I think these are more typical and look more robust.
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Many do break the law here in France frequently by not registering their vehicles and driving around still with number plates of their former country.So. Was it a ‘wiz bang idea’ to get around the A frame rules in France by fitting one to a 2CV due to its low weight (below 750kgs including the frame)?
NO.
Could you get away with it, as many do? Well. Do you knowingly break the law regularly in the UK in any way? If not, why would you knowingly break the law in France
I’d agree you’d probably rip it out of the car first!30x30x3mm Tony, now don't be silly it obvious you have never seen how the crossmember is attached to the front of a car, in an extremely unlikely jackknife situation it would simply tear out of the front of the car leaving the box undamaged.
Have a look at all the professional ones made in the states, no one uses anything stronger and they don't seem to have a problem.
A frames are different to drawbars as they don't have to bear part of the weight of the trailer so don't need to be so strong, and trailers have to be designed as you know for numpty's loading them badly, putting excessive weight on the drawbar and towing vehicle, as we see with caravans all the time.
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. It wasn’t me!No brakes by the look and I would say over 750kg, so no surprise it jackknifed, bad driving on your part. There's no way the under 1 ton Alto is going to push my 9.25ton RV anywhere.
I know I first commented on the size of your ‘A’ frame but actually, when it came to jackknifing, the biggest issue was usually with the draw tube in the coupling bending. Bearing in mind that’s around 50mm ext diameter and up to 10mm thick wall, that’s a LOT of stress. The problem then was that having sorted the jackknife, the driver carries on his way and first time he braked fairly hard, the draw tube compresses... and jams... locking the brakes on.... I’ve seen that a good few times on caravans And it happened occasionally on my trailer hire fleet..... It wasn’t me!
the coupling etc has been removed, brakes are disconnected....
The problem will be when your 9.25 ton RV is pushing the under 1 tonne Alto sideways!
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I thought Alto's were more reliable than that!!The only way I will be pushing the Alto is with my hands.
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You're on the wrong side of the road & someone has dumped a genny behind the toad .View attachment 430978
This came on Facebook memories 12 years ago in France, our first motorhome and toad with a car a tow a frame, the memories we have is all the germans taking lots of interest in it and how it worked the engineer coming out of them. Bob.
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But surely its rediculous to add the estimated weight of four passengers to the gross weight of the towed car, when it is illegal everywhere to tow a vehicle containing passengers.OK... gross weight is the fully possible laden weight with four people in the car plus any luggage
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As usual, I don't understand your comment. The total weight of a 2CV is 600kg, the A frame will not be more than a 100kg so what is you point on that please?
Please clarify.
The maximum Gross weight (or Maximum Authorised Mass, if you prefer) is the figure shown on the vehicles VIN plate. The kerb weight or unladen weight is irrelevant as far as braking regulations are concerned.But surely its rediculous to add the estimated weight of four passengers to the gross weight of the towed car, when it is illegal everywhere to tow a vehicle containing passengers.