Diesel in sump Chevy big block 6.5 v8

Just priced up a set of injectors nearly 2k so that’s a lot of money just for parts before fitting and if it was my van I would fit them and take the chance.
But doing it for another person different story
Especially when he’s had as bad luck as he has
And my luck isn’t much better if it wasn’t for bad luck I wouldn’t have any luck of any kind
Wildbill
 
Wildbill said:
Just priced up a set of injectors nearly 2k so that’s a lot of money just for parts before fitting and if it was my van I would fit them and take the chance.
But doing it for another person different story
Especially when he’s had as bad luck as he has
And my luck isn’t much better if it wasn’t for bad luck I wouldn’t have any luck of any kind
Wildbill
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As you say, when you're doing it for someone else, it puts a completely different perspective on the job as I explained to someone who wanted me to do his brakes the other day.
If you do your own and it's not quite right after a few miles, you can do it again but, I don't think this person would know if they are right or wrong and he, at 60+, is a bit of a 'boy-racer' 😱 😀
 
chesterfield hooligan said:
To be honest I would pull the injectors and have them tested first and just replace the faulty ones .
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I am talking to him today at sum point when he sobers up
I can test the injections but it a fairly big job just getting to them I don’t know if he wants to spend any more on it the injections are about 600 each new re manufactured are 218 each and that might not fix the problem if there’s cylinder piston damage the cylinders piston rings will probably be Whased of carbon so there could be issues there and seals blown owing to diesel just lubricating the big ends thay could be scored or damage so much mor could be wrong he might be throwing good money after bad it has a good few habilitation issues as well.
Could it just become a money pit for him it’s a project van for someone who can fix.
it one of thos thing thy just rubs the hands and opens the golden money put not Sumthing he can fix his self not even changing the oil or coolant
I don’t know till I have spoken
But he’s bought a pig unfortunately
My hart is broken for him
£1500 to transport to Newcastle then probably 2k for injections plus’s and labor at least
And if it’s a rebuild 5k
Lots of money
Wildbill

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a money pit as you say Bill. With all those faults it's either a case of spend weeks fixing it yourself or empty your bank account

One thing not asked yet, do any of them have the right driving licence?
 
TheBig1 said:
a money pit as you say Bill. With all those faults it's either a case of spend weeks fixing it yourself or empty your bank account

One thing not asked yet, do any of them have the right driving licence?
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Yes the guy that owns it has his 7.5 ton
 

TheBig1 said:
a money pit as you say Bill. With all those faults it's either a case of spend weeks fixing it yourself or empty your bank account

One thing not asked yet, do any of them have the right driving
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Yes he will spend a fortune on it if he gets it done beyond ecanonical repair even a re built engin 0 hrs is almost 6 k
Wildbill
 
TheBig1 said:
a money pit as you say Bill. With all those faults it's either a case of spend weeks fixing it yourself or empty your bank account

One thing not asked yet, do any of them have the right driving licence?
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I have just sent him this text
What I have learnt from that fault is worth more than money knowledge is priceless I had never seen that before good luck with it you own me nothing
Kind regards
Wildbill
 
The minimum you might try , is pull the inj on the cylinder that's down , fit recon or good s/hand, fresh oil in sump , new oil filter and give it a run . It will either work or not and thats about the cheapest you could try , and get some sort of answer . Otherwise its all speculation. JMHO

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tacr2man said:
The minimum you might try , is pull the inj on the cylinder that's down , fit recon or good s/hand, fresh oil in sump , new oil filter and give it a run . It will either work or not and thats about the cheapest you could try , and get some sort of answer . Otherwise its all speculation. JMHO

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I am walking away from it just a can of worms I think
Wildbill
 
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tacr2man said:
The minimum you might try , is pull the inj on the cylinder that's down , fit recon or good s/hand, fresh oil in sump , new oil filter and give it a run . It will either work or not and thats about the cheapest you could try , and get some sort of answer . Otherwise its all speculation. JMHO

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I do have those saved in my eBay
Regards
Wildbill
 
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Have you checked the mechanical fuel pump,
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Wildbill said:
Ok her I go I stoped to help out a RV owner who was on there way to Germany for the euros
Oil everywhere fan belt had broken or so I Thaugh no problem.
But as I investigated further ie dipped the oil
It was six inches past full mark.
And very thin
I drained the oil back to the normal marks
The engine starts but lumpy.
So I slack off the injections one at a time it changed tone became more lumpy I manèges to do this with six of them.
The two behind a the heat shield can’t get to as it is a bit of a strip down and they were on there way to Paris from Manchester then train to Düsseldorf.
So couldn’t get hold of them or the owner of the RV
The injectors are a bit difficult to get to
Anyway my Thaugh are one of the injections has failed washing past the rings or the injector pump is leaking diesel in to sump from a failed seal I will know when I have the injectors out and test them

The thing’s I am wondering

1 if it a injector porin Diesel in to the the piston boair could it have hydraulic the engine if so that’s I knackered game over .

2 if I get the injectors out and find the one that knackerd and it has fallen apart game over

Do a camera check and make sure that the piston is not damaged there is a risk of a bent con rod game over

3 if I I can do a compression test on all the boors the should be a good starting point

4 I have never come across this herd of it but never actually seen it before

Thay were very lucky that the engine didn’t start eating the diesel from the sump runaway engine

The boys are at the euros for the next 10 games
So 10 days for the owners to make his mind up get it recovered back to Newcastle a very evpencive newbie mistake no recuvery on a van he bough on impulse
If I had got it going they were going to kidnap me to Germany I told them you haven’t met my wife she would hunt you down and kill you
Sorry for the long post and rambling on a bit
Don’t know if they will want me to do it but you never know
Wildbill
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Hi Bill.

I have had many of these apart over the years.

Another possibility is that the front seal on the injector pump is leaking, as the pump is mounted to the front cover under the intake manifold it will go straight into the sump.

If it is a mechanical 6.2 diesel the lift pump could be suspect as well.

If it is an electronic 6.5 diesel there is no lift pump on the engine, it is an electronic ticker pump fitted on the chassis in front of the fuel pump.

Adi

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adi4 said:
Hi Bill.

I have had many of these apart over the years.

Another possibility is that the front seal on the injector pump is leaking, as the pump is mounted to the front cover under the intake manifold it will go straight into the sump.


Adi

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As one of my previous post it thay can’t be bothered to answer my texts thay sure are not going to pay me or show up exept to drive it off when fixed gut feeling
Been thare done that on more than one occasion
Wildbill
 
adi4 said:
Hi Bill.

I have had many of these apart over the years.

Another possibility is that the front seal on the injector pump is leaking, as the pump is mounted to the front cover under the intake manifold it will go straight into the sump.

If it is a mechanical 6.2 diesel the lift pump could be suspect as well.

If it is an electronic 6.5 diesel there is on lift pump on the engine, it is an electronic ticker pump fitted on the chassis in front of the fuel pump.

Adi

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Just to ade to my previous post the guy thay left behind has lock the van down and gone home taking the keys with him
It can rot in the pub car park for me
Wildbill
 
No problems, sometimes you just have to walk away lol (y)

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Wildbill said:
Reply to my own post it timing chain just downloaded the manual
So relieved no timing belts to deal with
That could have been contaminated
Wildbill
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Typical American mentality Bill.
They haven't caught up with the trend in belts when a chain has worked since Henry Ford was a lad.
Same with power.....why fit a turbo when you can simply fit a 7ltr engine
 
pappajohn said:
Typical American mentality Bill.
They haven't caught up with the trend in belts when a chain has worked since Henry Ford was a lad.
Same with power.....why fit a turbo when you can simply fit a 7ltr engine
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It. Does have a timing chain but a belt the drives every thin powestering water pump compression for air brakes and air con compressor madness
 
Chain any day of the week for me papa, last the life of the engine. Not like a crappy belt.
 

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