Schengen Area Rules

[Zepp]

Lynne is applying for a Irish passport so she can stay over the 90 days limit .

I do not have a Irish passport and my question Is does this also give me freedom of movement in the Schengen Area if I am married to Lynne and travelling with her can we both stay for more than 90 days.

Thankyou in advance for your help Paul

 

[bobandjanie]

I saw this question on Citizen advise Spain I'm afraid your not included. Bob.

 

[bobandjanie]

Apparently being married to someone with an Irish passport, if you live in Ireland for 5 years you would be able to get one. Bob.

 

[BreweryDave]

Interesting, a conversation I had just last week with Kelso who has a uk passport, and who’s wife holds a Danish passport, believes that her freedom of movement rights extend to him also as they are married.....
Hopefully he will see this post and respond with the information he has re that

 

[Zepp]

Interesting, a conversation I had just last week with Kelso who has a uk passport, and who’s wife holds a Danish passport, believes that her freedom of movement rights extend to him also as they are married.....
Hopefully he will see this post and respond with the information he has re that

That’s what we thought Dave but someone we met today told us different.

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[The Wino]

I seem to remember it's the same if a UK passport holder marries someone from another country it doesn't automatically give them the right to move and live here if they are from outside the EU.

 

[berni109]

Sound like depravation of human rights to me.
I would probable be dead by the time it's gone to the European court for a ruling.
Just because u are married does not give a right to bring your spouse into this country so why would it else where.

 

[Zepp]

After reading this blog it looks like you can travel with your spouse under
the directive below , I will look Into it more

European Directive 2004/38/EC is a EU wide directive or instruction that the Schengen rules have to comply with, therefore all of the Schengen rules, codes, and regulations are written with this in mind.

Don't Let Schengen Ruin Your European Holiday of a Lifetime

Learn about Schengen rules, the countries that are in Schengen, and how to extend your holiday and stay within the boundaries.

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[Off da Grid]

How are the authorities going to police this.
Unless we’re going to need proof of where and how long we intend to be out of the country.

 

[busby]

How are the authorities going to police this.
Unless we’re going to need proof of where and how long we intend to be out of the country.

Would imagine cameras and computers...BUSBY.

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[The Wino]

Would imagine cameras and computers...BUSBY.

Also the question isn't how will our government know it's how will the Schengen area know. I think pretty accurately.

 

[Zepp]

Your passport will be scanned when you enter and leave the Schengen area

 

[Manxcat]

I've checked this. I am like you and unfortunately you are not included. My Wife could have both a French and Irish passport but not me.

 

[Brains]

How are the authorities going to police this.
Unless we’re going to need proof of where and how long we intend to be out of the country.

Very Easily.
Both UK and Schengen area governments have been doing this for years.

You are counted in and you are counted back out again.

Overstay at your peril:
You risk
Deportation,
Being blocked for return for a number of years,
A large fine,
and your motorhome can be crushed.

And don't for one second think they wont do it, they have been doing it for many years to citizens of lots of other countries, we have voted away our free pass in exchange to being locked in.

Our children will look back in wonder at what their parents and grandparents gave away in exchange for nothing

 

[Zepp]

I've checked this. I am like you and unfortunately you are not included. My Wife could have both a French and Irish passport but not me.

I agree you cannot get a passport but if you are travelling with your partner in the Schengen area you still get freedom of movement as long as they are travelling on a EU passport

If you are travelling by yourself the Schengen rules apply ie 90 day

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[AXO66]

How are the authorities going to police this.
Unless we’re going to need proof of where and how long we intend to be out of the country.

Unfourtantley when you present your passport at the border control, when entering and then when leaving the shenegan area.

 

[gus-lopez]

I saw this question on Citizen advise Spain I'm afraid your not included. Bob.

I can't see why not as any spouse or family member of an EU citizen has the same rights in the spouses resident state.If the EU citizen moves country the non-eu spouse + any family members has an automatic right to residency so I can't see how it can be outlawed by the WA as members woud be from another EU state, i.e. Ireland?

Interesting, a conversation I had just last week with Kelso who has a uk passport, and who’s wife holds a Danish passport, believes that her freedom of movement rights extend to him also as they are married.....
Hopefully he will see this post and respond with the information he has re that

As above .It definitely applies if married .& also if you move country.

I seem to remember it's the same if a UK passport holder marries someone from another country it doesn't automatically give them the right to move and live here if they are from outside the EU.

That is just UK rules. Here in spain if an national or permanent foreign resident marries a non.eu spouse they have the right to reside & obtain a tarjeta Identidad de Extranjero automatically.

 

[AXO66]

Is one issue here, an EU passport holder living in the Uk married to an UK resident and then how long the Uk Passport holder can travel before returning. I.e can the Uk spouse travel for more than the 90 days in 180 with their EU spouse?

 

[Coolcats]

I seem to remember it's the same if a UK passport holder marries someone from another country it doesn't automatically give them the right to move and live here if they are from outside the EU.

A mate married his partner who came here from Turkey, after going through hoops of fire and about £10 later she has citizenship.

 

[Brains]

A mate married his partner who came here from Turkey, after going through hoops of fire and about £10 later she has citizenship.

I think you are missing some zero's on the cost .....

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[Coolcats]

I think you are missing some zero's on the cost .....

Well spotted I meant to type £10,000.00

 

[Zepp]

Is one issue here, an EU passport holder living in the Uk married to an UK resident and then how long the Uk Passport holder can travel before returning. I.e can the Uk spouse travel for more than the 90 days in 180 with their EU spouse?

Everything I have read so far states as long as you are travelling with your spouse on a EU passport you can travel for more than 90 days

 

[Northernraider]

My dogs have Spanish passports and are looking to travel in europe for 9 months

As their legal adopted parent and guardian does this entitle me

 

[Zepp]

Please don’t turn this thread into another brexit thread a lot of people are looking for information

 

[Chris S-S]

There is a case being brought before the EU Court regarding the fact Brexit is a different thing from the Schengzen Treaty.

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[Knowledgeseeker]

As a point of clarity, Ireland is NOT part of the Schengen area, although of course it IS in the EU. They are two different things.

 

[Zepp]

As a point of clarity, Ireland is NOT part of the Schengen area, although of course it IS in the EU. They are two different things.

I agree but they still have freedom of movement the UK was also not a member of Schengen

 

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