180 days in Portugal?

[miklin]

I saw this on a site called Dispatches (yes. That's how they spell it)

"Most EU countries have already confirmed they will allow UK nationals to enter and remain for up to 90 days without a tourist visa. In Portugal it is 180 days, and Spain looks to be following suit."

Has anyone else seen anything about this?

Here is the link to the site:

No deal, no problem Pt. 1: More EU countries guarantee British expats post-Brexit grace periods

(Editor’s note: We’ve broken up the original “No deal, no problem” post into two parts so it will load faster. This post, which replaces the original “No deal, no problem,” has countries listed alphabetically, Austria through Latvia. You can see Pt. 2 here, which includes Luxembourg to...

dispatcheseurope.com

 

[Lucky]

Very interesting, thanks for sharing

 

[Phill D]

not seen that but if Portugal has 180 and the rest have 90 in any 180 unless you fly direct how does it work?

 

[Phill D]

sorry just read a bit of it and it refers to expats..

 

[Podney]

No. Probably nonsense.

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[gus-lopez]

not seen that but if Portugal has 180 and the rest have 90 in any 180 unless you fly direct how does it work?

sorry just read a bit of it and it refers to expats..

No ,the 180 days in Portgal is for tourists, Expats live there & have no time limit.

 

[Manxcat]

Portugal and Spain have both signed up to the Schengen rules. They can't just ignore them.

 

[Phill D]

Even if they had agreed 180 days unless you fly direct you will still need to transit France with a 90 in 180 day rule. Can't see how that would work.
But hey let's just wait for real time information.

 

[JJ]

Portugal and Spain have both signed up to the Schengen rules. They can't just ignore them.

Really?

JJ

 

[Camdoon]

Portugal and Spain have both signed up to the Schengen rules. They can't just ignore them.

It took the French about 2 minutes to declare a national emergency and close their borders this year. Most rules have a work around if you want it. How would the French know whether you had spent the time in Gibraltar.

I would imagine that the French would either allow Brits to cross or we can expect a large rise in ferries that sail to Spain.

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[BreweryDave]

First I’ve heard of ‘tourists’ being allowed 180 days in one hit.

Ive shared the link with the ‘official’ group in Portugal querying the truth of it......I’ll let you know the answer

 

[busby]

Even if they had agreed 180 days unless you fly direct you will still need to transit France with a 90 in 180 day rule. Can't see how that would work.
But hey let's just wait for real time information.

If Spain do the same then you can use Bilbao to UK. BUSBY.

 

[BreweryDave]

Update.......simply put, its WRONG

 

[Speve]

First I’ve heard of ‘tourists’ being allowed 180 days in one hit.

From the article.
Most EU countries have already confirmed they will allow UK nationals to enter and remain for up to 90 days without a tourist visa. In Portugal it is 180 days, and Spain looks to be following suit.

 

[Rob Hammond]

Are they all not supposed to abide by the rules ?

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[Speve]

Are they all not supposed to abide by the rules ?

They might be supposed to but it seems to be go with what suits them best I’ve no complaints if they dont

 

[Tykatem]

It took the French about 2 minutes to declare a national emergency and close their borders this year. Most rules have a work around if you want it. How would the French know whether you had spent the time in Gibraltar.

I would imagine that the French would either allow Brits to cross or we can expect a large rise in ferries that sail to Spain.

First thing that you should know, is that an overstayed visa never goes unnoticed. The immigration authorities have registered in their databases every person that enters and leaves the Schengen, and every overstaying, even just for a day, is recorded.
Secondly, intentional or unintentional, no overstaying is left unpunished. It could be a fine, immediate deportation or even getting banned from entering the Schengen Zone for a specific amount of time.
Finally, yet importantly, it does not matter if you have entered Schengen territory on a Schengen Visa, or if you are the national of a country, to which a visa waiver has been applied. You are not allowed to overstay the 90 days amount of permitted stay per 180 days, even if you belong to one of the latter. It does not also matter if you are overstaying a Schengen tourist visa or you are overstaying a student visa. There is a visa overstaying penalty for each, and if you do such thing, you will get yours.

What Are the Consequences of Overstaying in the Schengen Area?

Getting a Schengen Visa is never easy. There are a lot of documents you will need to collect and requirements you must meet. There is the interview and then the wait for visa processing. However, once you get the visa, you feel rewarded and convinced everything was worth it. To many, the 90-day...

www.schengenvisainfo.com

Pete

 

[gus-lopez]

They can't just ignore them.

Are they all not supposed to abide by the rules ?

Most ignore or alter many rules contrary to EU directives.
Both France & the UK are guilty of muddying the residency rules illegally.

 

[Camdoon]

First thing that you should know, is that an overstayed visa never goes unnoticed. The immigration authorities have registered in their databases every person that enters and leaves the Schengen, and every overstaying, even just for a day, is recorded.
Secondly, intentional or unintentional, no overstaying is left unpunished. It could be a fine, immediate deportation or even getting banned from entering the Schengen Zone for a specific amount of time.
Finally, yet importantly, it does not matter if you have entered Schengen territory on a Schengen Visa, or if you are the national of a country, to which a visa waiver has been applied. You are not allowed to overstay the 90 days amount of permitted stay per 180 days, even if you belong to one of the latter. It does not also matter if you are overstaying a Schengen tourist visa or you are overstaying a student visa. There is a visa overstaying penalty for each, and if you do such thing, you will get yours.

What Are the Consequences of Overstaying in the Schengen Area?

Getting a Schengen Visa is never easy. There are a lot of documents you will need to collect and requirements you must meet. There is the interview and then the wait for visa processing. However, once you get the visa, you feel rewarded and convinced everything was worth it. To many, the 90-day...

www.schengenvisainfo.com

Pete

If any of that was true then why are there so many unregistered people kicking about France. It would save the British tax payer millions being able to send them back.

"There is a visa overstaying penalty for each, and if you do such thing, you will get yours."
That phrase must be somebody having a giraffe at foreigners.

 

[BreweryDave]

From the article.
Most EU countries have already confirmed they will allow UK nationals to enter and remain for up to 90 days without a tourist visa. In Portugal it is 180 days, and Spain looks to be following suit.

See post #13

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[Coolcats]

It took the French about 2 minutes to declare a national emergency and close their borders this year. Most rules have a work around if you want it. How would the French know whether you had spent the time in Gibraltar.

I would imagine that the French would either allow Brits to cross or we can expect a large rise in ferries that sail to Spain.

If Spain does not assimilate Gibraltar then there will be a border and everything that goes with it.

 

[Speve]

See post #13

Thanks mate false news then? there are so many tales doing the rounds

 

[Hymerbell]

First thing that you should know, is that an overstayed visa never goes unnoticed. The immigration authorities have registered in their databases every person that enters and leaves the Schengen, and every overstaying, even just for a day, is recorded.
Secondly, intentional or unintentional, no overstaying is left unpunished. It could be a fine, immediate deportation or even getting banned from entering the Schengen Zone for a specific amount of time.
Finally, yet importantly, it does not matter if you have entered Schengen territory on a Schengen Visa, or if you are the national of a country, to which a visa waiver has been applied. You are not allowed to overstay the 90 days amount of permitted stay per 180 days, even if you belong to one of the latter. It does not also matter if you are overstaying a Schengen tourist visa or you are overstaying a student visa. There is a visa overstaying penalty for each, and if you do such thing, you will get yours.

What Are the Consequences of Overstaying in the Schengen Area?

Getting a Schengen Visa is never easy. There are a lot of documents you will need to collect and requirements you must meet. There is the interview and then the wait for visa processing. However, once you get the visa, you feel rewarded and convinced everything was worth it. To many, the 90-day...

www.schengenvisainfo.com

Pete

Your avatar says it all....Remoaners never die.....they don’t even fade away ! They’ll have to come to terms with it one day though...otherwise they’ll lead a bitter and twisted existence for the rest of their lives....poor buggers.

 

[Lenny HB]

First thing that you should know, is that an overstayed visa never goes unnoticed. The immigration authorities have registered in their databases every person that enters and leaves the Schengen, and every overstaying, even just for a day, is recorded.

How do they do that then 2 or 3 times in the last couple of years I've been waved through the passport check without having to hand my passport over.

 

[2657]

How do they do that then 2 or 3 times in the last couple of years I've been waved through the passport check without having to hand my passport over.

That's the way it was in those days.....The times they are a changing

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[Lenny HB]

That's the way it was in those days.....The times they are a changing

I'm talking about recently not in the long distant past.

 

[2657]

I'm talking about recently not in the long distant past.

Anything before the 31st December 2020 will count as the past whether recent or long distant, things are about to change ........it's what we voted for!

 

[nicholsong]

How do they do that then 2 or 3 times in the last couple of years I've been waved through the passport check without having to hand my passport over.

Because until the end of the Transition period UK Citizens have right of free movement.

The clock for 90 days in 180 days in Schengen will only start on 1st Jan 2021

 

[EuroTrotters]

Really?

JJ

Think Hungary !

 

[Hymerbell]

Anything before the 31st December 2020 will count as the past whether recent or long distant, things are about to change ........it's what we voted for!

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