So you look out your front (house) window ...

[Larrynwin]

Gorleston on sea Pier Hotel , Gt Yarmouth river entrance and outer harbour. To the right are tennis and basketball courts and bowling greens etc.
We miss living in the country but this is not a bad backup.

 

[KNWH]

Sunny
Dry
No midges
Really must cut the front lawn though

 

[Barriesimpson]

We only get golfers. Sometimes

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And broken windows I presume.

 

[jumartoo]

And broken windows I presume.

So far no broken windows for us. We ARE on the third floor though

 

[Guigsy]

Whilst I have no issues with culling deer to keep a healthy population it is unfortunate that the Scottish government are becoming obsessed with wiping them out.
They are an excellent top quality food choice but are almost worthless to the game dealers. This makes culling expensive and undesirable so numbers are increasing and making them a target of government intervention due to tree damage and road casualties.

Scotland is supposed to be covered in pine forests. Continuous trees. The glens are actually artificial and caused by humans encouraging a large deer population.

Deer density and the Cairngorms (2) - the no seed source myth and natural regeneration - parkswatchscotland

In 1995 the Mar Lodge Estate was bought by the National Trust for Scotland with a £10m+ grant from the Heritage Lottery Fun and a £4.5m grant from the Easter Trust. In 1996 NTS agreed with Scottish Natural Heritage (SNH) set of principles by which the estate should be managed including that the...

parkswatchscotland.co.uk

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[Deep Owl]

Good telescopic sight and 0.338 round….. Easy.

.270 for me! A .338 will skin and barbecue it at that range.

The problem with too many deer is that they may not have enough food in winter and starve to death, which is why they need culling. There was a huge increase in numbers during the lockdowns - yet another reason they were a stupid idea.

 

[dazandandrea]

Arran last year .

on the wildlife cam at night

 

[pappajohn]

Wolves are the answer a natural predator

I believe wolves in small numbers have been released in certain Scottish regions in 2015.

https://wilderness-society.org/wolf-pack-released-in-the-scottish-highlands/.

 

[DuxDeluxe]

.270 for me! A .338 will skin and barbecue it at that range.

The problem with too many deer is that they may not have enough food in winter and starve to death, which is why they need culling. There was a huge increase in numbers during the lockdowns - yet another reason they were a stupid idea.

I have too many American friends…. You are right of course. Literally overkill

 

[Derbyshire wanderer]

Scotland is supposed to be covered in pine forests. Continuous trees. The glens are actually artificial and caused by humans encouraging a large deer population.

Deer density and the Cairngorms (2) - the no seed source myth and natural regeneration - parkswatchscotland

In 1995 the Mar Lodge Estate was bought by the National Trust for Scotland with a £10m+ grant from the Heritage Lottery Fun and a £4.5m grant from the Easter Trust. In 1996 NTS agreed with Scottish Natural Heritage (SNH) set of principles by which the estate should be managed including that the...

parkswatchscotland.co.uk

That article is spot on but the deer are here now so need managing.

Trophy hunting targets the biggest stags and bucks (poor meat quality in the rut) leaving behind other males to breed unchecked. Short term gains for long term pain.

Hinds and does marketed properly can generate their worth in the meat and make the management much more cost effective. This needs a much more joined up approach from landowners to consumers but like most joint enterprise agreements there will be one party that wants the lion’s share.

The real issue is that too few people have more deer stalking land than they can manage. Deer then spread as numbers increase and become someone else’s problem. We nowadays find it common to see them in towns and villages.

It will take some legislation to change this but an outright extermination isn’t the answer.

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[Guigsy]

That article is spot on but the deer are here now so need managing.

Trophy hunting targets the biggest stags and bucks (poor meat quality in the rut) leaving behind other males to breed unchecked. Short term gains for long term pain.

Hinds and does marketed properly can generate their worth in the meat and make the management much more cost effective. This needs a much more joined up approach from landowners to consumers but like most joint enterprise agreements there will be one party that wants the lion’s share.

The real issue is that too few people have more deer stalking land than they can manage. Deer then spread as numbers increase and become someone else’s problem. We nowadays find it common to see them in towns and villages.

It will take some legislation to change this but an outright extermination isn’t the answer.

Wolves are the answer. Pilot projects in the US that reintroduced wolves had whopping environmental benefits. Not just less deer being involved in car accidents. The reduction in deer meant more tree coverage, which increased other wildlife, reduced flooding and the area absorbed huge amounts of carbon as the forests grew.

 

[Puddleduck]

I live on the North Yorkshire moors and in the shooting season they have a JCB following the shoot and just bury them. Sad innit..

Yes, it’s indefensible to shoot them just to bury them.

What a waste of food.

 

[Derbyshire wanderer]

Wolves are the answer. Pilot projects in the US that reintroduced wolves had whopping environmental benefits. Not just less deer being involved in car accidents. The reduction in deer meant more tree coverage, which increased other wildlife, reduced flooding and the area absorbed huge amounts of carbon as the forests grew.

I think we are too populated for Wolves being a reliable and safe option. They have traits that are dangerous and getting the genie back in the bottle would be problematic if needed.
We already have enough issues with some domestic dogs so having wild pack animals on the loose could soon lead to unfortunate consequences.

 

[Guigsy]

I think we are too populated for Wolves being a reliable and safe option. They have traits that are dangerous and getting the genie back in the bottle would be problematic if needed.
We already have enough issues with some domestic dogs so having wild pack animals on the loose could soon lead to unfortunate consequences.

Studies in the US is demonstrating they are safer than not having wolves. Mostly due to less deer related road accidents. Human-wolf interactions are extremely rare.

 

[Derbyshire wanderer]

Studies in the US is demonstrating they are safer than not having wolves. Mostly due to less deer related road accidents. Human-wolf interactions are extremely rare.

But the US has a wilderness that we don’t and their deer are a lot bigger than ours so road accident outcomes would be more serious in most cases by comparison.
The potential interaction between wolves and humans here is difficult to predict especially as we generally have a different approach of interacting with wildlife compared with Americans.

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[DuxDeluxe]

Wolves are the answer. Pilot projects in the US that reintroduced wolves had whopping environmental benefits. Not just less deer being involved in car accidents. The reduction in deer meant more tree coverage, which increased other wildlife, reduced flooding and the area absorbed huge amounts of carbon as the forests grew.

It certainly worked in Yellowstone - a stunning success

 

[barryd]

They do in Richmond Park, London, both Red and Fallow herds.

Their ancestors were originally there for the King'a hunting parties.

There is limited space so those herds are culled.

An oldie but a goody. Keep watching.

 

[Guigsy]

But the US has a wilderness that we don’t and their deer are a lot bigger than ours so road accident outcomes would be more serious in most cases by comparison.
The potential interaction between wolves and humans here is difficult to predict especially as we generally have a different approach of interacting with wildlife compared with Americans.

There's trials in Germany at the moment. So more similar species.

Wolves are generally very rarely seen. They are very elusive and avoid humans. I suspect far more people will be injured by highland coos then wolves.

 

[Derbyshire wanderer]

There's trials in Germany at the moment. So more similar species.

Wolves are generally very rarely seen. They are very elusive and avoid humans. I suspect far more people will be injured by highland coos then wolves.

I am not aware of any specific trials in Germany but yes they have them predominantly near the Polish border where they have originated from. Being protected is allowing numbers to rise but the majority of land they roamed into is military property without public access.
The last 25 years of growth is now leading to debate about removing the protection they currently have.

To use them in Scotland as a form of deer control would need huge numbers and be able to roam everywhere. The idea just isn’t realistic.

 

[dryad]

(Side window) No deer but lots of dolphins & the occasional whale View attachment 1035901

loving all the country views that people are so lucky to enjoy but this coastal view is just magical and must be spectacular in a storm, am rarely envious of anything but this, well, it’s something else..

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