All getting a little bit silly...

[Paul Wilkins]

Ok foolish thought number one. I'm intending to get back into Germany for a couple of weeks touring in September or at least I was until all this French Amber Plus nonsense reared it's head. Its all getting a bit 'Monty Python'. Moving clothes to the lower peg, if you're getting your haircut etc etc
So the civil servants in the Dept of Transport are saying that if you have visited France in the 10 days prior to your return to the UK then you must present a PCR test result taken within the previous 48 hours. You then have to have ordered your 2 and 8 day testing kit from a company attached to Le Shuttle and prove you've pre-ordered them.

BUT

What if you leave Germany in the morning, travel non-stop through France and stop only at the Tunnel terminal (on the UK holding side). If you haven't set foot in France why are you forced to go through all that nonsense?? If you fly from Germany to the UK (over France) then that's OK..

Its all getting a bit of a pain in the ...neck

 

[glenn2926]

What if you leave Germany in the morning, travel non-stop through France and stop only at the Tunnel terminal (on the UK holding side). If you haven't set foot in France why are you forced to go through all that nonsense?? If you fly from Germany to the UK (over France) then that's OK..

That’s exactly what we did last year. If it worked them I think it should now.

 

[gus-lopez]

It is now specifically excluded. It states it on the gov. UK site. Only direct method is eurostar from Belgium

 

[Paul Wilkins]

That’s exactly what we did last year. If it worked them I think it should now.

Likewise.. both there and back

 

[Paul Wilkins]

It is now specifically excluded. It states it on the gov. UK site. Only direct method is eurostar from Belgium

But even THAT travels non-stop THROUGH France.

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[Landy Andy]

You are NOT allowed to ‘transit’ France this time. We looked into it before leaving yesterday. Last time ok, but not this time.

 

[gus-lopez]

But even THAT travels non-stop THROUGH France.

Yes but you get on in BELGIUM & off In London. The side stepping route used last year by driving through France has been stopped. If you have been IN france even without getting out you have to quarantine.
I assume they got fed up woth the loophole

 

[Jonny1953]

Ok foolish thought number one. I'm intending to get back into Germany for a couple of weeks touring in September or at least I was until all this French Amber Plus nonsense reared it's head. Its all getting a bit 'Monty Python'. Moving clothes to the lower peg, if you're getting your haircut etc etc
So the civil servants in the Dept of Transport are saying that if you have visited France in the 10 days prior to your return to the UK then you must present a PCR test result taken within the previous 48 hours. You then have to have ordered your 2 and 8 day testing kit from a company attached to Le Shuttle and prove you've pre-ordered them.

You also have to self isolate for 10 days, but nothing has changed as return from France has been like this for quite a while now, the only thing that has changed is with return from other countries not requiring 10 days isolating if you are double jabbed

 

[Paul Wilkins]

Its garbage! Its no more than 34 miles from Calais to the Belgian border. I'm going to write to my MP in the morning

 

[busby]

That’s exactly what we did last year. If it worked them I think it should now.

Same here but don't think it's allowed this time.BUSBY.

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[DBK]

Its garbage! Its no more than 34 miles from Calais to the Belgian border. I'm going to write to my MP in the morning

You are missing the point entirely. You say you are going to cross France non-stop but how do the authorities know this is what you have done without looking at phone records or say receipts, all of which could be faked?

The Eurostar passenger has a ticket in their name saying when they boarded in Belgium.

If they start manning all the frontier posts in the countries you are transiting and get your passport stamped your scheme might fly - but they haven't and it won't.

Have a look at crossings to Belgium or the Netherlands instead but don't hold your breath. Cases in this country are expected to increase markedly by September and you may not be allowed to cross into mainland Europe as no one will want us.

 

[Brains]

Travel with Stena
Harwich/Hook of Holland - always our preferred route to Germany in any case.

Get the overnight one and you can be in Dusseldorf for a late breakfast.

 

[Paul Wilkins]

You are missing the point entirely. You say you are going to cross France non-stop but how do the authorities know this is what you have done without looking at phone records or say receipts, all of which could be faked?

The Eurostar passenger has a ticket in their name saying when they boarded in Belgium.

If they start manning all the frontier posts in the countries you are transiting and get your passport stamped your scheme might fly - but they haven't and it won't.

Have a look at crossings to Belgium or the Netherlands instead but don't hold your breath. Cases in this country are expected to increase markedly by September and you may not be allowed to cross into mainland Europe as no one will want us.

It didn't seem to be a problem for the Authorities last year when I had to transit Luxembourg , Belgium & France non-stop last year because they were all on the naughty step, but Germany wasn't. I can't see this time its any different, in fact its only a 34 mile stretch of non-stop motorway in one country that is the problem. Its bureaucratic BS.

As for the NHS tests not being 'good enough' is another profiteering racket that needs looking at. I'll bet they use NHS tests for testing their staff every day.

 

[Paul Wilkins]

Travel with Stena
Harwich/Hook of Holland - always our preferred route to Germany in any case.

Get the overnight one and you can be in Dusseldorf for a late breakfast.

Bit more pricey I would image tho?

 

[Sapper520]

This is how silly things can be…….

On Saturday (if The Netherlands don’t go into the Red group) my son is flying in to Bristol. He’ll have had the PCR done in The Netherlands that covers you for 72 hours.

I’m meeting him in the carpark to hand over is newly purchased car, which he is driving straight back to The Netherlands via the Tunnel (All booked).

He will only be in the country for several hours, but he’s still had to book his day two tests etc in order to comply with travel rules.

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[ElliesBoss]

If they start manning all the frontier posts in the countries you are transiting and get your passport stamped your scheme might fly - but they haven't and it won't.

Playing devil"s advocate. Could I fly to Belgium, visit a friend in Lille and fly back from Belgium?

 

[Paul Wilkins]

Playing devil"s advocate. Could I fly to Belgium, visit a friend in Lille and fly back from Belgium?

Yes you could.. I believe there is a '24 hour' rule between EU countries.

 

[gus-lopez]

This is how silly things can be…….

On Saturday (if The Netherlands don’t go into the Red group) my son is flying in to Bristol. He’ll have had the PCR done in The Netherlands that covers you for 72 hours.

I’m meeting him in the carpark to hand over is newly purchased car, which he is driving straight back to The Netherlands via the Tunnel (All booked).

He will only be in the country for several hours, but he’s still had to book his day two tests etc in order to comply with travel rules.

Yes,all nonsense. Don't forget to reclaim the cost as not required

Playing devil"s advocate. Could I fly to Belgium, visit a friend in Lille and fly back from Belgium?

Only if uou can answer the question "I have not been in france in last 10 day's "

 

[Paul Wilkins]

Still.. I expect it will all change again next week.

I'm sure the European continent is looking 'Petri Dish UK' and will soon bar anyone coming into any country.

 

[Brains]

Bit more pricey I would image tho?

The Harwich/Hook of Holland route is not as much as you would expect when you take the extra fuel and driving hours from Calais into account.

For us we found we could work normally on a Friday, catch the overnight ferry, and be in Germany for breakfast, and you could be in Berlin in time for Saturday night.

That is not possible from Calais.

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[Sapper520]

The Harwich/Hook of Holland route is not as much as you would expect when you take the extra fuel and driving hours from Calais into account.

For us we found we could work normally on a Friday, catch the overnight ferry, and be in Germany for breakfast, and you could be in Berlin in time for Saturday night.

That is not possible from Calais.

If you do the daytime crossing, then find a park up not far from Hoek, it can work out to be a cheaper option……especially if travelling from The North.

We used to use Harwich to Hoek regularly in the car. Sometimes overnight out, then the afternoon for return. Travelling for those sailings made our drive from Somerset easy.

 

[Paul Wilkins]

If you do the daytime crossing, then find a park up not far from Hoek, it can work out to be a cheaper option……especially if travelling from The North.

We used to use Harwich to Hoek regularly in the car. Sometimes overnight out, then the afternoon for return. Travelling for those sailings made our drive from Somerset easy.

Slight problem.. Holland ain't letting anyone in

 

[gus-lopez]

The Harwich/Hook of Holland

When I checked recently to travel in to the Uk there was hardly any difference between the fare from dunkirk to Dover

 

[Sapper520]

Slight problem.. Holland ain't letting anyone in

He lives / works there…..so he’s fine. Flying Amsterdam to Bristol, booked on the Tunnel later in the day to drive back.

He’s done all the ‘hoop jumping’ to ensure he is safe to travel both ways.


Sorry, just re-read….I know that, I was talking about future travel.

 

[Brains]

Slight problem.. Holland ain't letting anyone in

In that case I bet you can get excellent rates right now!
The good thing is Stena let you move the booking as many times as you like

(We booked in 2019 for a April 2020 crossing, which due to the ongoing pandemic has been moved on, and on again, and again and again, and is now booked for 2022, at the 2019 rates)

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