Can we sleep in our motorhome in our own drive?

[Jac Sprat]

Apologies if this is common knowledge but we would like to try out our new van on our drive. It's in front of a row of terrace houses on an estate and all the drives are parallel so can be seen by other houses. Would we be breaking some law? The driveway is technically our, land.
Advice appreciated.

 

[Puddleduck]

Unless there is some covenant or by-law against sleeping in vehicles you will be fine

Oh, unless you are causing a road safely issue or the like but if cars are left on the drives I don't see an issue.

 

[Jac Sprat]

Thanks
Hubby seems to think it's like you can't live in a caravan on your own land.

 

[Anthea M]

Not sure of the legalities but whose to know if you are very quiet! Neighbours will probably want a nosey in it ! Ours did!

 

[Bill_OR]

Are there any conditions/covenants stated in your deeds about not parking caravans/motorhomes on your drive? If not then I doubt that there's a problem.

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[Puddleduck]

We often sleep in ours - especially if we have lots of visitors.

We also sleep in ours when free loading on other people's drives

 

[Puddleduck]

Are there any conditions/covenants stated in your deeds about not parking caravans/motorhomes on your drive? If not then I doubt that there's a problem.

Even then for one night it would be easy to say sorry after the event. If anyone comes knocking don't answer.

 

[Puddleduck]

Thanks
Hubby seems to think it's like you can't live in a caravan on your own land.

If I understand correctly you can't live in a caravan / motorhome even on your own land without planning permission if it is a separate residence to the main house. If it is used purely as an extra bedroom that is another matter. However even without planning permission you can have up to 5 units on your land for 28 days without planning consent.

Best to check before you do it though - the 5 vans that is.

 

[Anthea M]

Yes we use ours as extra accommodation when house is full at Christmas! Love the fact I can leave all the tinsel turkey mess and have a quiet sanctuary until it all starts again the next day!!

 

[GWG]

Only an issue (according to our local Council planning (Torbay)) if you want to use a caravan as a Seperate (self contained) Dwelling.
Or build a Seperate dwelling, e.g. Lodge/Cabin/ Garden house etc to be used as Seperate accommodation to the house.
For your own use, i.e. Popping in and out of house, not Seperate "permenant" accommodation for other people. It's nobody else's concern , or business.
Bit like your kids putting up a tent in the Garden, in the summer.
The house will remain the main, and permanent residence.

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[Jac Sprat]

That's reassuring thanks

 

[icantremember]

Don't worry ... as it is a new van you will probably be too excited to sleep anyway.

 

[Mikey RV]

Why not just go somewhere in it, even to a local campsite. You don't have to go far to seem like your miles away.

 

[ambulancekidd]

Local coven

Unless there is some covenant or by-law against sleeping in vehicles you will be fine

Oh, unless you are causing a road safely issue or the like but if cars are left on the drives I don't see an issue.

Local covenants are fine fine but has anyone on here ever hear of one being enforced? Its a bit like the old wives tale of a swan being able to break your arm or leg, when you ask about it, no-one has ever heard of it happening.

 

[Jac Sprat]

Yes true!

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[swidy]

Ask for forgiveness, not permission is my motto

 

[GJH]

As others have said, assuming there is no covenant which prevents it (and would probably prevent even parking if it existed) it will be perfectly legal for you to spend the night in your van on your drive.

The circumstances are covered by Paragraph 1 of the First Schedule to the Caravan Sites and Control of Development Act 1960 which states that "A site licence shall not be required for the use of land as a caravan site if the use is incidental to the enjoyment as such of a dwellinghouse within the curtilage of which the land is situated."

Clearly, in your circumstances, trying out your new van is incidental to the enjoyment of your house. Go ahead and have a great night

 

[Chris]

I dunno.

Bought a van before measuring the drive

 

[bungy]

1. I Bought a van before measuring the drive

   

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I would report that as offensive if I didn't agree

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[pappajohn]

Yes you can....legally.

But there are restrictions involved, mainly stupid ones.

You CANNOT use the "facilities", shower, toilet etc
You CANNOT cook or eat in the van.

Basically you can sleep in it and thats it.
The rules say it can be used for overflow sleeping accomodation only, everything else has to be done in the house.

 

[Deleted member 29692]

Bit like your kids putting up a tent in the Garden, in the summer.

What do you mean in the summer?

Do you let yours inside the house in the winter then? Can't see that catching on

 

[rangi]

Present "them" with a "fait accompli" be most profuse with your apologies, smile nicely, "Oh Officer I do like men in uniform!"

You are only doing it for 1 night?- - 2?- - - 3? I honestly think you'll get away with it, more than likely get a reputation for being weird, but hey ho! It's your drive, your M/H,

go for it!

 

[Southdowners]

Go for it! - Who is going to know?

 

[GJH]

Yes you can....legally.

But there are restrictions involved, mainly stupid ones.

You CANNOT use the "facilities", shower, toilet etc
You CANNOT cook or eat in the van.

Basically you can sleep in it and thats it.
The rules say it can be used for overflow sleeping accomodation only, everything else has to be done in the house.

Where do you get that from John? The 1960 Act only talks of "human habitation" not different acts such as sleeping, cooking or using the facilities.

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[pappajohn]

Where do you get that from John? The 1960 Act only talks of "human habitation" not different acts such as sleeping, cooking or using the facilities.

It was from a recent post on here Graham.
The post contained a quote regarding this if memory serves correctly.

 

[Zigisla]

Easier to beg forgiveness than seek permission.

 

[GWG]

Yes you can....legally.

But there are restrictions involved, mainly stupid ones.

You CANNOT use the "facilities", shower, toilet etc
You CANNOT cook or eat in the van.

Basically you can sleep in it and thats it.
The rules say it can be used for overflow sleeping accomodation only, everything else has to be done in the house.[/QUOTE

Hi , be very interested to read any legislation that says what you Quote.
As I understand it, you can do what you want, on your own land. As long as it's not a permanent structure.
The restrictions you Quoted, apply in some Bye Laws relating to parking on a Public Road. But I doubt anyone in authority would be interested, even if anybody was small minded enough to complain.
Unless you turn up in a Group, advertising Gardening and Tarmac

 

[GWG]

Sorry my comment got hidden in the Quote on the last post

 

[pappajohn]

Sorry my comment got hidden in the Quote on the last post

See post #26 above.

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