Ducato Battery Dead

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  1. Steve304

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    Hello Funsters,

    Just been to retrieve my beloved motorhome after three months in storage. Unfortunately, the vehicle battery is completely dead and I can't get it to start :cry:. Probably due to being left so long with the alarm activated, which has drained the battery?

    The motorhome is fitted with a 120 watt solar power unit and I was under the impression that this kept both leisure and vehicle batteries topped up, but it seems that it only works with the leisure battery, as that is fully charged.

    I have a few questions that I hope someone can help me with:-

    1. I have tried to jump start the motorhome using good heavy duty cables, via the 'remote positive battery terminal' under the bonnet and the negative terminal connected to a good earth on the bodywork. However, this has proved unsuccessful. Should this be possible?

    2. Where is the vehicle battery actually located? As it might be quicker to remove it and then charge it up with a battery charger at home, then re-fit it. * I think it might be under the cab floor, but I have left the manual inside the motorhome, doh!

    3. Inside the control panel on the motorhome there is a 'battery charger switch'. Does this charge the leisure battery, the vehicle battery, or both?

    Thanks for any help on this.

    Steve

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    looks like synchronised posting again :Rofl1:

    1 it would work if the battery was capable of taking a charge

    2 already posted

    3 not sure which panel you have but many you have to select the battery to receive charge when on hook up. both charge from the engine when running but the leisure battery will take much longer to charge unless you fit a b2b charger
     
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    If needing a new battery I recommend the VARTA 110 ah about £95 is fair via eBay delivered
    Even if your existing battery is a lower AH it's worth upgrading the capacity
     
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    Battery Question

    I was talking to some one at the Malvin show a couple of years ago, and they told me that they had a connection between the main battery and the van battery, And I think it was called a Battery Baron I have never come across anything even near this and I wondered if any one knows of something similar ? As this would resolve this type of problem
     
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    engine charging leisure battery

    http://www.sterling-power.com/products-battbatt-info.htm

    Leisure battery charging engine battery

    http://www.vanbitz.com/product/battery-master/
     
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    :thumb: Thanks to everyone who responded. Your help was really appreciated and I have now managed to get an industrial battery charger connected to the battery, so will leave it for 24 hours and see if it works.

    I think I will order one of those leisure battery to battery boxes from vanbitz though, as recommended by papajohn, to prevent this from happening again in the future.

    Regards

    Steve
     
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    We had the same problem till we fitted the vanblitz batter master, problem solved an excellent product.

    Though be aware that the ducat is a very power hungry vehicle when sat on the driveway.
     
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    if you have a split charge relay you can get at easily you can just put a temp link across the terminals and the solar will charge both batteries best to put a low voltage fuse in the link in case you forget to remove it before starting the van
     
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    Fetched mine today to take for her MOT (passed). Both batteries full to the brim using solar panel and the Vanbitz battery master.
    Sits across the split charger relay as shown in picture, simple.:thumb:
     

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    Thanks for the pic Larby :thumb:
    That's what folk need more of! half the battle to DIY
     
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    Please excuse my ignorance, but how can I tell if there is a split charge relay fitted? I bought the van with the solar power unit fitted and unfortunately there isn't any instructions manual with it.

    Steve
     
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    You can also buy a relay that does the same as the battery master for half the price or so!
    I wanted to avoid the same problem and took advice from a very knowledgable Funster,I bought a relay which when fitted transferred charge to my engine battery when the leisure ones were full.Cant remember which make,however he's never far away.I'm sure in his ,spot a bargain spirit,he will see this and provide a link :Wink:




    Vlad
     
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    The chances are is that there is a split charger fitted by Autotrail to charge leisure battery when engine is running. The Battery master in my picture allows power to flow to the vehicle battery once the leisure battery is topped up by the solar panel or by EHU.
    The enclosed diagram may (or may not) help understand the principle.
     

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    [ame="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=111288730498"]SPLIT CHARGE EASY FIT LEISURE & ENGINE BATTERY CAMPER MOTORHOME BOAT 12V SOLAR | eBay[/ame]

    Despite my best efforts it appears the forum will no longer accept links to this device :Sad:

    HOWEVER ebay item 111288730498
     
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    As has been mentioned, I'm pretty certain all motorhomes are fitted with a split-charge relay, so that the cab battery and the leisure battery are both charged up by the alternator when the van is being driven (or at least the engine is running). :thumb:

    Mike
     
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