Future value of your motorhome

[mojo]

Anyone put any thought in to the future value of their diesel motorhome as the day approaches to have all electric on to the roads.
If we speculate that as leisure vehicles they may have a shelf life of 15 years to the government's target of 2035 then there must come a time when prospective purchasers of your van will place a value based on its usable time left.
Most of us have probably been happy with the low depreciation in times passed but presumably that will not continue. The question is when and how fast the values would fall considering they may all become static caravans from 2035.
When new electric motorhomes come to market would people not be willing to pay a premium to future proof their investment with a marked fall in diesel sales. Perhaps that's when values start to fall faster than usuall?
Many will have to consider if and when they change their method of leisure travel such as caravan and electric car if they want some financial return on their van.
We are thinking to keep our present van untill forced to make it a static and not plow any more money in to further purchases. For us this means our second hand purchase in 2017 for will depreciate to £00.000 over those 18 years to 2035 at a rate of £5,000 per year which equates to £100.00 per week.
It's not all doom and gloom as we will use it extensively over those years for many adventures and enjoy the memories and all travel and leisure activities come with a cost.
Is there a different outcome for our trusty diesel motorhomes?

 

[busby]

By 2035 my van will be 33 years old and I shall be 90,,not really worried.Hope I am still using it though.BUSBY.

 

[nicholsong]

Anyone put any thought in to the future value of their diesel motorhome as the day approaches to have all electric on to the roads.
If we speculate that as leisure vehicles they may have a shelf life of 15 years to the government's target of 2035 then there must come a time when prospective purchasers of your van will place a value based on its usable time left.
Most of us have probably been happy with the low depreciation in times passed but presumably that will not continue. The question is when and how fast the values would fall considering they may all become static caravans from 2035.
When new electric motorhomes come to market would people not be willing to pay a premium to future proof their investment with a marked fall in diesel sales. Perhaps that's when values start to fall faster than usuall?
Many will have to consider if and when they change their method of leisure travel such as caravan and electric car if they want some financial return on their van.
We are thinking to keep our present van untill forced to make it a static and not plow any more money in to further purchases. For us this means our second hand purchase in 2017 for will depreciate to £00.000 over those 18 years to 2035 at a rate of £5,000 per year which equates to £100.00 per week.
It's not all doom and gloom as we will use it extensively over those years for many adventures and enjoy the memories and all travel and leisure activities come with a cost.
Is there a different outcome for our trusty diesel motorhomes?

There is no year, never mind date, to have 'all electric on the roads', only in the showrooms.

Therfore your reasoning from then on is on a false premise.

Another view would be that if there is no viable competition in the electric MH offers by 2035 there might be a rush just before then to acquire the better diesels before the cut-off date for sales, equally in the secondhand market.

Geoff

 

[Augusta08]

After looking at the Headlines and the Obits in the Telegraph this morning, I don't think it will be an issue for me.

 

[Speve]

How long is a piece of string? got more important things to worry about I’ll probably be six foot under by the time diesel is finally done and dusted.

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[Rapido666F]

I posted some time ago that we would not be renewing our 2002 Rapido: it will slowly deteriorate and parts will become more expensive BUT in 10y time (or whatever) I will be disposing of a relatively worthless vehicle. I firmly believe that if I plow £60k into a new van then diesel prices plus environmental restrictions will allow it only a few extra years (although to my mind it would still represent £60k of investment when I dispose of it).

Several years ago I considered replacing it in order to get better fuel economy; currently qpprox 25mpg. The best I could hope for would be 40mpg (that I think is a lot of hope!) and the difference in costs over 10k miles pa is less than £1k: not significant. So all I would be gaining is something a bit "posher" with the added possibility in getting into cities with Environmental Zones (but parking would be just as difficult) and the cost of higher insurance premiums, warranty-required habitation checks etc to say nothing of all the niggling complaints that we read about with new vans.

So I'm also not renewing my grandfather rights: the van is only 3.5T. I can save those medical expenses as well.

Gordon

 

[Clivefog]

If I live that long I'll be too old to drive/worry. I have already thought about turning it into a retirement home with services. No need for driving seats it would be fine for me. Cockpit would be turned into a sofa with an extra beer fridge, no room for visitors to stay overnight, bliss!

 

[Puddleduck]

Future value is something I never consider when buying anything I am going to use on a regular basis.

 

[dipsie]

It will not worry me, I’v just had a PSA blood test, was checked regularly at six month intervals’ last one November 2019. Due to COVID no invite from my urologist for another so I took it on myself to get one. Wow ! The resulting number has gone “ through the roof “ I am waiting for a telephone from my consultant at 4pm this afternoon.
We’ll see what happens from this afternoon on.
Value of our V Line is the last thing we are worried about.

 

[TheBig1]

So you honestly think there is the manufacturing capacity or resources available to replace ALL diesel and then petrol vehicles in 15 years? ALL lorries, ALL fire engines, most ambulances and the list is near endless. Diesel vehicles are not going to disappear for at least 40-50 years and still have diesel available.

A goal of 2035 is great in principle but impossible

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[SpeedyDux]

Without another big change in technology, e.g. hydrogen for fuel and all the infrastructure to go with it, Diesel will still have a long life left after 2035. The demand for used diesel MHs could mean values would go up.

At some point there will be more electric vehicles that can tow a heavy caravan (most current EVs have very limited towing capacity) so tuggers will be OK in this brave new zero carbon world. Would I convert? Hmmm.

 

[Speve]

It will not worry me, I’v just had a PSA blood test, was checked regularly at six month intervals’ last one November 2019. Due to COVID no invite from my urologist for another so I took it on myself to get one. Wow ! The resulting number has gone “ through the roof “ I am waiting for a telephone from my consultant at 4pm this afternoon.
We’ll see what happens from this afternoon on.
Value of our V Line is the last thing we are worried about.

Hope it all works out for you good luck with your medical problem

 

[Puddleduck]

dipsie thinking of you and yours.

 

[Jaws]

There is the thought that well looked after leisure vehicles could well take a massive hike in price as the 'old school' want to stick with a motorhome that as an infernal combustion engine !
It is unlikely to affect me either way though
I did not buy the motorhome as an investment.. as far as I was and am concerned the moment I bought it it lost money.... I am of the mind that I bought it and wrote the cost of it off in my head straight away.. Our present one we have had for about 6 or 7 years
If we had flown everywhere and stayed in hotels it would have cost quite a bit more, so no matter what we are on the right side of the red line

 

[Puddleduck]

There is the thought that well looked after leisure vehicles could well take a massive hike in price as the 'old school' want to stick with a motorhome that as an infernal combustion engine !
It is unlikely to affect me either way though
I did not buy the motorhome as an investment.. as far as I was and am concerned the moment I bought it it lost money.... I am of the mind that I bought it and wrote the cost of it off in my head straight away.. Our present one we have had for about 6 or 7 years
If we had flown everywhere and stayed in hotels it would have cost quite a bit more, so no matter what we are on the right side of the red line

Exactly

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[Cheshirecat57]

Anyone put any thought in to the future value of their diesel motorhome as the day approaches to have all electric on to the roads.
If we speculate that as leisure vehicles they may have a shelf life of 15 years to the government's target of 2035 then there must come a time when prospective purchasers of your van will place a value based on its usable time left.
Most of us have probably been happy with the low depreciation in times passed but presumably that will not continue. The question is when and how fast the values would fall considering they may all become static caravans from 2035.
When new electric motorhomes come to market would people not be willing to pay a premium to future proof their investment with a marked fall in diesel sales. Perhaps that's when values start to fall faster than usuall?
Many will have to consider if and when they change their method of leisure travel such as caravan and electric car if they want some financial return on their van.
We are thinking to keep our present van untill forced to make it a static and not plow any more money in to further purchases. For us this means our second hand purchase in 2017 for will depreciate to £00.000 over those 18 years to 2035 at a rate of £5,000 per year which equates to £100.00 per week.
It's not all doom and gloom as we will use it extensively over those years for many adventures and enjoy the memories and all travel and leisure activities come with a cost.
Is there a different outcome for our trusty diesel motorhomes?

Hang on.............the argument has a big fat flaw in it
Why are you predicting that your/my/everyone's motorhome is worthless, at the point when you cant buy a NEW Diesel

No one is saying ( other than the poxy media implying) that you cannot buy a second hand one are they

 

[Littlewheels]

By 2035 my van will be 33 years old and I shall be 90,,not really worried.Hope I am still using it though.BUSBY.

Oh! Your only a young fella then and heres me thinking all this time that you were on old git

 

[bobnick]

And there will always be an overseas market for used vans. Wont be a problem for us by that time, we will be in that great big camp site in the sky. Let the siblings worry about it.

 

[Clipgate]

Electric vehicles are not the answer, or even a part of the answer in my view. Can you imagine an urban street with lines of cables hanging from Windows or blocks of flats overnight! Hydrogen is in my view more likely, and retro fitting of storage and powerplant is a longer-term solution.
You will begin to notice on motorway sites in the UK Hydrogen pumps being installed. Add to this reduced speed limits and enforcement by remote means the future in my view is looking a great deal more Rosie.
Of course look at the LNG infrastructure being put in place and the new 1311 feet vessels being launched, more is afoot than we are made aware of. Chinese operations of course

 

[Nasher]

If my interpretation of the banning of new diesel cars by 2035 means that vans (& therefore most motorhomes on which they are based) are not included?

That said, life's way too short to worry about what may or may not happen to the value of my moho in 15 years time

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[appydaze]

Has anyone the new car sales companies turning up offering delivery to your home or office
such as Heycar, cazoo and cinch.... must be trying to get rid of all those fields full of cars before its too late...

 

[LesW]

With the high cost of battery powered vehicles especially vans, added to the cost of conversion to Moho or PVC, it may be more cost effective to convert your existing motorhome to electric power.

 

[TheBig1]

Has anyone the new car sales companies turning up offering delivery to your home or office
such as Heycar, cazoo and cinch.... must be trying to get rid of all those fields full of cars before its too late...

There is a phenomenal amount of unsold cars from this year. Expect the prices to plummet if covid carries on. People are just not buying this year in general

 

[joe and sue]

I can remember when we were all conned into changing to Diesel because of the deadly petrol waste, and diesel was considerably cheaper than petrol.
Then when we all had diesels, the price of diesel went through the roof, and now diesels are the scourge of the planet and we must all have electric vehicles,
I wonder what the next scam will be once there are more electrics on the road than petrol / diesels

 

[Pausim]

I am not losing any sleep over future motor home values. However if you are inclined to this tendency you also need to factor in that anyone aged 40 or younger probably doesn’t have a license to drive over 3.5t.

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[stevewagner]

Given that I'm on motorhome number 18 if I worried about losses I'd never buy another. Classic vehicles will be around for ever so there will always be a demand for petrol and diesel.

 

[gus-lopez]

When new electric motorhomes come to market would people not be willing to pay a premium to future proof their investment with a marked fall in diesel sales.

No.

If we speculate that as leisure vehicles they may have a shelf life of 15 years to the government's target of 2035 then there must come a time when prospective purchasers of your van will place a value based on its usable time left.

That date is only for the ban on new sales. The rest can be bought & sold as long as some type of doesel is available. For older vehicles & ones using the Bosch type pump ,like my last coachbuilt, they can run on any type of oil .

Many will have to consider if and when they change their method of leisure travel such as caravan and electric car if they want some financial return on their van.

Good luck with that. At present there is Tesla suv & one other ev that have some sort of towing capacity .All the others don't.

To the OP .You live in SWF. Pop down Asda . The only vehicles i have seen on the 2 ev charging points is a Zoe. & an small bmw. Until last year the only things I ever saw parked on them was the woman with the convertible Bentley. Last year is the first time I have ever seen a car using them for charging.

 

[The general]

If I live that long I'll be too old to drive/worry. I have already thought about turning it into a retirement home with services. No need for driving seats it would be fine for me. Cockpit would be turned into a sofa with an extra beer fridge, no room for visitors to stay overnight, bliss!

Very good thinking

 

[The general]

It will not worry me, I’v just had a PSA blood test, was checked regularly at six month intervals’ last one November 2019. Due to COVID no invite from my urologist for another so I took it on myself to get one. Wow ! The resulting number has gone “ through the roof “ I am waiting for a telephone from my consultant at 4pm this afternoon.
We’ll see what happens from this afternoon on.
Value of our V Line is the last thing we are worried about.

My psa blood test in December hold on to your nerves !

 

[Pausim]

Classic vehicles will be around for ever so there will always be a demand for petrol and diesel.

and Carthagos.

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