what about this new ferry service

[chaser]

from ramsgate, will it ever get off the ground, is it a white elephant, will it carry motorhomes, will it be cheap?

 

[sdc77]

I thought it was planned to be freight

 

[Langtoftlad]

Non starter, won't happen... port is wrong, company doesn't have any [extra] suitable ferries - spending £100+ million of our money on Project Fear v3.3

 

[Snowbird]

If its anything like the old Sally Viking line that used to run out of there, I think I will will give it a miss .

 

[chaser]

I thought it was planned to be freight

yes but how low will the sizes go , will it be taking 3.5 tonne vans.

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[scousebird]

Ramsgate port looks like it needs quite a bit of work to get it operational again, it looks very sad.

 

[Langtoftlad]

Oooops...

 

[sylvester1954]

Where are all of these surplus ferry boats presently moored, have they been mothballed somewhere the other side of the world

 

[Tykatem]

Non starter, won't happen... port is wrong, company doesn't have any [extra] suitable ferries - spending £100+ million of our money on Project Fear v3.3

Seaborne Freight will start to operate an Ostend – Ramsgate ro-ro freight service as from March, using three ships. There will be six departures a day.
Target group is accompanied freight, which means the line goes in competition with Dunkerque, Calais and the Channel Tunnel, but not with nearby port of Zeebrugge.

• The people behind Seaborne Freight have many years of Channel ferry experience (Sealink, SeaFrance, MyFerryLink).
• One of the ships is the former ro-pax trainferry SEAFRANCE NORD PAS-DE-CALAIS. She has been operating as FRS-owned AL ANDALUS EXPRESS between Motril and Tanger-Med, and is now at anchor near Cadiz.
• The two other ships have not been revealed yet.
• In Ostend the service will operate from the former TransEuropa Ferries terminal.

https://www.ferryshippingnews.com/p...ome-new-cross-channel-freight-ferry-operator/

Pete

 

[Ivory55]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XDiuqcx-
They have just brought one in for refurbish ready for March. Haha.

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[Paddywack]

They could have had a manned charter at 15,000 euros a day = for three ships 16.5 million euros a year!

The former SEAFRANCE NORD PAS-DE-CALAIS was bought in 2014 for £3 million!

Lets guess how many of the directors are Tory party donors?

 

[Khizzie]

Haha I see the monster raving party has their spokesman on here as well. Lolol

 

[Langtoftlad]

Seaborne Freight will start to operate an Ostend – Ramsgate ro-ro freight service as from March, using three ships. There will be six departures a day.
Target group is accompanied freight, which means the line goes in competition with Dunkerque, Calais and the Channel Tunnel, but not with nearby port of Zeebrugge.

• The people behind Seaborne Freight have many years of Channel ferry experience (Sealink, SeaFrance, MyFerryLink).
• One of the ships is the former ro-pax trainferry SEAFRANCE NORD PAS-DE-CALAIS. She has been operating as FRS-owned AL ANDALUS EXPRESS between Motril and Tanger-Med, and is now at anchor near Cadiz.
• The two other ships have not been revealed yet.
• In Ostend the service will operate from the former TransEuropa Ferries terminal.

https://www.ferryshippingnews.com/p...ome-new-cross-channel-freight-ferry-operator/

Pete

See my post above &
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...owns-no-ships-and-has-never-run-ferry-service



"This is a company that has no ships, no funds, no identified investors, no employees and no real premises."



Their website is a joke... timetables, err nothing to see here. Want a job, err coming soon...



That's £13.8 million never to be seen again

 

[Tykatem]

See my post above &
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...owns-no-ships-and-has-never-run-ferry-service

"This is a company that has no ships, no funds, no identified investors, no employees and no real premises."

So are you saying that the information in the Ferry Shipping News is all lies?

Pete

 

[Langtoftlad]

So are you saying that the information in the Ferry Shipping News is all lies?

No - I'm saying it's lazy "journalism" to simply copy & paste a PR or Media press release

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[Ivory55]

Just a thought has ramsgate been used by any ships of size lately, so will they have to dredge out the berths etc . Am only guessing as not know.

 

[Langtoftlad]

"DEAR GRAYLING SIR.
MY NAME IS PRINCE SEABORNE OF NIGERIA.
I HAVE RECENTLY RECEIVED MANY FINE SHIPS AND WISH TO SHARE THEM.
IF YOU CAN SEND £13,800,000 BY BANK TRANSFER, THIS WILL RELEASE THE SHIPS.
THE TRANSACTION IS 100% SAFE.
PLEASE RESPOND URGENTLY."

 

[mfw]

Shows how gullible the government is if people are not prepared for any problems then only got themselves to blame all people seem to do is whine and bleat cover yourself and dont get caught out

 

[highwayman]

Just a thought has ramsgate been used by any ships of size lately, so will they have to dredge out the berths etc . Am only guessing as not know.

5million quids worth of dredging needed.
I am told the work is to start in January, we shall see !!!!

 

[Paddywack]

5million quids worth of dredging needed.
I am told the work is to start in January, we shall see !!!!

It will take them 14 weeks (minimum) to get a licence to dredge.

And apparently £35M of civil engineering works.

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[Langtoftlad]

5million quids worth of dredging needed.
I am told the work is to start in January, we shall see !!!!

Looks like it needs to be substantial...

 

[chaser]

It will take them 14 weeks (minimum) to get a licence to dredge.

And apparently £35M of civil engineering works.

13 m not going to go far then is it

 

[Ivory55]

So does anything sail from there at present ?

 

[mfw]

So does anything sail from there at present ?

Fishing boats

 

[Mel]

So does anything sail from there at present ?

No ferries
And the land in Oostende is used as a car park + storage for parts for the wind farm.
The building is an old portacabin.
The talks have been goung on for the last 2 years.

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[Pete5996]

• The people behind Seaborne Freight have many years of Channel ferry experience (Sealink, SeaFrance, MyFerryLink).

Pete

Hmm, I might be wrong but didn't all those companies end up consigned to the dustbin of history?

So what makes anyone think the 'people behind Seaborne Freight' could possibly do a better job this time around?

(Not a dig at Tykatem at all - just selected the relevant line from his post!)

 

[Paddywack]

13 m not going to go far then is it

The £13 MILLION is for the "ferry " company. The £35 MILLION is for the Port, from a separate bit of failing Graylings budget.

 

[Ivory55]

Didn’t sea France fall foul of being given French goverment money so unfair competition etc, so if we give money it’s not unfair competition.

 

[Langtoftlad]

Didn’t sea France fall foul of being given French goverment money so unfair competition etc, so if we give money it’s not unfair competition.

Yes but that's EU regulations and we'll be out, out out


Maybe ...

 

[Ivory55]

If I remember rightly the new haven diepe Route is subsided by the local council by giving money to the port of dieppe. Some get out scheme.

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