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This is a very clear guide by Techno100If you have a search you will find a DIY guide in picture. I think it was done by Andy @Techno100
Seen a recent post here that said somebody had got all the kit including compressor and gauges for less than £500.
Thank you but as I said it is not an Alko chassisThis is a very clear guide by Techno100
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If you run them without air, they will split, that's why Dunlop won't sell you a system without gauges and a compressor any more, it makes a huge difference to the handing on my alko, and it's essential when I've got the scoot on the back
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Can I buy your gauges???I've got gauges, that's how I know there's no air in 'em. When I find the time I'll take take 'em off and save some weight.
Let me know when you do and I will take it all your hands for you.When I find the time I'll take take 'em off and save some weight.
You cant have the gauges.Let me know when you do and I will take it all your hands for you.
Well they are split if you've run them empty for so long, although yours (air ride) are on a van (leaf sprung) chassis not an alko chassis, so hard for you to comment on their effects on an alko
A lot of people (self included) have fitted Air assist to the rear suspension in order to uprate the payload. A benefit is an improved ride. The air bags directly replace the rubber cones on a standard or camper chassis so if you simply run without air or remove them then you are taking a risk. However, it seems that you know what you are doing and it is your van so quite welcome to wreck the suspension. Are you sure it wasn't fitted as a part of a weight upgrade?I'm sure the principle is the same whatever the chassis. With proper weight distribution a 'standard' vehicle should handle the way it was designed without resorting to add-on gadgets. If a vehicle feels unstable because of a non-standard load, like a motorcycle on a rear carrier for example creating a 'pendulum effect', then I would suggest that set up is not fit for purpose.
I know it's a common arrangement, (and I am a very experienced motorcyclist so am sympathetic) but when I see overloaded vans 'shimmying ' down the road it fair gives me the collywobbles.
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Disagree when driving home with my van having just purchased it at 65/70 going past trucks it swayed all over the place (empty van so in theory should be ideally loaded as designed by the manufactures ) having Air Suspension fitted IMO made a huge difference to the driving experienceI prefer the handling without any wind in mine, thorough waste of time in my opinion. I don't understand why people think that adding two bags of air can improve on a properly engineered suspension system.
Careful distribution of loads within the vehicles capability will be much more beneficial.
Improved springs and dampers - yes!
Air bags - no!
That's wot I fink anyway
A lot of people (self included) have fitted Air assist to the rear suspension in order to uprate the payload. A benefit is an improved ride. The air bags directly replace the rubber cones on a standard or camper chassis so if you simply run without air or remove them then you are taking a risk. However, it seems that you know what you are doing and it is your van so quite welcome to wreck the suspension. Are you sure it wasn't fitted as a part of a weight upgrade?
SV tech and other real experts would doubtless not agree with your point of view......
Cost and weight, it definitely made a difference to the drive for meThanks for the reminder about the cones/bump stops.
Sorry if I gave the impression that I know what I'm doing!
T'wasn't fitted as a weight upgrade.
Of course 'experts' wouldn't agree with me, they are anxious to sell their gadgets. I would welcome a chat with a genuine 'expert' in this field (salesmen are rarely expert).
It used to be part of my work to liaise with 'experts' regarding the claims made for their products and processes.
Be very wary of anything that is mostly marketed at show grounds.
If a product or system really improves a vehicle so much why dos'nt the vehicle manufacturer incorporate it into their product?
If a simple product improves handling so much, why don't racing teams use a version of it?
The airbags you refer to replace a part of the suspension system to improve the ride plus allow for weight upgrade. Not usually needed on a builders van which is why it isn't there in the first place and these vehicles are built down to cost. Heavily loaded motorhomes running at or near payload limit benefit from such a system at the rear. Less so at the front but I'm considering VB springs to improve the ride at the front as well.Thanks for the reminder about the cones/bump stops.
Sorry if I gave the impression that I know what I'm doing!
T'wasn't fitted as a weight upgrade.
Of course 'experts' wouldn't agree with me, they are anxious to sell their gadgets. I would welcome a chat with a genuine 'expert' in this field (salesmen are rarely expert).
It used to be part of my work to liaise with 'experts' regarding the claims made for their products and processes.
Be very wary of anything that is mostly marketed at show grounds.
If a product or system really improves a vehicle so much why dos'nt the vehicle manufacturer incorporate it into their product?
If a simple product improves handling so much, why don't racing teams use a version of it?
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Goldschmitt fit a spring upgrade to Hymers nowadays and I think it can be specified new as well to greatly improve ride comfort from the heavily loaded suspension. I was looking at VB comfort springs on the front - cheaper than Goldschmitt.If Airbags are not worth having, how come a company such as Goldsmit do airbag kits. Just a thought and I don't have airbags on my motorhome
I am not sure that 3" more ride height would upset the handling that much of a 3.5 ton "brick", but I am happy to be corrected with some good reasons. Also is there any recommended ride height from Fiat, as I have not been able to find any in my motorhome's info.Pumping them up has raised the rear of the van by 75mm taking the ride height well over that recommended by Fiat. That in itself is enough to upset the handling and how many owners are capable of re-setting a vehicle ride height?
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