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How can a major manufacturer seriously believe that the positioning of these important safety devices is acceptable
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Ah, but it's a built-in safety design. If the damned things ever go off, you HAVE TO open the doors to do anything about it.How can a major manufacturer seriously believe that the positioning of these important safety devices is acceptable
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I know which manufacturer this is Being fair though there are very few options as to where else they could put them, without them causing obstruction to some opening door, cupboard or whatever, and just looking fugly. Are they really unsafe in that location? In such as small overall space, if there was as smoke problem, the occupant if awake is already going to know, or if asleep (bed space is at the back) the sensors are in any case going to be in range at similar time as the occupant.How can a major manufacturer seriously believe that the positioning of these important safety devices is acceptable
I can see plenty of other suitable places to locate the alarms where they might actually have a chance to operateI know which manufacturer this is Being fair though there are very few options as to where else they could put them, without them causing obstruction to some opening door, cupboard or whatever, and just looking fugly. Are they really unsafe in that location? In such as small overall space, if there was as smoke problem, the occupant if awake is already going to know, or if asleep (bed space is at the back) the sensors are in any case going to be in range at similar time as the occupant.
Is it actually law that there should be one, ?Well at least the manufacturers of the alarms have actually been in contact .
Have now spoken with the NCC too as how can these vehicles be sold to the public as certified safe ?
C0 detetectors need to be at least 150mm below a ceiling.Is it actually law that there should be one, ?
Why couldn't they go on the ceiling?
Then your fridge is not sealed to the hab area......but few are fitted properly.It still triggers if the fridge is on gas
Not in a privately owned leisure vehicle no .Is it actually law that there should be one, ?
Why couldn't they go on the ceiling?
Most manufacturers specify between 1200 -1500 mm from the floor but certainly not in a completely dead air space like these are fittedC0 detetectors need to be at least 150mm below a ceiling.
Because its a German van, no smoke detector either I suspect.We didn’t get any with our new 146k van disgusting
Yes that’s always surprised me ?Because its a German van, no smoke detector either I suspect.
Manufacturer / Converter of PVCs. My toy has this very common feature.Is this a manufacturer, dealer or previous owner fit?
There was actually a recall on a number of the 2019 built vans of this layout and detector positioning to check the fridge was sufficiently sealed from the hab area. Mine proved to be OK.Then your fridge is not sealed to the hab area......but few are fitted properly.It still triggers if the fridge is on gas
There should be no gaps AT ALL around, above and below the fridge
I haven’t actually been in the leisure vehicle industry for very long but it’s become clear pretty quickly that the majority of the industry is actually a complete joke.Manufacturer / Converter of PVCs. My toy has this very common feature.
There was actually a recall on a number of the 2019 built vans of this layout and detector positioning to check the fridge was sufficiently sealed from the hab area. Mine proved to be OK.
Are you sure? I thought Carbon Monoxide was slightly less dense than a normal air mix, but close enough that it generally mixed?Having been in engineering and until retiring teaching apprentices and H&S, Carbon monoxide is known as the silent killer, it is a heavier than air poisonous gas, meaning mounting a detector high up will mean you are either being poisoned or dead before it goes off, there have been numerous accounts of people dying in tents, caravans/MH, boats and even in houses with poorly maintained gas boilers.
I have just found mine clipped inside an overhead cupboard (not had MH long still finding things, was actually looking for Solar feed to check input).
After a bit of research re. MH CO alarm fitment it said it is best 4" off the floor near gas appliances, as my kitchen and heater are opposite each other and there is a small wall available that where its going, pictures to follow - toolkit time again
That's for a dual propane/CO detector. Propane is much heavier than air and will sink.
Our combo CO/smoke alarm is allowed on the ceiling according to the makers installation instructions (Kiddie)C0 detetectors need to be at least 150mm below a ceiling.
Why is it then that every CO alarm we have had says mount 150mm from ceiling?
Agree with this - major concern if CO goes off with gas fridge lit!Then your fridge is not sealed to the hab area......but few are fitted properly.
There should be no gaps AT ALL around, above and below the fridge