Globecar Motorhomes ?

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  1. scotjimland

    scotjimland Funster Life Member

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    Our next and probably last van will be a PVC.

    I was considering a home build and love how Terry has done his.. his workmanship is 1st Class and he kindly offered to help me to build one.. .. going as far as offering to let us stay at his house during conversion.. .. thanks Terry .. a most generous and kind offer..

    However.. come retirement, we will have more funds available than we first thought.. an old SSEB (Now Scottish Power) pension I had long forgotten about, taken out in 1979 .. has reared it's head and will provide additional funds for a nice PVC... :Smile:

    I have looked at IH.. Murvi, Timberland, Vectra and a few others.. then I stumbled on Globecar.. (they don't have their own forum or I would have posted there..) they certainly tick all boxes.. does anyone have one ?
    http://www.globecarmotorhomes.com/

    But this is an open question.. who does build the best PVC (apart from Terry) ?

    tell me about yours, warts and all..
     
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  2. canopus

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    I think Globecar are actually made in Germany by Possl who may have some tie up with Dethleff though can't be sure

    http://www.poessl-mobile.de/english/.

    Not sure why they are marketed in UK as Globecar but hey ho.

    We looked round one at Premium Motorhomes in Doncaster and were amazed at the build quality and innovative layouts :thumb:
     
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    I was at the Newbury show and was VERY impressed by Shire Conversions in West Yorkshire :thumb:

    There was so much space in their layouts and the fittings were absolutely first class. Added to this, they were such nice people who were very keen to make any individual modifications that you may wish.

    Well worth checking them out. :BigGrin:
     
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    Mousy Funster Life Member

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    I spent a year researching PVCs and our favourite by far was Vantage motorhomes in Leeds. Lovely people, lovely vans but sadly not a lovely price! However, if it's a quality van you are after they would be hard to beat.

    http://www.vantagemotorhomes.co.uk/#hide-popup

    Think there are a few owners on this forum.
     
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  5. gozomike

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    I have looked at most of the van conversions available over the last couple of years with a view to changing my MH. There are some good ones mentioned by others but I also looked at Murvi http://www.murvi.co.uk/ who do some nice conversions then I settled on a Wildax http://www.wildaxmotorhomes.com/


    One of the things that put me off some of the mainline converters was the poor storage due to heaters, batteries & unprotected air pipes being in the main cupboards. I think the smaller converters have thought this out, probably because they actually use them themselves.
     
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    Jim

    I must admit I like the Globescouts very much, I think there was someone at Peterborough that had one, and it had lots of good design ideas.

    I have also like the Wildaxs too, I have several friends that have them too, although they had a few teething problems with theres, but only small things.

    The only downside is the bed against the back doors, it can be a cold spot, there are some that fill in the back bit or half filling it with storage bunkers that help some of the draughts, plus also sliding doors can be a bit colder too.

    However the compromise far outweighs the negatives, the plus is parking is easier and depending on the length can be used as another form of transport.

    Good luck in your quest.

    Pat
     
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    When looking for a pvc Globecar was our favourite (the familyscout L) but unfortuntately we couldn't stretch to new prices and secondhand Globecars are very thin on the ground (apart from the Trendscout, but that didn't meet our fixed bed requirement).

    So we ended up with a secondhand Adria Twin which we are happy with, though ultimately we'd still like the familyscout just to give a bit more room up front and a bigger shower area.
     
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    Globecar

    We have had a Globecar campscout 636 bought it new three and a half years ago the dealer at that time was Allan Kerr in Devon build quality great no problems there were three globe cars parked with fun steers at chester you won't go wrong very pleased with it.:thumb:
     
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  9. scotjimland

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    PVC Pros - Cons.

    Just my thinking, not everyone will agree or have our priorities.

    Please copy paste and add or comment.

    Panel Van Conversion Pros and Cons

    Pros

    Solid body construction, no leaks or rot.
    Can be used every day.
    Can go virtually anywhere a car can
    Lower ferry and toll prices
    Better fuel consumption
    Better for wild camping
    Easier to find parking places.
    Better for long trips.
    Better security.. no flimsy hab door.
    Will be used more often.
    Less obtrusive on drive

    Cons
    Less living space, but tent or awning can be used for longer stays
    Less storage space, but if required our small trailer can be used for long trips.
    Smaller toilet and shower.. go on diet
    Smaller kitchen.

    Some points are subjective.:Smile:
     
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    If you are critical enough you can find things you do not like or think poor on any van you buy ready built, if I was to give advice I would seriously consider Terry building exactly what I wanted in a van I sourced myself .
    A layout designed by you for you in a van of your choice by someone who cares about getting it right. The problem is a lot of what goes into a van is not seen when finished and having looked at lots I ended up with IH I am on my second are they good yes, are they worth the money ? well to answer that I would say get Terry to build you one better and a lot cheaper:thumb:
     
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    Hi Jim I am 99% sure Globecar are part of the Hymer family of vans ---
    the offer still stands :Wink::thumb:
    A well converted van may not have the name but will always hold a good price--plus it won't have cost you 45k :Wink:There are things I would do differently if the van was for myself,the layout for one :thumb: but the size of the transit would just not let me do what I wanted unless I settled for a 5' 9" bed :Rofl1: I just could not bring myself to do the 5'9" bed hence the layout I ended up with, or I could have Incorporated the front seats as part of the bed -again not for my liking.Just how many Transits do you see with a traverse bed (all 5'9") loads :Eeek:In my mind OK for the odd nights or for small people but for me never:Smile:
    IH AND TIMBERLAND START AT NEAR TO 55K -With your input I bet that we could do a carbon copy for closer to 35k or a good bit less. :BigGrin: food for thought Jim :Smile: and it would be better screwed together by someone who cares about his own van IE you :BigGrin:
    terry
    edit I don't remember who but if you read the Terry's self build transit thread again someone gave a link to a small converter in Leeds that looked very well made
     
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    see the above edit Jim :Wink:
     
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    scotjimland Funster Life Member

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    Thanks Terry .. :thumb:

    which van would you choose to do a conversion on .... money no object?

    My thinking is this, I know you can save money on a van by buying a bit older, .. but I want a new or very low millage .. so how much for the base vehicle of your choice. ?


    Your EDIT..Vantage Motorhomes ?
     
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    Depends on the layout & converter - Wildax & Vantage for example generally have a bigger kitchen than many coach builds.

    Both will convert on a second hand van.
     
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    Money no object I would still make my own :thumb:
    My own next van will be either another Ambulance (mileage etc does not bother me provided all the running gear is good) or a new LWB HR van at around 15/17k from the Fiat,pug Citroen stable simply for there size which in turn would allow me my desired layout :thumb:After that Iveco (got a soft spot for them) Merc sprinter /VW crafter but too expensive new next comes the Master's family then the Transit's--MY WHOLE THEORY BEHIND THESE WOULD BE TO KEEP THEM FOR A COUPLE OF YRS AND SELL THEM ON AT A PROFIT :thumb:--After keeping my ambulance for coming up 8 yrs I may well have to take a small loss come sale time but I hope not a big one :Wink:IF I had had my way we would have sold her about 5 yrs ago when I know for sure I would have made a profit simply because I was offered quite a bit more than it cost me :BigGrin:
    My self and Paul firmly believe we could do a conversion in less than 3 weeks but unfortunate he is now working 5 days so he only gets weekends hence 5 weeks on the transit --it's a lot harder working on your own plus I miss all the falling out/banter :Eeek::BigGrin:
    terry
     
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    We've looked at and researched PVCs; and Globecar / Possl headed our shortlist.

    We are particularly keen to have a compact van with either an island bed or twin singles. The 'compact' bit is the difficult/impossible challenge to achieve.

    One of the Globecars has the layout, which is either twin singles or one giant double - which would be fine. Problem is it's 6.4m long, and we'd really like to stick with 6m max.

    Things I particularly like are:

    • German quality from a top brand
    • Overall thoughtfully designed pretty much throughout
    • The bathroom layout makes clever use of space and is a decent size
    • All current models have electric closing on the large side door (no need to slam it)
    • All current models have large fly-screens on the side door
    • There is a local franchised dealer in Bristol, where we live
    • It may be possible to get one on a Citroen base (rather than Fiat) if factory ordered
    • Reasonably priced (not cheap, but also not outrageously expensive)
    I want a semi-automatic gearbox, so would almost certainly have to order one. Might hang on until the latest 2014 updated X250 is available.



    The jury is still out, but very tempted. :thumb:



    Mike
     
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    I have a Globecar Campscout.

    It chose itself. It was the only vehicle that came close to ticking all our 'must have' boxes. That doesn't mean to say it would suit you, or anybody else.

    On the general front, it is a good quality conversion. It is made in the Dethleffs factory. Innovative use of space, especially the shower arrangement. Usual continental cooking arrangements - basic two burner hob only, not even with piezo ignition. An oven is dealer fit option, although I think may now be on the factory options list too. It is also short on both 12 & 230v sockets compared to a UK van, but the 12v system is much better than the average UK van & extra sockets are easy enough.

    Insulation & heating are excellent. We also have the winterisation pack, with additional rear door insulation & a heater for the underfloor waste tank (the 100lt fresh tank is inboard).

    As to why it suited us: my wife uses an electric wheelchair to move anything more than a couple of steps outside the van. She has little physical strength, so would be reliant on me to make or dismantle beds when she needs a kip during the day. The bed also has to be easy to get into. So it had to be fixed beds.

    We need to transport the wheelchair inside - this is our only vehicle - we need the on-board facilities for anything other than a short journey, so anything larger than a panel van was pretty much ruled out. The Globecar range have a high bed, with room to get the wheelchair underneath with it's back folded down. Nothing else had sufficient clearance. We didn't want anything outside the van either on a rack or a trailer.

    I am tall, so transverse beds are a bit too short in a PVC. Add to that the 'climb-over' problem inherent in any transverse bed. Because the Globecar beds are high, getting into the transverse beds is a bit like scaling a cliff face when you are both small & disabled. The Campscout has a huge longitudinal double (almost a triple :Wink:) with steps up the middle, making it easy to get in & out independently.

    All the vans in the range make good use of space. If we didn't have the wheelchair & it's hoist, we would have masses. As it is, we've packed the big electric wheelchair in, plus another folding manual chair, plus my 24" wheel folding bike (which is big for a folder) & still had room for all the general stuff. Mind you coming from a VW camper van, we are used to travelling light.

    Anything else you want to know, just ask. We will be at the Sandy meet, hopefully at Malvern & hopefully at Misterton & almost certainly at Lincoln. We can't make long term plans, so can only book things at the last minute. No charge for the guided tour!

    I love it.
     
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    That sounds like the one we're interested in. Currently touring in southern Spain and the internet connection is a bit rubbish, so not easy to check on the Globecar website at the mo.

    Thanks for your helpful post - it backs up many of my own observations, but a much more valuable insight because you've actually got one! :thumb:

    Glad you like it.

    Mike
     
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    PVC's

    We have a wildax constelllation had a few alteration's done and were pleased with it

    :thumb::thumb::thumb::thumb:
     
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