a very nice site in York at Easter and that was under half full!
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We're staying at York Caravan Park right now. The site is full and York is packed...if you haven't booked some of the restaurants in the City you won't be getting in this week...luckily Mrs CTJ sorted us on that front😀

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marpool said:
Just seen on auto trader, Carthago whoosh bang 2021, 2,500 miles and yours for only 5 pounds short of £88,000 pounds. I suppose somebody will pay it, obviously still very much a sellers market. Will be hanging on to our A class for a while longer it seems.
James
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That seems an amazing price for a whoosh bang. On the same page there is an A class for only a few pence more.
 
dazandandrea said:
When you say younger, as in how young?
There are plenty of banks out there ready to give loans out at fairly decent rates.
Most will only ask if you can afford the repayments.
I would be worried sick taking out a big loan but plenty of people dont seam to give a toss.
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they will give a toss when interest rates start flying north.
remember todays youngsters have never seen interest rates hit 15% +
 
nev robinson said:
they will give a toss when interest rates start flying north.
remember todays youngsters have never seen interest rates hit 15% +
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Oh god! When we bought our first house in 1976, the rates rose up to 15% and I think slightly beyond. It crippled us for a while. But since then, we always paid over on the mortgage every month, just in case.

Luckily, I believe, most large vehicle purchases are on a fixed rate. Seems high when you first get it, but at a time like this, pays dividends. We got our older Autocruise for the same price they were selling for pre pandemic. We have seen similar for 5k more! It beggars belief. We wouldn't have bought now if the old Talbot had passed its MOT! But such is life.
 
nev robinson said:
they will give a toss when interest rates start flying north.
remember todays youngsters have never seen interest rates hit 15% +
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Have to agree with this.

I just can't see what is going to happen in the next few years re interest rates.

I remember when we moved down south in 1990 and the mortgage rate was something like 15%, how could anyone think about that now?

If, and I suppose it is a big if, rates do start getting to the 5/6/7% mark there will be a lot of people in a very difficult position when they come off their fixed rate deals.
 

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