Travelling safely with dog in pvc (1 Viewer)

[Grianan]

Looking for ideas of how to travel safely and legally with standard labradoodle incase of accident ... ideally he’ll be lying under the table behind the front seats as my son will be there and that stops him (dog) panicking! I presume he needs restraining but how?

 

[Ranger]

Just use a proper dog harness and clip it to the spare seatbelt, depending on the size of the dog and proximity to the seatbelt a short extension may be required.

 

[Blue Knight]

I'm interested in any solutions being offered after adopting a Rotti dog a few weeks ago.

On first inspection our own pup looks a tad too big for the seats to be comfortable.

 

[Dare_Devil_Dennis]

Look on Amazon for Mudder Dog

Amazon product ASIN B06Y2Y16FL
There are alternatives.

They do a lead that has a shock absorbing section in the middle, a seat belt fitting at one end and a standard collar clip at the other.

However, do not secure your pet by its collar, you should use a proper harness, or the poor thing is likely to be seriously injured or even killed by the forces delivered in a crash. You can get both on Amazon.

If your seat belts are all used by passengers, you can get a spare seat belt receptacle (the part with the red release button) from a car scrap yard and bolt it somewhere convenient for your dog to sit while travelling. The receptacle does not need to be secured to the chassis as for a human passenger as the weight of your dog is so much lower than a person.

Dennis

 

[Blue Knight]

Look on Amazon for Mudder Dog

Amazon product ASIN B06Y2Y16FL
There are alternatives.

They do a lead that has a shock absorbing section in the middle, a seat belt fitting at one end and a standard collar clip at the other.

However, do not secure your pet by its collar, you should use a proper harness, or the poor thing is likely to be seriously injured or even killed by the forces delivered in a crash. You can get both on Amazon.

If your seat belts are all used by passengers, you can get a spare seat belt receptacle (the part with the red release button) from a car scrap yard and bolt it somewhere convenient for your dog to sit while travelling. The receptacle does not need to be secured to the chassis as for a human passenger as the weight of your dog is so much lower than a person.

Dennis

That's very useful Dennis - many thanks.

I'll take a look as our pup (once fully reabiliated) will weigh about 50-55kg.

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[Cat53]

We use a ‘Pet Tube’ keeps all four of ours safe for travelling. Its also their bed at night and it’s great in the car too! Similar to this. https://www.manomano.co.uk/car-acce...MIudrikpec3gIVCuR3Ch1RFwPAEAQYCiABEgJzAvD_BwE

Strangely we were just chatting about this subject. All animals need to be restrained in a car with owners being fined if animals are loose. They then list the animals and number 6 on the list is...............FISH!

 

[Grianan]

Thanks. I think we will need to keep the 4 human seat belts free .... do they have to clip into a seatbelt or can they be clipped onto another fixing attached to the MH?

 

[Minxy]

We use a ‘Pet Tube’ keeps all four of ours safe for travelling. Its also their bed at night and it’s great in the car too! Similar to this. https://www.manomano.co.uk/car-acce...MIudrikpec3gIVCuR3Ch1RFwPAEAQYCiABEgJzAvD_BwE

Not seen those before but I doubt it would give much 'protection/restraint' in an accident as the tube itself has not real structure to it, better than nothing though.

Highway code Rule 57
When in a vehicle make sure dogs or other animals are suitably restrained so they cannot distract you while you are driving or injure you, or themselves, if you stop quickly. A seat belt harness, pet carrier, dog cage or dog guard are ways of restraining animals in cars.

Strangely we were just chatting about this subject. All animals need to be restrained in a car with owners being fined if animals are loose. They then list the animals and number 6 on the list is...............FISH!

Fish as in a tank/container etc - that's what needs to be secured ... I don't think they intent is for you to try to put a harness on a fish!

 

[TheBig1]

I have 3 short lengths of chain securely screwed to the floor. Each has a clip on to attach to their harnesses. This leaves the seats and seatbelts free to use for passengers. The dogs have padded beds to lay or sleep on.
An average 15 - 20kg dog would have the force of a quarter of a tonne in an accident. They could be severely injured or injure you if left unsecured

 

[Ranger]

I'm interested in any solutions being offered after adopting a Rotti dog a few weeks ago.

On first inspection our own pup looks a tad too big for the seats to be comfortable.

Ours (medium size)lays in her own bed on the floor with her harness clipped onto the seatbelt webbing which is fastened as normal so it has some movement as she moves but would lock up on serious braking.

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[Grianan]

Ok. @MinxyGirl because you know everything there is to know about Campscouts .... where would you attach a fixing and how could you attach it to be secure to required rating? I’m thinking dînette area as that’s where Yogi will probably want to be.

 

[Cat53]

Not seen those before but I doubt it would give much 'protection/restraint' in an accident as the tube itself has not real structure to it, better than nothing though.

Highway code Rule 57
When in a vehicle make sure dogs or other animals are suitably restrained so they cannot distract you while you are driving or injure you, or themselves, if you stop quickly. A seat belt harness, pet carrier, dog cage or dog guard are ways of restraining animals in cars.


Fish as in a tank/container etc - that's what needs to be secured ... I don't think they intent is for you to try to put a harness on a fish!

It has restraints so you can tie it down. And in the car it goes across the entire back seat, is wedge between fron and back with the restraints round each seat. So very secure. In the motorhome it’s restrained round the captains seats and the t blue leg.

 

[Minxy]

It has restraints so you can tie it down. And in the car it goes across the entire back seat, is wedge between fron and back with the restraints round each seat. So very secure. In the motorhome it’s restrained round the captains seats and the t blue leg.

Ah, I see, so am I correct to assume you have it on the floor behind the captains seats/under the table (I assume the t blue leg is the table leg! ) rather than on the rear travel seats which was my concern.

 

[Minxy]

Ok. @MinxyGirl because you know everything there is to know about Campscouts .... where would you attach a fixing and how could you attach it to be secure to required rating? I’m thinking dînette area as that’s where Yogi will probably want to be.

Now then ... you stop being cheeky ... I never professed to knowing everything about anything.

I would tend to favour fixing it to the back of the front passenger seat utilising one of the existing bolts there on the door side as that will be a 'strong point' already and will hold the dog under the table area, rather than it being able to potter into the corridor. Alternatively you could look to attach it to the metal work under the dinette seat but this would involve cutting/making a hole in the front base panel and in an accident could then pull the panel off/damage the seat!

 

[Cat53]

Ah, I see, so am I correct to assume you have it on the floor behind the captains seats/under the table (I assume the t blue leg is the table leg! ) rather than on the rear travel seats which was my concern.

Yes, on the floor. It’s actually quite big and wouldn’t fit on the side facing bench seats (which is all we have) with no seat belts!

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[Dare_Devil_Dennis]

Wherever you secure the fixing point, be careful that the pet cannot wander into the cab area while you are driving. It would be a massive distraction and possibly get in the way of you safely operating the vehicle. (and certainly would constitute an offence). Behind, or fastened to, the cab seats feels a little too close and you would need a very short leash which would really restrict him / her.

For users of the seat belt fixing type who don't have a spare seat belt point, buy a D shackle (search Amazon), then you can thread your safety leash around something secure.

 

[Minxy]

Wherever you secure the fixing point, be careful that the pet cannot wander into the cab area while you are driving. It would be a massive distraction and possibly get in the way of you safely operating the vehicle. (and certainly would constitute an offence). Behind, or fastened to, the cab seats feels a little too close and you would need a very short leash which would really restrict him / her.

You don't want to have the leash too long as that would allow the dog to be 'hurled' forward more before the 'twang' as it snapped tight which could cause a lot more injury.

For users of the seat belt fixing type who don't have a spare seat belt point, buy a D shackle (search Amazon), then you can thread your safety leash around something secure.

Good idea to save having to buy a seat-belt attachment.

 

[Duck Truck]

ideally he’ll be lying under the table behind the front seats as my son will be there

Err that's a bit harsh on your son

 

[jezport]

Highway code Rule 57
When in a vehicle make sure dogs or other animals are suitably restrained so they cannot distract you while you are driving or injure you, or themselves, if you stop quickly. A seat belt harness, pet carrier, dog cage or dog guard are ways of restraining animals in cars.

Fish as in a tank/container etc - that's what needs to be secured ... I don't think they intent is for you to try to put a harness on a fish!

Bloody Hell, where will I keep the chips?

 

[jezport]

Some layouts may allow for a Dog Grill to keep them at the rear or under a bed etc.

Make sure you use the correct grill.......

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[Northernraider]

Not seen those before but I doubt it would give much 'protection/restraint' in an accident as the tube itself has not real structure to it, better than nothing though.

Highway code Rule 57
When in a vehicle make sure dogs or other animals are suitably restrained so they cannot distract you while you are driving or injure you, or themselves, if you stop quickly. A seat belt harness, pet carrier, dog cage or dog guard are ways of restraining animals in cars.


Fish as in a tank/container etc - that's what needs to be secured ... I don't think they intent is for you to try to put a harness on a fish!

I'd just pop the fish in the fresh water tank lol

 

[Burgo]

We've put 4 Snoopy Loops between our dog's harnesses and the seat belt connections to allow a bit of "give" rather than a sudden shock.

 

[Grianan]

We've put 4 Snoopy Loops between our dog's harnesses and the seat belt connections to allow a bit of "give" rather than a sudden shock.

Snoopy Loops?

 

[Mr B]

I think a cage would be good enough.....

 

[mfw]

Snoopy Loops?

Diving term for elasticated band old innertube cut down to secure items allowing some movement or bungee cord i suppose

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[sdc77]

We always try and encourage ours to wear seatbelts.. losing battle though ..they know best.

 

[Just smiffy]

Well done to those that want to save their dogs as well there own lives....

 

[Mark and Mindy]

Now that we're finally getting our van (March-ish next year), we're going to work on getting our two used to wearing a harness in the car and secured on the seat belt connections - they're usually crated but we don't want to mess about with having to take a crate in the van, plus the one in the car is smaller than we'd use if we were giving them plenty of stretching room and anyway we'd have to find a way to secure it to stop it moving around.

 

[DBK]

I've fitted two of these in our PVC. They are about 40mm across and are fixed to the bodywork of the van, not internal woodwork. I used very substantial self-tapping screws, the countersunk heads are about 10mm across. Where the rings are fitted in the event of a head on crash the force on the screws will be in sheer. If you had to fit them on say a back wall you would be best advised to use bolts. Our dog is also only 10Kg, for a heavier dog I would also recommend bolts.

Where you put them will depend on vehicle layout of course. I also use a very short webbing loop made for climbers and bought in Go Outdoors.

Just Google stainless steel folding D ring. In the photo below the green rope is attached to the dog lead but this on for when we stop, not travelling. The karabiner came with the harness.

 

[Burgo]

Diving term for elasticated band old innertube cut down to secure items allowing some movement or bungee cord i suppose

Exactly. Rings of old bike, or car inner tube. Once you start using them you'll find loads of applications. I use a couple in my awning storm guys just to build in a bit of give, for example. Also use them to on dog collars if they're a bit too long, on the dog leads to hold the "poo bag dispenser" parallel to the lead so it doesn't flop around all over The place. Also put a couple around a small pen light torch to make it easier to hold in my teeth when it's "one of those jobs in a dark corner".

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