Updating old sockets..... (1 Viewer)

GaryGavlaar

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Does anyone do new upto date socket options to replace the likes of the two pin 12v and arial socket i have in my 99 Bessacarr? The panel looks like its standard house size, and most newer ones ive seen look a lot smaller in modern motorhomes.

I'm looking for the easiest and tidiest way to change it to a cig lighter socket really so i can use it for a 12v tv im looking to get. I would ideally love to have some USB sockets too for charging phones etc, as not planning for this thing to be on hookup much if i can help it.

Cheeers all
 
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GaryGavlaar

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These are the ones I'm referring to....
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A photo of the existing panel/sockets would help those (like me) who aren't familiar with your van.

:rolleyes: Our posts crossed.

Toolstation and others have these as singles or doubles.............

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A photo of the existing panel/sockets would help those (like me) who aren't familiar with your van.

:rolleyes: Our posts crossed.

Toolstation and others have these as singles or doubles.............

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GaryGavlaar

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Australian Clipsal sockets. Best option would be to fit a brushed anodised aluminium panel and fit new sockets to that.
You can get a panel on eBay cut to size for a few quid
Ahhh i like this idea. Never thought of that. Hole cutter through a blanking panel and then fit whatever i need.
 
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Search eBay for motorhome Berker chrome socket range ---- very posh
I don't think these would be a direct replacement would they? The fit via 4 screws in the corners, which for these existing units there is nothing for them to screw into. The existing ones fit like a standard UK plug with two fixings in the middle of both the left and right vertical edges.
 

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I don't think these would be a direct replacement would they? The fit via 4 screws in the corners, which for these existing units there is nothing for them to screw into. The existing ones fit like a standard UK plug with two fixings in the middle of both the left and right vertical edges.
Those are the type of sockets you could fit into an aluminum panel.
Also have a look at CBE

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Does anyone do new upto date socket options to replace the likes of the two pin 12v and arial socket i have in my 99 Bessacarr? The panel looks like its standard house size, and most newer ones ive seen look a lot smaller in modern motorhomes.

I'm looking for the easiest and tidiest way to change it to a cig lighter socket really so i can use it for a 12v tv im looking to get. I would ideally love to have some USB sockets too for charging phones etc, as not planning for this thing to be on hookup much if i can help it.

Cheeers all
I don't have an answer for you in terms of like-for-like fittings, but if you DO find anything, please do post what you got as would be very interested to know.
 
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GaryGavlaar

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Those are the type of sockets you could fit into an aluminum panel.
Also have a look at CBE
Yeah the CBE stuff was what I had been looking at, but again they wouldn't be a like for like for like replacement due to size and fixing positions, from what I can see. Unless I'm missing something? They all look a lot smaller than a standard uk 240v fascia sizes.
 
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The clip on outer trim for these is smaller than the standard uk socket size, so would need some kind of panel making up.
I think that's what Lenny HB was talking about in post #4. There are different styles of CBE or Berker sockets, so look around to find one that you like. You can get double or triple sockets, so the width would be wider than the hole, but still not high enough to fill up the space.
 
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I think that's what Lenny HB was talking about in post #4. There are different styles of CBE or Berker sockets, so look around to find one that you like.
There is no CBE socket (or Berker) that is as large as a UK Domestic socket. The frames and cover vary in style but not in size.
You can get 1 gang, 2 gang and 3 gang CBEs but none will be tall enough (or wide enough if mounted vertically) to be secured and cover the existing hole.
 
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What I thought Lenny HB meant was, remove the existing sockets and trims. Get an anodised brushed aluminium panel and fit it over the hole. Cut holes in the panel to fit new CBE or Berker sockets. If so that would be my suggestion too.
 
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What I thought Lenny HB meant was, remove the existing sockets and trims. Get an anodised brushed aluminium panel and fit it over the hole. Cut holes in the panel to fit new CBE or Berker sockets. If so that would be my suggestion too.
Yes ive just recently realised this myself. I was thinking of getting some of them barrel type 12v sockets as they would just need a hole cutting with a hole saw. Nice and easy. I didn't realise the cbe's just need round holes drilling to fit to. Makes it easier.

One last silly question. Any reason why a brushed aluminium panel? Just for looks? I guess a wooden panel would also be fine would it? Saves the need for earthing the metal panel(mentioned above) with it having a 240v plug fitted to it ?
 

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He was asking for the neatest and tidiest way :)
If you are going to just stick some kind of Fascia over holes left when removing sockets, afterwards ANY sockets are gonna fit!!

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alternatives,

Or expensive, but a "blank " canvas, core a round hole to fit , berker, cbe , ect. More work though,
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One last silly question. Any reason why a brushed aluminium panel? Just for looks? I guess a wooden panel would also be fine would it? Saves the need for earthing the metal panel(mentioned above) with it having a 240v plug fitted to it ?
I've done a similar mod on and older motorhome before.
Took out the old Clipsal socket, bought a sample of thickish laminated flooring from b&q then fitted a cbe combination of 3 sockets to it, a screw in each corner to fix to original bulkhead with push on plastic covers over the screw heads.
 

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That is the neatest & tidiest way.
As long as you don't mind it looking like you whacked a piece of wood or metal on the side of the wall. I assumed the OP wanted to keep an OEM style.

The NEATEST and TIDIEST way is to replace the socket with another socket that fits in the exact same space. But if there is not one available, that is not an option in those circumstances. but sorry, overall it is NOT the neatest and tidiest way.

As an example .... THIS is a neat and tidy way to update your sockets in an old motorhome to get a USB for example...
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One of those sets I put in and is new, the other was 14 years old. at the time.
 

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