Caravan & Motorhome Club have lost it! (1 Viewer)

[donnkim]

We stayed at Burrs CMC. Tuesday to Saturday at over £22 per night - IN JANUARY.
They had 4 to 6 wardens and less than 20% of pitches taken - hardly surprising!
They got busier on Friday night but Sunday to Thursday - vertually empty.
We are having the builders in our bungelow so will be staying in our motorhome for 3 or 4 weeks. I will not pay over £22 for a weekday pitch in January.
Surely someone at this club would realise that charging £18 - £19 would bring extra revenue.
Also they should look at their pricing structure - pitch fees plus number of occupants.

 

[PhilMary]

Is it worth £22 to stay in Bury overnight? no, you'd have to pay me at least £44!
Phil

 

[DavidG58]

and what setting have you got your heating on tonight?

3Kw option on ours which would probably be in use in our case with minus temps outside

Commercial rates for electric are no better than 15p / Kw that could get through £11 of that fee just in electrics

personally I would pay £22 for proper roads and good hardstanding in winter

and if it snows they will be round with their tractor and clear the roads

we also like free camping, but don't think £20 / night is too much

 

[scotzsue]

The club is good thoug, price wise, for solos but have to agree been looking for somewhere to go in a few days time for 3/4 nights. Anything near civilisation is pricey. Not the weather for taking the bike and being in the middle of nowhere.

 

[Stealaway]

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[DaveandJen]

Being a club member have you thought about contacting them and discussing your problem and asking if a discount for your long stay can be arranged?

 

[Allanm]

We’ve been on a few sites over the last few weeks and see lots of wastage of power. Motorhomes and caravans with their outside lights on all night. Unoccupied awnings with heaters on all night. People using wasteful fan heaters when they have perfectly useable gas heating in their vans. Site lights left on all night.
Ok, so, you pay for electricity but that doesn’t mean you have to use as much as you can
If people tried to save a bit of power then I’m sure costs could be reduced. ( we contacted the club about this and they are looking at ways to reduce power wastage)
We are not huge fans of the C&MC but they are convenient for us when we visit the UK, but we refused to pay their over inflated prices over the new year week and stayed elsewhere till the prices went down.

 

[Masman]

We are on York. Roundtree park. £22 pound's a night. Bang on. Walking into York 10minutes. Went to see a show had a meal. If we had stopped in a hotel i dread to think of the costs. Free hot showers usual standards .we don't have electric heating but still think the price is acceptable. -2 here last night and snug as a bug in a rug .I could have gone on a cl and still paid 14 pound's for a field with electric

 

[MisterB]

We stayed at Burrs CMC. Tuesday to Saturday at over £22 per night - IN JANUARY.
They had 4 to 6 wardens and less than 20% of pitches taken - hardly surprising!
They got busier on Friday night but Sunday to Thursday - vertually empty.
We are having the builders in our bungelow so will be staying in our motorhome for 3 or 4 weeks. I will not pay over £22 for a weekday pitch in January.
Surely someone at this club would realise that charging £18 - £19 would bring extra revenue.
Also they should look at their pricing structure - pitch fees plus number of occupants.

Wortley Hall, just outside Sheffield isn't that far away and at £18 per night inc electricity (the price youre looking for) is an off the track location, set in the grounds of a stately home which is now run as a hotel. might be worth a look ? I reckon you could even get breakfast there - ive stayed in the hotel lots of times and think its good value. not tried the campsite yet though

https://www.wortleyhall.org.uk/caravans-cottages/

 

[The Wino]

I think theres no problem if the price is stated up front its up to people to pay or go elsewhwere. It would be great though to offer an option of no hook up or a very low power one (for battery top up/lighting ony) at lower cost nothing wrong with choice

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[mitzimad]

i cant understand why a pitch should be cheaper for one person as your taking a pitch no matter what

 

[elamessa]

May be the answer is to charge so much per kw of electricity as they do in France/Spain. Would solve the problem of people leaving unecessary lights/heaters on when not needed.

 

[deleted-member02]

@donnkim I think you're right.
I'm looking to book a couple of sites on-route between Bristol & Scotland.
These member prices are fairly typical of what I've found so far (standard with no awning)
When did it get so expensive??

 

[Onemanandhisdog]

Yep, well over £600 a month for somewhere to park and live in your own van!

 

[scotzsue]

i cant understand why a pitch should be cheaper for one person as your taking a pitch no matter what

Because only one ot of showers, one lot of toilet only half the amount of facilities being used, pitch site is the same no matter how many go charged per person after that. I certainly don't want, when travelling solo, to pay the same as i do when travelling with John and 3 or 4 grandchildren.

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[wiljoy]

Money has been the club's god for over 35 years that I know of. They keep telling us the members own it but they still fleece us at every chance.

 

[RogerThat]

We stayed at Burrs CMC. Tuesday to Saturday

Are you able to see the steam train from any of the pitches do you know?

 

[Clarky]

I think that with CL's often charging £15+ per night a C&MC site at £20-£23 per night for two plus van is not bad.
Good access, hard standings, 16a hook-up plus toilets and showers for those that want them (we never use them when we have private facilities on board) plus the usual high standards you expect on their sites.
Of course I would much rather be paying €5-6 or even nothing for a French aire but in the depths of winter there is something to be said for knowing that you won't run out of battery power or get stuck in a muddy field.
Just booked a few nights in Derbyshire on C&MC sites, that's if we don't get snowed in before next week.

Richard.

 

[TheTwoOfUs]

Most of them. There is also a stop at the back of the site.

 

[TinaLes]

CMC Site Rates too high?, yes, as they are not priced properly at present IMHO.
Reading this thread saddens me to think there are some ignorant, naive people out there that take great relish in the fact that they are being charged for electric in the pitch price, so they are going to make sure "they get their monies worth"!

I would second the idea of being offered a discount if not requiring an EHU, or simply have a metered pitch supply, which to me is common sense as that's what we have at home after all, and many sites abroad have already implemented this approach.

I feel those of us that do not take the mickey with an EHU supply in that we are out during the day,can survive on a 6 amp supply and do not wish to heat our awnings via electric, are paying the price for those aforementioned nobs that do.

If we allow a for conservative electric supply price of 15P per KWH, and these selfish people are running at 3KW/hour, to include heating their vans & awnings, FF, Charging batteries and devices, TV etc then thats £10.80 (net of 20% VAT & 5% Gov Tax) for 24 hours on its own.(£13.61 Gross after tax)
These energy costs have to be passed on to all of us, hence one reason for the higher pitch prices, especially at peak periods in winter.
Its hardly surprising that so many sites close in the winter months, as its simply not commercially viable at any price below £20-25 at this time of year.
Just ask site owners like @eddievanbitz what his site electric bill was last year, it was a staggering amount. Therefore unfortunately ways to stop abuse must be thought out and implemented, such as individual pitch metering, so all parties are treated more fairly, from both owners and customers perspectives.
If only people were a little more responsible with their attitudes in using sites, even at CMC prices, this would help IMHO, otherwise there will be price hikes every year, just to cover the ever increasing utility costs, that we all have to endure, even at home.

Maybe my suggestions will not please everyone, but hopefully you agree, implementing a change of attitude is needed in relation to energy usage, to try and reward those that are sensible & responsible and not being selfish.

All the best.
Les

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[DaveandJen]

Money has been the club's god for over 35 years that I know of. They keep telling us the members own it but they still fleece us at every chance.

Hi wiljoy, no need to be concerned about the C&M Club fleecing the members otherwise it would show up in the yearly accounts sent out to the members.

 

[wiljoy]

Hi wiljoy, no need to be concerned about the C&M Club fleecing the members otherwise it would show up in the yearly accounts sent out to the members.

I stopped believing company accounts many years ago.

 

[Gellyneck]

Are you able to see the steam train from any of the pitches do you know?

A couple of photos-

The rail-track behind some of the pitches (think these may be fully serviced).

The site has it's own station.

From the platform overlooking the path up to the station and the park.

Website for the railway. http://www.eastlancsrailway.org.uk/
There's a C&MC discount for travel on the train. From memory, two for the price of one.

The pub at the site gate (The Brown Cow) does very good pub grub at sensible prices. It's dog friendly and tends to be quite busy at times so better booking a table.

 

[mitzimad]

metered supplies would involve the "club"spending money as it is they are making money on the electric so why would they?

 

[Eggs]

I think that with CL's often charging £15+ per night a C&MC site at £20-£23 per night for two plus van is not bad.
Good access, hard standings, 16a hook-up plus toilets and showers for those that want them (we never use them when we have private facilities on board) plus the usual high standards you expect on their sites.
Of course I would much rather be paying €5-6 or even nothing for a French aire but in the depths of winter there is something to be said for knowing that you won't run out of battery power or get stuck in a muddy field.
Just booked a few nights in Derbyshire on C&MC sites, that's if we don't get snowed in before next week.

Richard.

A couple of photos-
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The rail-track behind some of the pitches (think these may be fully serviced).

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The site has it's own station.

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From the platform overlooking the path up to the station and the park.

Website for the railway. http://www.eastlancsrailway.org.uk/
There's a C&MC discount for travel on the train. From memory, two for the price of one.

The pub at the site gate (The Brown Cow) does very good pub grub at sensible prices. It's dog friendly and tends to be quite busy at times so better booking a table.

I know a bloke who got run over by a steam train, he was chuffed to bits.

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[DaveandJen]

metered supplies would involve the "club"spending money as it is they are making money on the electric so why would they?

Also hard to take electric meter readings when some people want to set off early in the morning.

 

[Clarky]

I know a bloke who got run over by a steam train, he was chuffed to bits.

I gave that a 'funny' but I think it should be a .

Richard.

 

[M-J]

Thinking of joining, sites always look clean, safe and well maintained in photos and similar in reviews.

All that for 2 people for £22 ish per night... am I missing something?

 

[Gooney]

I know a bloke who got run over by a steam train, he was chuffed to bits.

I know of a steam train driver who suffered from piles, he had a tender behind

 

[tonyidle]

but they still fleece us at every chance

Better take a look at their accounts then. They're on file and available on line.

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