Turkey LPG Pressure

[Jack TGA]

Does this sound right? Or any other Turkey campers heard this... So I've had a sooty burning fridge and I've spoken to a couple of gas guys in Turkey where I am and they say the problem is over pressure in the tanks because Turkey LPG pumps put in more pressure than European pumps. They say the solution is only ever fill two thirds full. (And now get the system checked to see if over pressure has damaged the system).

 

[frwjd]

We've had at least half a dozen fill ups and no problems.
With the refillable systems I thought it was the vehicle tanks/bottles that wouldn't allow filling over 80% not the pump used for filling?

 

[daveandsan]

As already said, once the bottle gets to 80% it stops filling.

 

[Dorset Diver]

The purpose of your regulator is to ensure you kit get gas at the right pressure more or less regardless of the pressure in your tanks. The quality of the LPG is another matter.

 

[DBK]

It sounds as if you either have a problem with your fridge and it needs decoking or perhaps more likely you have taken on board some duff gas with oil or heavy density gas in it. If the fridge was working fine before you entered Turkey then I suspect duff gas.

It might be hard to sort it short of venting off all the gas. That might still leave oil in the tank but I can't think of any other solution. But it would be worth phoning whoever did the conversion. If it Autogas2000 I am sure they can help and if they didn't do it phone them anyway.

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[Jack TGA]

We've had at least half a dozen fill ups and no problems.
With the refillable systems I thought it was the vehicle tanks/bottles that wouldn't allow filling over 80% not the pump used for filling?

That's what I thought.

 

[frwjd]

We had problems with duff gas in Greece, lots of them!
Eventually we had inline filters fitted, been ok since but perhaps I should clean or replace the filters

 

[Orion]

In-line filters are a good option to prevent this happening or a regulator being damaged.

GAS IT online shop currently have a Twin Pack of Truma Filters at a good price.

 

[nicholsong]

In-line filters are a good option to prevent this happening or a regulator being damaged.

GAS IT online shop currently have a Twin Pack of Truma Filters at a good price.

Are they fitted on the HP liquid side, which would also protect the cylinder, or on the LP gas side of the system, which would only protect the appliances?

 

[Reallyretired]

Filters to protect the regulator are a fine idea, but £66 to protect a £50 regulator (Truma GOK8) doesnt seem a great bargain.

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[Orion]

Are they fitted on the HP liquid side, which would also protect the cylinder, or on the LP gas side of the system, which would only protect the appliances?

HP gas side, between cylinder and auto changeover valve (if fitted) and regulator.

 

[Orion]

Filters to protect the regulator are a fine idea, but £66 to protect a £50 regulator (Truma GOK8) doesnt seem a great bargain.

Would also protect an auto changeover valve if fitted. And could prevent appliance injectors and burners from gumming up as per the OP (possibly).

 

[Guigsy]

Not sure, but once LPG is liquid, it doesn't really compress anymore? The vapour off the top is what you pipe into the van. That builds to a natural pressure dependent on temperature. I'm guessing that when you fill the tank, pumping liquid into a nearly empty tank probably compresses the gas that's already in there, but it should condense back liquid so it goes back to the natural pressure.

I think it's more likely that the sootiness is caused by something in the gas in Turkey not being the same spec. Maybe it contains more butane than the burner is expecting and it's not letting in enough air? Maybe it's not as pure and contains other hydrocarbons? Lots of Turkey is fairly high, so is it an altitude issue???

 

[Jack TGA]

Not sure, but once LPG is liquid, it doesn't really compress anymore? The vapour off the top is what you pipe into the van. That builds to a natural pressure dependent on temperature. I'm guessing that when you fill the tank, pumping liquid into a nearly empty tank probably compresses the gas that's already in there, but it should condense back liquid so it goes back to the natural pressure.

I think it's more likely that the sootiness is caused by something in the gas in Turkey not being the same spec. Maybe it contains more butane than the burner is expecting and it's not letting in enough air? Maybe it's not as pure and contains other hydrocarbons? Lots of Turkey is fairly high, so is it an altitude issue???

Not an altitude issue. I have been mainly at sea level.

 

[Jack TGA]

Verdict (from three seperate gas techs): it's poor quality LPG for which Turkey and Morroco are renowned apparently. Solution: recommended to buy my LPG from Shell garages here.

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