Anyone got a Carthago or Esterel

[laneside]

Just doing a bit of kite flying with a regard to swapping our Rapido that we have lived in for three years. For reasons of access to our private English aire I would really like a rear wheel drive instead of the flipping Fiat front wheel drive and I think if we had an automatic Lynda may consider driving it.

So far on my wish list is an Esterel on a Merc chassis and a Carthago with twin wheel Iveco chassis
Has anyone any experience of either of the above vans

 

[Sundowners]

Hi Alan
Don't discount N+B-- the flair is on Iveco chassis
Good luck with your hunt
Nigel & Pamala

 

[wiljoy]

Purchased a Carthago a couple of months ago but it's on the boring Fiat chassis. The van is so far living up to all expectations apart from the supplying dealer who is a run of the mill ex car sales tarmac guy. When are some dealers going to change there attitude to customers and realise we are future buyers.
The only difference in the vans is your requirement for rear wheel drive. The engines are mainly the same in Iveco and Fiat as you will know. Good luck with your search.

 

[JJ]

An Esterel was my "Dream" van for some time after seeing one at the NEC show a few years back...

Then, eventually, I checked the payloads of the various models...

No longer my Dream Van.

JJ

 

[laneside]

This is our summer aire back in Blighty and getting a front wheel drive Fiat in and out is a nightmare and involves tow ropes and FWD so hence the need for a RWD but I hear what JJ is saying as our present Rapido has been a nightmare regarding trying to keep within the weight limits

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[Judge Mental]

my 2013 X250 has traction + never been stuck yet

 

[laneside]

my 2013 X250 has traction + never been stuck yet

I will bet you £10 to a hay seed your front wheel drive will not get where that Rapido is parked in the picture without being towed there

 

[Judge Mental]

I will bet you £10 to a hay seed your front wheel drive will not get where that Rapido is parked in the picture without being towed there

How much?lol
where is it I will have a go!

 

[Techno]

@corconx Carol has an Esterel A Class for sale on Mercedes

 

[funflair]

I don't think you will find many Carthago RWD vans in the UK.

I second what Sundowner says about Niesman and Bischoff, the RWD ones are mostly on IVECO but a few Merc.

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[motor roamin]

Purely on a mechanical basis, the Iveco will be less trouble and much cheaper on repairs than the Merc, most Iveco chassis will also have a diff lock a real bonus in the gooey stuff, I looked at the carthego on an Iveco i think the gross weight was around 6.5 ton impressive, I have a 6.5ton Iveco truck at work very capable and reliable truck plenty of torque for the weight no idea about cruising speed as its governed to 56mph, just my two penneth hope it helps.

Cheers Rick

 

[laneside]

How much?lol
where is it I will have a go!

In see you are in sarth london you will need a visa to get up into them Todmorden hills

 

[martin2603]

A friend of ours has an RSM on an Iveco, will cruise at 70mph. I have a 6.5ton 180bhp Daily in Car Transporter form, tows a trailer up to 10ton excellent vehicle. Light loads 24mpg, fully freighted 20mpg.

 

[Wyaye wires]

How much?lol
where is it I will have a go!

Just give him the tenner and save the grief...

You won't do it...


I still have nightmares about the turn at the top...


The only way is rear wheel drive...

 

[Wyaye wires]

The NB we're going for Alan is LHD, rear wheel traction, diff lock, 3litre turbo charged Iveco with a gvw of 6.7 tonnes and automatic box...

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[laneside]

The NB we're going for Alan is LHD, rear wheel traction, diff lock, 3litre turbo charged Iveco with a gvw of 6.7 tonnes and automatic box...

That sounds the business, come and try the top car park and then I can make my mind up

 

[bobandjanie]

I will bet you £10 to a hay seed your front wheel drive will not get where that Rapido is parked in the picture without being towed there

Under normal conditions it might but your talking about Todmorden Alan.
We no longer have the umbrella smile. Bob.

 

[Wyaye wires]

We may do on the way home from Chester...

Will you give me the tenner then???

 

[Granjan]

This is our summer aire back in Blighty and getting a front wheel drive Fiat in and out is a nightmare and involves tow ropes and FWD so hence the need for a RWD but I hear what JJ is saying as our present Rapido has been a nightmare regarding trying to keep within the weight limits

It cant be its not raining! .... Always rains in Tod!

 

[Gorse Hill]

my 2013 X250 has traction + never been stuck yet

Have you ever parked it on grass, I have the same I think (2013 model) and been stuck a few times and once on what the site had said was hard standing (grass with mot below) only s couple of weeks ago

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[Judge Mental]

Yes, so far it's been OK..but its a PVC so not so big....

 

[Wyaye wires]

That sounds the business, come and try the top car park and then I can make my mind up

The only issue may be one of length, Alan...

Kath mentioned that at 9 metres it could be too tight with the turn...

 

[laneside]

The only issue may be one of length, Alan...

Kath mentioned that at 9 metres it could be too tight with the turn...

I guess even at 6 metres that corner will still be a challenge Howie