Availability of General Mechanics or Engineers (1 Viewer)

Feb 22, 2016
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I don't know if I'm just unlucky but I seem unable to find professional what I call 'general' mechanics or engineers.

I can remember 20-30 years ago, if you went to my then VW mechanic (who'd worked on my 1968 12 Beetle for 15 years) he could not only carry out routine services and repairs but could tackle just about anything that needed doing. His training (which he explained including fitting and turning) allowed him to understand almost anything mechanical and could see how to fix things.
Over time, I became friendly with him and when you went to his home you could see all the work in progress. He only had to look at the problem and he'd figure out what the problem was and how to fix it.

Now we have a motorhome which is essentially a motor vehicle with a living space mounted on it. It is out of warranty now but even when it was under warranty, when there were problems (and there were a few) when the van was being looked at, the 'mechanic' would shake his head and say things like "nah-you need a new grundelwurp and they don't make them anymore....can't help you."

A case in point is the motorhome specialist charged with fixing my non-functioning habitation door lock. After he'd had the van for two days, I rang for a progress report. "Your actuator motor is knocked mate-I've got on order £380 plus fitting." After nearly three months waiting for the part (from Bailey) with no joy, I took the van back. I then found that the actuator motor was not only fine (there had been snapped wires where they entered the door) but that a replacement (a two wire actuator motor) was £4.98 from e*bay delivery the next day.

I still need to have the wires joined for a long term solution but have found,after enquiry, no one who takes on thIs kind of mechanical repair. My old mate is now retired and very ill so he's not available. I went through the yellow pages and rang listed: coach builders, fabricators, light engineers, mechanics, auto-electricians etc etc. Couldn't find one who was prepared to have a look at the problem and suggest solutions. I don't have enough confidence in my own skills to undertake the repair but I do know that there must be loads,of people like my old mate. They just don't seem to work anymore.

Hey ho. Rant over. As the ventilator shortage in the UK suggests, we're not the manufacturers we used to be. I fear that skill base is just disappearing.
 
Jun 29, 2015
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These days things are replaced not repaired. Very few engineers mend anything now and it's going to get worse
Can you train yourself with some.of the good videos on you tube?

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Feb 9, 2008
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Surely there is an Auto Electrician near you, our local guy will tackle anything electrical on a vehicle.
 

Silver-Fox

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I’m afraid generally most “mechanics” have turned into “technicians”

They plug a vehicle in the use the scatter gun parts approach.
Changing items until the problem goes away ?

It’s the way of the Country I’m afraid ?

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jollyrodger

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I don't know how far you are from Terry
I would have though right up his St .
Now if you live this end of the world and no plague around .....

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Ingwe
Feb 22, 2016
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Surely there is an Auto Electrician near you, our local guy will tackle anything electrical on a vehicle.
You’d think so. But when I rang round, one said he was so busy, he wouldn't even put me on a list. i find this hard to believe. The second said he’d damaged his wrist which was preventing him working and the third was honest enough to say, when describing the problem, that it wasn't the sort of work he wanted to do. im not saying there isn't a capable, willing auto -spark, just that i dont know where they are.
 

Ivory55

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I can understand the 3rd one. If there’s a choice between an easier job and a hard for the same sort of money, we would all take the easier job.
 
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Ingwe
Feb 22, 2016
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An easy DIY job. You bemoan the lack of tradespeople, yet you are unwilling to have a go yourself. A certain irony there.
“Easy” is in the eye of the doer. What’s easy for you may not be easy for me. I’m bemoaning a lack of skilled professional persons in the field i require.
i never said to a client, “yes there are only a few of us specialist insolvency lawyers about but hey, why don’t you give it a go yourself?”
I'm not looking for freebies. I’looking to pay an engineer to do what they fo for a living.

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MANGOFORTH

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Ok so I'm gonna show off a little ?.

Worked for this classic car garage as a panel fabricator. New mechanic guy was ex master tech for Bentley/volkswagen. I had a passat and the turbo (VGT) was playing up..... He said... "It's knackered get a new one" ....

Did some reading... Came to conclusion soot had built up inside and caused the veins to seize....

I took it off and stripped it down.
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Then cleaned it and put it back together...

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Only bloody fixed it didn't it ?

Master tech wv man said in all the years of working for vw, he'd never seen inside one of the turbos....

Little industrial estates have got the boys you want ?
 

Snowbird

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I am very fortunate that I have a man that can. He repairs just about everything I own including my chainsaw and log splitter. I will not allow anyone else to touch my vehicles as I trust him entirely. He builds hot rods and dragsters for fun, so most things I take him are quite mundane. He even rebuilt the chassis on my ageing pickup truck that had rotted through in places. It should now see me out. He works from a back street garage alone with little overheads and I always tip him for any work he does for me. Hopefully I will not require his services in the near future as he is self isolating in his garage building a model T hotrod pickup truck on a 70 year old Ford Pilot chassis with two V8 engines, one behind the other. I have got first refusal on it when finished.
 

bigtwin

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“Easy” is in the eye of the doer. What’s easy for you may not be easy for me. I’m bemoaning a lack of skilled professional persons in the field i require.

I think the term you’re looking for is “trades persons”.

I'm not looking for freebies. I’looking to pay an engineer to do what they fo for a living.

I think the term you’re looking for is “auto electrician”.

i never said to a client, “yes there are only a few of us specialist insolvency lawyers about but hey, why don’t you give it a go yourself?”.

Why not? I know plenty para-legals who’d give it a go and who could give ‘so called’ lawyers a run for their money! ?????

As a professional I’d have thought you’d have a little more respect for Engineers and wouldn’t take kindly to folks insulting your status/standing in society.

Ian

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Jun 8, 2019
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There was a post on your wire problem about 3 months ago. Have a search through old posts it was and easy fix. If you can tie your shoelaces you could do this I will look but I am sure there are those quicker than me.
 
Sep 23, 2007
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Engineers are the same. I’m fed up of interviewing “skilled engineers“ who when you push them on their ability know very little.
Ask them to sharpen a drill, erm no. Give them a Zeus book and ask them to give me a tapping size, puzzled look.. And if the micrometer or vernier isn’t digital they are clue less.
No idea of feeds and speeds on a machine tool.

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Jun 8, 2019
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Heat shield when using heat shrink solder sleeve.

Got it type above in search
 

bigtwin

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Engineers are the same. I’m fed up of interviewing “skilled engineers“ who when you push them on their ability know very little.
Ask them to sharpen a drill, erm no. Give them a Zeus book and ask them to give me a tapping size, puzzled look.. And if the micrometer or vernier isn’t digital they are clue less.
No idea of feeds and speeds on a machine tool.

Because you’re not looking for an Engineer, your looking for trained turners, fitters, mill wrights, etc.

But it seems, from what you’re saying, that even those purporting to have those skills, are lacking in the basics.

Ian
 
Jul 6, 2016
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Sometimes, I'm glad I've got a low-tech van. No central locking - just an old fashoned key with separate alarm.

However, there are plenty of other things to go wrong with the modern MH. I wouldn't particularly call myself a competent DIY'er but generally manage to fix things with the help of other Funsters and utube vids. The last thing I'd want to do is submit my van to a garage/dealer, unless absolutely necessary.

Now retired, I find it a challenge to learn new skills. This has come in useful, whilst on tour, to fix plumbing, fridge, electrics etc. Get to know your van - it's an overland vehicle and will inevitably have a few hiccups along the way, but with a bit of ingenuity, knowledge and basic DIY.....all things are possible ;)
 
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Ingwe
Feb 22, 2016
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I think the term you’re looking for is “trades persons”.



I think the term you’re looking for is “auto electrician”.



Why not? I know plenty para-legals who’d give it a go and who could give ‘so called’ lawyers a run for their money! ?????

As a professional I’d have thought you’d have a little more respect for Engineers and wouldn’t take kindly to folks insulting your status/standing in society.

Ian
Well, Ian, I've spent plenty of my professional time sorting out the cock-ups barrack room lawyers and some of those non-lawyers who think it's all a matter of common sense.
I'm not sure what part of my post you considered showed disrespect for Engineers but perhaps any such offended Engineers could write in or you could tell me.
Have a good evening.
 
Jul 29, 2007
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Because you’re not looking for an Engineer, your looking for trained turners, fitters, mill wrights, etc.

But it seems, from what you’re saying, that even those purporting to have those skills, are lacking in the basics.

Ian
Is anyone training them anymore? I finished in 71 as a fitter turner but all the engineering around here has gone, Ipswich College stopped engineering courses years ago and I expect its probably similar around the UK.

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Feb 19, 2017
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I think you are overthinking the problem, engineers have their uses and are particularly good at talking gobbledygook and making us mere mortals feel insignificant, if I was you I would do a google search for something like a mobile caravan repairer. We have the choice of two locally and they are usually very competent.
 
Jan 28, 2008
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Is anyone training them anymore? I finished in 71 as a fitter turner but all the engineering around here has gone, Ipswich College stopped engineering courses years ago and I expect its probably similar around the UK.
pointless training them if there's no work to go to once trained
 
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I must be lucky then, on the estate near me you can get anything done if you go to the right door.
I have had thwaites tractor bearing housings made, county crawler sprocket sets, and special counter sunk idiot proof drill bits made.
Some of it was turned from solid metal on a mill and lathe that is a lot older than me ! Infact they are 30 years older than the operator, but brilliant bits of machinery.

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