Vehicle weight

[Travellingman]

When you order a camper van from the factory with vactory fitted extras ie popup roof and awning etc is this extra weight include in the plated vehicle weight ?

 

[Travellingman]

In the spec for a campervan it states unladen weight in finished factory condition is 2,675 kg
and weight in drivable condition is 2,860 kg and permisable laden weight 3.500kg / 4000kg
what does this mean

 

[Phill D]

hi welcome.

add on / accessories are not normally presented as part of the plated weight.

the plated weights normally only show, max weight front axle, max weight rear axle, gross permitted weight and gross train weight.
the 2860 probably refers to add fuel, and the driver, aprox 75 / 80kgs for the driver and say 80kgs ( gull tank ) of fuel .
if extras are added they will be within the difference between your 2860 and the 3500kgs / 4000kgs whichever chassis / max weight you have spec'd

 

[TheBig1]

extras need to be subtracted from the payload, as the converter only give a brochure weight for the standard van. Anything added is on top of the base vehicle weight

 

[Travellingman]

Off grid power for Campervans.
if we went off grid and my wife wished to use an hairdryer and straightners every morning if we got a 4 kw invertor petrol generator could we plug the van into that to run the power whilst she used them.
or
would we be better off getting a
a solar panel or panels say 150 watt each and the equipment for that with 2x 100 lithium batteries.
please advise would be appreciated not sure which way to go to be honest.

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[Phill D]

generators are like Marmite, they do the job but can be very anti social, and they can be heavy dependent on the size and what fuel they run from ( possibly need to carry petrol in cans ).

the cheapest route is probably a generator but it may not be acceptable for the way in which you intend to use your van.

cant advise on Lithium its not something i have needed to look into as yet.

 

[TheBig1]

absolutely the generator would work but is not going to make you popular. Most of us have loads of solar, a decent battery bank and inverter. Lithium batteries are way more expensive but will give far more usable capacity. Old lead batteries are cheaper but can only be discharged 50% without shortening their service life whereas you get 80% usable capacity from Lithium

Better than hairdryers and straighteners is a trip to the hairdresser for a short haircut. Anything that produces heat or powers a motor sucks the energy out of batteries very fast

 

[Phill D]

Off grid power for Campervans.
if we went off grid and my wife wished to use an hairdryer and straightners every morning if we got a 4 kw invertor petrol generator could we plug the van into that to run the power whilst she used them.

i'd suggest rationing i.e. once a week, a bobble hat or an Alice band

 

[poppycamper]

absolutely the generator would work but is not going to make you popular. Most of us have loads of solar, a decent battery bank and inverter. Lithium batteries are way more expensive but will give far more usable capacity. Old lead batteries are cheaper but can only be discharged 50% without shortening their service life whereas you get 80% usable capacity from Lithium

Better than hairdryers and straighteners is a trip to the hairdresser for a short haircut. Anything that produces heat or powers a motor sucks the energy out of batteries very fast

Mrs Poppy Camper says one reason she likes to go away in van in she can chuck her drier/curlers/straighteners and let her hair do what it wants and adopt the rugged look...which I MUST confess appeals more to me than a perfectly coiffeured bonce.

 

[Ivory55]

You can’t beat a generator for the hairdryer, they seem to want 3 phase electric supply for the ladies hairdryer. If on a campsite you might not be able to use one, but wild camping you can do what you want there is no rules as the ones who want to wild camping are always saying is why they do it, not to avoid camp site fees

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[Lenny HB]

There should be 2 entries on the Certificate of Conformity for MIRO which is mass in runnig order which is driveable condition.
MIRO is given as the basic vehicle.
Technical MIRO includes options fitted.

 

[IRHP]

Really the only way to tell is go to weighbridge. Your vin plate won't have any details about extras. For a rough idea ask about the Miro (mass in running order) and what is included in that. It's different for different manufacturers but will include things like a driver, some water some fuel, maybe gas. Then take it with a pinch of salt. Once you've been to a weighbridge and got a figure anything you add after that up to the Revenue weight is your payload.

 

[pappajohn]

vactory fitted extras ie popup roof

Noooooo!
DVLA no longer recognise a "pop-up roof" as a Motorcaravan.
They may well register it as a "van with windows"

 

[Jamesh]

You can’t beat a generator for the hairdryer, they seem to want 3 phase electric supply for the ladies hairdryer. If on a campsite you might not be able to use one, but wild camping you can do what you want there is no rules as the ones who want to wild camping are always saying is why they do it, not to avoid camp site fees

Do you tow your 3 phase Genny?!

Perhaps you tow it behind the Tesla showman style to charge up the Tesla too...!

 

[Ivory55]

2k kippor

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[Nanniemate]

Off grid power for Campervans.
if we went off grid and my wife wished to use an hairdryer and straightners every morning if we got a 4 kw invertor petrol generator could we plug the van into that to run the power whilst she used them.
or
would we be better off getting a
a solar panel or panels say 150 watt each and the equipment for that with 2x 100 lithium batteries.
please advise would be appreciated not sure which way to go to be honest.

she'd be better off the get a hair cut

 

[Gaston aires]

If you go down the Genny route get a quiet type, eg Honda (expensive) or another quiet type. Personally I would go down the Solar/lithium/ inverter route. You can then off grid to your hearts content. We have this system.
Phil

 

[Ivory55]

If you go down the Genny route get a quiet type, eg Honda (expensive) or another quiet type. Personally I would go down the Solar/lithium/ inverter route. You can then off grid to your hearts content. We have this system.
Phil

Especially in Scotland where the sun always shines, haha

 

[Gaston aires]

Especially in Scotland where the sun always shines, haha

It always shines on me but then I’m righteous.

 

[poppycamper]

If you go down the Genny route get a quiet type, eg Honda

Why are silent running genny's painted bright red??
Because if they were green you would not be aware they were buried in grass and you would fall over them..."trip hazard".
Boom Boom.. sorry to invade your domain old-mo.

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[Nanniemate]

It always shines on me but then I’m righteous.

Devil always looks after his own so I've been told

 

[Rosemary1]

absolutely the generator would work but is not going to make you popular. Most of us have loads of solar, a decent battery bank and inverter. Lithium batteries are way more expensive but will give far more usable capacity. Old lead batteries are cheaper but can only be discharged 50% without shortening their service life whereas you get 80% usable capacity from Lithium

Better than hairdryers and straighteners is a trip to the hairdresser for a short haircut. Anything that produces heat or powers a motor sucks the energy out of batteries very fast

I changed to a less high maintenance haircut because of this - wash and go

 

[busbuddy]

Off grid power for Campervans.
if we went off grid and my wife wished to use an hairdryer and straightners every morning if we got a 4 kw invertor petrol generator could we plug the van into that to run the power whilst she used them

I take it you know how much a 4kw generator weighs and have the space to transport it in the van

 

[Minxy]

I'd forget the hairdryer and straighteners and instead get her to have a shuftie at the various gas powered offerings (using mini gas cartridges), you can get brushes, curling tongs, curling brushes and straighteners now - having had the tongs and brushes for many a year I can confirm that they do work very well, much easier than corded versions. I dry my hair using a cheapo microfibre towelling turban type hair towel which are very cheap (from £1 in pound shops) and it soon takes loads of the moisture our. Obviously they brushes etc won't dry really wet hair but if it's just a bit damp it should do - Babyliss and Braun are 2 brands that come to mind but they may be others.

 

[nicholsong]

It always shines on me but then I’m righteous.

or a 'right toss'?