Emission zone stickers (1 Viewer)

[quilkin]

Last year I purchased a French 'crit-air' sticker for my van (2016 Boxer with Euro-6 engine) and the sticker is marked with a large number '2'.
I've just rceived a German sticker (because I'm planning to go there in 2019) and it's marked with a '4'.

So, are the numbers different for France and Germany, or have I been sent an incorrect German one? There's no information on the accompanying paperwork. The sticker is green, rather than yellow or red, so I guess it's OK, but can someone confirm please?

Thanks, Chris

 

[Zigisla]

They are different and a green 4 is the best you can get for Germany. I have a French 3 and German 4 for my euro 5+

 

[Deneb]

Short answer, yes, they are different.

Longer answer:

https://www.environmentalbadge.com/environmental-badge-germany/

https://www.environmentalbadge.com/crit-air-environmental-badge-france/

 

[quilkin]

Thanks, Zigisla and Debeb.
Odd that they are different - with 'Euro' standard deisel engines I thought there'd be a standard for this too.
BTW (for others looking to buy) the links in the post above are helpful but aren't the cheapest - I paid only 6 euro or less each for mine from the 'official' websites.
https://www.berlin.de/labo/mobilitaet/kfz-zulassung/feinstaubplakette/shop.86595.en.php
https://www.certificat-air.gouv.fr/en/

 

[138go]

They are different and a green 4 is the best you can get for Germany. I have a French 3 and German 4 for my euro 5+

You should have a French 2 for a Euro 5+ .. Did mine last year .. Just put the date of first registration in and thats what I got. I have got to re-apply as we have had a new windscreen and you cannot get them off.

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[Zigisla]

You should have a French 2 for a Euro 5+ .. Did mine last year .. Just put the date of first registration in and thats what I got. I have got to re-apply as we have had a new windscreen and you cannot get them off.

Tried so many times to get them to adjust but to no avail. Because I ticked truck - as the only correct option as I am over 3.5 t there were no movement as trucks didn’t have the correct setting. If I had bucked the system, I could have have a 2. Only once have I had to use the sticker and 3 was fine. Like many I don’t intend to use it, but “just in case”. If I bust my w/s I may try for a 2.

 

[DDJC]

Just got my German Umvelt through the Berlin site for the moho and the towed Suzuki Ignis. I was a bit worried that it was so cheap, but sure enough, it is completely eligible throughout Germany and costs only 6 euro for each veh, for life.

Already got the French ones for both vehs. Very efficient postal system.

Looked into Austria, but their system is for larger vehicles. Our 3500 kilo Rimor isn't even close, but there is advice on a forum that suggests that Austria is looking at extending the scheme to include all vehicles some time soon. We love the Tirol so will be keeping watch on this.
One other associated issue, you can buy the Austrian Pickerl online in advance (even months in advance). Has anyone done this? Do they post it, or do you print it?

 

[Stealaway]

These are mine from last year - 3.5 tonne 2012 Ducato

 

[Deneb]

Tried so many times to get them to adjust but to no avail. Because I ticked truck - as the only correct option as I am over 3.5 t there were no movement as trucks didn’t have the correct setting. If I had bucked the system, I could have have a 2. Only once have I had to use the sticker and 3 was fine. Like many I don’t intend to use it, but “just in case”. If I bust my w/s I may try for a 2.

But you're not a truck. A motor caravan irrespective of its MAM is a category M1 vehicle as long as it has no more than 8 seats not including the driver. I know that there is at least one unofficial Crit Aire website that incorrectly advises otherwise though. But for a motor caravan of any MAM you should select the M1 category when applying, even though it confusingly also states "private car".

 

[bobandjanie]

Ours is euro 6 and yes all different

1 Spain
2 Germany
3 France

Why they can't have one fits all I will never know. Bob.

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[busby]

Ours is euro 6 and yes all different

1 Spain
2 Germany
3 France
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Why they can't have one fits all I will never know. Bob.

Because its The EU,,They need loads of RED TAPE,,BUSBY.

 

[billym]

As from today a very large part of Stuttgart has banned all diesels unless they comply with Euro 5 or "better" with more stringent restrictions to come next year.

 

[rod_vw]

Blue badge??
Does the normal green badge apply to the Stuttgart area?

My vehicle is Euro 5 and has a green (4) Umwelt Plakette fitted.

 

[Deneb]

As from today a very large part of Stuttgart has banned all diesels unless they comply with Euro 5 or "better" with more stringent restrictions to come next year.

Although the blue zone restrictions are not permanent. They only apply on days when pollution levels inside the zones exceed predetermined levels due to weather or other environmental conditions. I believe they are announced on local radio and can also be checked (e.g. by visitors) using the Green Zones mobile app. On days when the blue zone is not enforced, you will still be able to enter subject to the permanent green zone restrictions and validity of your Umwelt Plakett.

 

[Deneb]

Because its The EU,,They need loads of RED TAPE,,BUSBY.

Although if they were all the same, I suspect you'd say that was due to the EU as well, because they can't allow individual countries to make their own legislation

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[Fontie]

Is the Spanish one only available in Spanish post offices ?

 

[billym]

My understanding is that this is permanent. Certainly my Stuttgart residentneighbour here thinks it is. ...and he is not happy[/QUOTE]

 

[busby]

Although if they were all the same, I suspect you'd say that was due to the EU as well, because they can't allow individual countries to make their own legislation

Well you suspect wrong,,,Thought originally that EU was to harmonise,,note harmonise not enforce legislation throughout EU so that life would be simpler,,ie,same MOT EU wide,,same road traffic laws,,etc, etc but unfortunately it has never happened,,,the experiment is failing..Dont think we will be the last country to leave.BUSBY

 

[gus-lopez]

Why they can't have one fits all I will never know. Bob.

They each wouldn't get there 6€ then

Is the Spanish one only available in Spanish post offices ?

I belive you can apply online through the DGT site, or probably the spanish would use a gestoria . but @bobandjanie will let you know how they got theirs.

 

[Deneb]

My understanding is that this is permanent. Certainly my Stuttgart residentneighbour here thinks it is. ...and he is not happy

[/QUOTE]

Having looked into this further, I think you are right, my apologies. The original proposals for the introduction of blue zones were as temporary measures to be used during times when specific pollution levels were exceeded, similar to the ZPA zones in France.

It now looks as if permanent restrictions are being unilaterally imposed in several German cities following the more recent Federal Court decision. Current Euro 6 diesels are categorised with Euro 5+ because they do not meet the latest Euro 6d-Temp standard. Euro 5+ will subsequently be banned unless retrofitted with SCR filters.

The German government has approved retrofit filter kits for non-compliant vehicles, but needless to say the motor industry are resisting that approach because they want to build and sell new vehicles. Quite ironic when the vehicle manufacturing industries located in Stuttgart are regarded as a not insignificant contributor to the city's pollution problems!

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[bobandjanie]

Is the Spanish one only available in Spanish post offices ?

Yes we got ours in the post office €5. Bob.

 

[Fontie]

Yes we got ours in the post office €5. Bob.

Thanks post office it is.

 

[quilkin]

Is the Spanish one only available in Spanish post offices ?

I'm off to Spain next week and only have German and French stcikers, didn't know they were needed for Spain. Do you need them only for cities? (I don't like cities so rarely drive into them).

 

[Fontie]

I think its only cities at the moment but who knows could be extended in the future, the way I see it...its better to get them encase I stray into a LEZ area by mistake

 

[billym]

This is a good page to help to keep up with the ever changing clean air regs.
For example. From July 2019 Crit Air 4 vehicles will be banned in Paris.

https://www.distintivo-ambiental.es/en.html

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[gus-lopez]

I'm off to Spain next week and only have German and French stcikers, didn't know they were needed for Spain. Do you need them only for cities? (I don't like cities so rarely drive into them).

There is only Madrid in Spain at present

 

[jongood]

Does anyone know how the new French ZPads will be enforced?

The German Zones are apparently not enforcable by camera and you can only be fined if you are seen somewhere you shouldn't be by a policeman.

 

[rb62]

This is a good page to help to keep up with the ever changing clean air regs.
For example. From July 2019 Crit Air 4 vehicles will be banned in Paris.

https://www.distintivo-ambiental.es/en.html

So much for harmonisation! put them all on and you'll have restricted vision.