Tramps in Bournemouth

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Wilbury

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Hi All, The courts have now issued notice for the so called travellers in Kings Park , Bournemouth to be moved on.
Once again the filth they create and leave will have to be cleaned up at the rate payers expense.
It is no wonder that the various councils, who knowing no better, group all who use motorhomes together, prevent us genuine leisure Motorhomers from staying anywhere.
Does anyone have an idea of just how we can make the councils aware of the difference between the tramps and us.
The Motorhome industry and dedicated press, the very ones who make money out of us should be acting but seem seem to do nothing that I am aware of. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Wilbury
 

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Hi All, The courts have now issued notice for the so called travellers in Kings Park , Bournemouth to be moved on.
Once again the filth they create and leave will have to be cleaned up at the rate payers expense.
It is no wonder that the various councils, who knowing no better, group all who use motorhomes together, prevent us genuine leisure Motorhomers from staying anywhere.
Does anyone have an idea of just how we can make the councils aware of the difference between the tramps and us.
The Motorhome industry and dedicated press, the very ones who make money out of us should be acting but seem seem to do nothing that I am aware of. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Wilbury
There are some letter templates for approaching councils on my web site HERE which you are welcome to use and/or adapt as you see fit. Good luck to you - if more people would contact councils constructively we may see a difference. I'll be very interested to hear how you get on.

Graham
 

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Not too sure I agree with the blanket term tramps, does that include anyone who lives full time in a motorhome or is there a difference between those who have money to do it in style and those who have no choice. Whilst I agree leaving rubbish and making semi permanent camps may not be desirable it is the high cost of living that has pushed many people on the streets, be it in a blanket, motorhome or caravan. These people have no consideration for society because society has no consideration for them.
What is a tramp, how is it different to full timer, am I a tramp because I wild-camp and shun sites, or because I have long hair. If people are generally concerned then go along to the park and offer to help remove rubbish etc and make sure the people involved have somewhere to live and food to eat. Don't expect your conscience to be clear because you pay your taxes and have to support such people. They are no different to you and we could all end up like them so very easily.
 

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It sound's like your off on a crusade for the homeless and poor
The people to whom Wilbury is alluding, are neither, Tramp is a good non political description
The poorest man on the planet is capable of being clean and tidy and have respect for others places and property
The folk were talking about have more money than they know what to do with because they Don't pay taxes etc and dont have addresses either for other avoidance reasons
And yes my conscience is perfectly clear
Geo
PS how do you tell the difference, you cant till they've left:Angry:
 
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Wilbury

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Not too sure I agree with the blanket term tramps, does that include anyone who lives full time in a motorhome

(A, Of course not)

or is there a difference between those who have money to do it in style and those who have no choice.

A, If you saw them you would agree that they have the choice all right.

Whilst I agree leaving rubbish and making semi permanent camps may not be desirable it is the high cost of living that has pushed many people on the streets,

A, I am not refering to the homeless etc but to those who have chosen to lead their way of life to avoid any social responsibilities.

be it in a blanket, motorhome or caravan. These people have no consideration for society because society has no consideration for them.

A, Not so.

What is a tramp, how is it different to full timer, am I a tramp because I wild-camp and shun sites, or because I have long hair.

A, I would like to think not

If people are generally concerned then go along to the park and offer to help remove rubbish etc and make sure the people involved have somewhere to live and food to eat.

A, The particular people I am refering to deserve nothing of the sort.

Don't expect your conscience to be clear because you pay your taxes and have to support such people. They are no different to you and we could all end up like them so very easily.

A, They are totally different to me, and there is no way I would ever adopt their ways. I am sure this applies to most others too.

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Hi, don't know of the setup and nothing intended by the post just need people to sit up and take notice, as motorhomers we are tarred with the same brush like it or not, we are in effect posh Gypsies, travelling folk, new age travellers, tramps, or full timers if we live the lifestyle full time, some may be green others don't give a hoot, some are meat eaters and others veggies. Some will be honest and others not so, that is the way of the world, we are all different but society as a whole likes to put us in little boxes. I hate box, boxes make me angry and you won't like me when I'm angry, oh no, done that one hee hee.
 

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as motorhomers we are tarred with the same brush like it or not, we are in effect posh Gypsies, travelling folk, new age travellers, tramps, or full timers if we live the lifestyle full time,
:Angry: I can vouch for that through experience over several years with our local council. They wanted me move to the Travellers camp site. :Angry:
 

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:Angry: I can vouch for that through experience over several years with our local council. They wanted me move to the Travellers camp site. :Angry:
its a fact, its actual, everything is NOT satisfactual
Zipaddy do da..................................
do join in
:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 

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It sound's like your off on a crusade for the homeless and poor
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PS how do you tell the difference, you cant till they've left:Angry:
No crusade, just don't like boxes, and they have gone, darn it thought we might have a rally there and help clean up and educate them,:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
It really is very difficult for anyone to comment unless they have seen it know exactly what the problem is, etc. We like to think we are different, that put us into another box, oh no more boxes :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
Our hobby is travelling, some people just drive someplace and fish, others to drink, others to socialise, why should we all be expected to conform to a norm. If unhappy about a situation by all means try to change it. If wild camping were legal then maybe it would be easy to uphold the litter laws and just issue on the spot fines with vans being clamped until such fines are paid,or removed if not paid in 7 days. Crush them all, bring out the military to crush the rebellious hordes. Make it illegal to have a bed in a vehicle, that should do it. Everyone back to caravans on a site regulated, lined up fines for being out of square etc.
For goodness sake live and let live. Help to change and educate. If that doesn't work just shoot them.:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 

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Not too sure I agree with the blanket term tramps, does that include anyone who lives full time in a motorhome or is there a difference between those who have money to do it in style and those who have no choice
here you go....definition of a tramp.... CLICK

dont think this applies to you or anyone else with the means to run a motorhome. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 

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here you go....definition of a tramp.... CLICK

dont think this applies to you or anyone else with the means to run a motorhome. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
Sorry John condemned by your own evidence:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: were all tramps on here
by definition Tramp _ Gentlemen of the road, were do you drive yours:thumb::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
Geo
 

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Italy - wow - a founder member of The EU and home of the head of the Roman Cathelics. I wonder where they have planned for all of these Romas - The UK by any chance

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Sorry John condemned by your own evidence:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: were all tramps on here
by definition Tramp _ Gentlemen of the road, were do you drive yours:thumb::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
Geo
dont think so Geo.....

homeless.........even fulltimers live in motorhome/rv:thumb:

itinerant vagrant.....ditto:thumb:

begging and scavenging......not me at least:RollEyes:

no wish to work......thats me but i have to:Angry:

Examples of itinerants include:
i know your post was tongue in cheek Geo...:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

john.
 
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