Tuggers' etiquette

[ericonabike]

So, we arrive at a fairly formal site, with numbered pitches of hardstanding I terspersed by grassy areas about the same size. The camp guide asks that you park on the hardstanding with awning to the right, as viewed from the road. We don't use an awning, but we parked with the hab door on the right.

A caravan then arrives and sets up. Afterwards he parks his car on the grass to our right. This seemed a bit like parking tanks on our lawn, so we politely asked of he would move. His reply was that we didn't have an awning, so he could park there. We demurred, and after grumbling a bit he parked his car on the road.

What's the etiquette here? As a tugger, should he park his car on his own grass, even if that means there's no room for his awning? Or can he legitimately lay claim to land either side of his van?

I appreciate that this is very much a first world problem, and we're not looking for UN involvement, but it's the first time we've come across it, and guidance would be appreciated!

 

[Grasmere9]

Warden? Not come across this before when I had a caravan...

 

[denisejoe]

We always parked our car on our own pitch when we were caravaners.

 

[Richard n Ann]

Seen this happen a lot on temporary holiday sites, especially when you're in a motorhome as there's no tow car.

 

[Grasmere9]

In theory you could put a table, chairs etc outside your van on the grass...would he park there then?

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[ceejayt]

Usually sites allow for caravan, awning and car with car parked by the side or even across the front - not on your grass for sure.

 

[Clarky]

I think there must be a clear separation between outfits of 6m.
That means he should park well away from you.
Not sure if that’s a C&MC rule or legal requirement, I suspect the latter.

Of coursed non of this applies in France where a fag paper between is quite OK.

Richard.

 

[DDJC]

I think there must be a clear separation between outfits of 6m.
That means he should park well away from you.
Not sure if that’s a C&MC rule or legal requirement, I suspect the latter.

Of coursed non of this applies in France where a fag paper between is quite OK.

Richard.

We were told by CAMC wardens that they have a 6m policy for fire prevention for the main van. However, we were free to go head first in and have the awning on the left or back in and have it on the left.

I think that it depends totally on the site. Having said that, it is also about respect for your site neighbours.

 

[dunnah01]

Just get your chairs out and use their car bonnet as a table - see if they move it then

 

[Norfolk Nige]

When we towed it was always park on your own pitch, in front of van, or if no room there up in the car park regardless of whether the neighbours have an awning out. Some people are just ignorant.

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[GAVLAD]

It depends on the site set up and how the pitches are marked out.
Normally, a site does not want you to park a car on the grass, unless it's all a grass pitch.
Below first photo is a CL.
Car closest on right is on a pitch where it was awning/caravan and then car. Awning being on grass and car on gravel on other side. But not on neighbouring pitch's grass.
It always used to pi== me off that with a motorhome, parking up to the peg used to leave wasted space on the non-tab door side of the pitch, where as a caravan could make use of it with their car.

Second photo is a CAMC club site.
The strip of grass belongs to the awning set up. So goes car/caravan/awning/grass and next pitch the same.

A CL we visited the other day, cars were parked across the front of their pitch on the lane. - Again, not on the grass.

I've asked many people about what they consider the 6m rule to be and have had many different interpretations.
However, the 6m rule is that all units are pitched 6m away from other units.
This includes the awning or any small tent pitched with the main unit.
A vehicle can be parked within the 6m as long as it is a clear 3m away from any sleeping area. (3m from any outside edge of the car)

So, even the official line on this is a contradiction for some sites, because parking a car on the other side of the caravan but still on their pitch, (ie, car/caravan/awning/grass verge and then same next pitch) means that the vehicle will be parked within 3m of their own sleeping accommodation - being the caravan.

If it doubt, just speak with the warden.

 

[ericonabike]

The turf war just escalated! Mrs neighbour returned from a trip and parked on our lawn! Remonstrations to no avail. They have a monster awning on the other side, with room for the car, but one of the camps picnic tables is there. Photo shows what it looks like for us.

There is no warden, as its not a club site, but I shall speak to reception for an arbitration ruling. Had they asked, might well have agreed, but force majeure always hacks me off!

 

[M-J]

The turf war just escalated! Mrs neighbour returned from a trip and parked on our lawn! Remonstrations to no avail. They have a monster awning on the other side, with room for the car, but one of the camps picnic tables is there. Photo shows what it looks like for us.

There is no warden, as its not a club site, but I shall speak to reception for an arbitration ruling. Had they asked, might well have agreed, but force majeure always hacks me off!

I would be expecting them to move and making sure they did.

 

[Riverbankannie]

I would be expecting them to move and making sure they did.

Ditto.
It must be neighbours like this that make lots of folks set up encampment with windbreaks to protect their personal space.
We too are used to aires and carparks where units are side by side but that’s not the point, This is a campsite separate pitches and you are entitled to your bit.

 

[Taran_Las]

Portable electric fence?

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[Richard n Ann]

It's the open plan sites that cause the problems.

In July our friends parked their tow car on our pitch so we could all sit the other side between the van's. I overheard our far neighbour saying "huh, there was a space there but there's a car on it now, motorhome AND a car??"
She wanted our pitch to park her arriving friends car on. Unbelievable.

 

[DDJC]

The turf war just escalated! Mrs neighbour returned from a trip and parked on our lawn! Remonstrations to no avail. They have a monster awning on the other side, with room for the car, but one of the camps picnic tables is there. Photo shows what it looks like for us.

There is no warden, as its not a club site, but I shall speak to reception for an arbitration ruling. Had they asked, might well have agreed, but force majeure always hacks me off!

Just wind out your awning to its fullest extent...

 

[David and Sally]

Just wind out your awning to its fullest extent...

And put out tables and chairs, BBQs, washing.

 

[Swifter]

Pesky tuggers making everything so complicated. It’s not rocket science.

 

[Langtoftlad]

I know you said it's not a CAMC site - but they do lay out their expectations quite clearly.
Awning on one side, car on the other side.

I suppose it all depends on the boundaries of the pitch and if the grass areas are communal no man's land

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[ericonabike]

Afraid I've gone to DefCon 5. They've gone out, so have dragged our campsite picnic table to the front of our lawn (as I like to think of it) and placed it in the middle, so no space either side for a car.

This is all a shame, as it's a lovely site (Tantallon, North Berwick). They are very short staffed - recrption never manned and the mobile number left appears to be switched off. So anarchy reigns...

We're leaving tomorrow anyway, which they are aware of. Trying very hard not to let this become an obsession!

 

[reckless]

Now you're going to have to occupy your seating area all day long so they don't move your table
I think it already is an obsession

 

[ericonabike]

Nah, I am totally chilled. Going out for the day shortly and they can do what they will. Regardless of the rights and wrongs, it was their sense of entitlement that rubbed me up the, wrong way. "You haven't got an awning, so we can park here". Had they asked and explained, chances, are we'd be sharing a cup of tea with them by now...

 

[SpeedyDux]

Caravan from Germany by any chance?

 

[Richard n Ann]

Nah, I am totally chilled. Going out for the day shortly and they can do what they will. Regardless of the rights and wrongs, it was their sense of entitlement that rubbed me up the, wrong way. "You haven't got an awning, so we can park here". Had they asked and explained, chances, are we'd be sharing a cup of tea with them by now...

That's exactly how I felt. If they'd asked us I'd have said OK just put it right up to your caravan. Instead I made sure our scooter took the space up after the friends car moved back.

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[mitzimad]

barbeque fits nice on a car bonnet

 

[GAVLAD]

There’s loads of room for them to park opposite on the grass.
I’d still make a point of telling the site staff even if you’re leaving tomorrow.
It could be enough to decide on whether you return and give future business.

 

[Bailey 15]

You’ve paid for your pitch same as they have, therefore same space.
This is rude and I would have windshield up by now !!
Surely, is pitch marked out?
It’s just manners isent it
Keep us posted

 

[MalcMc]

We had similar in Cornwall, was a C&MC site, large group arrived in a minibus towing a caravan, set up no issue, Van parked alongside, correctly, awning out, then on the grass between us a tent appeared quite small so thought shade for dog, no more !!!! sleeping room, as my temp rose OH said leaving tomorrow let someone else moan, she won just.

 

[davidbaldam]

Ask them to pay for half the pitch, as their using what you have paid for.

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