Raw dog good abroad.

[Parrot Face]

It seems my dog gets skin irritations from many of the dry dog foods so advised to try raw dog food. He's taken to it really well and the itching and scratching has stopped. However i'm now wondering if he should stay on it permanently as i'm uncertain if its readily available abroard. Any advice.

 

[15edward]

We feed our dog raw but when we travel we take Natures Menu pouches. He adapts without an issue. Just does more poos.

 

[acropolis22]

It seems my dog gets skin irritations from many of the dry dog foods so advised to try raw dog food. He's taken to it really well and the itching and scratching has stopped. However i'm now wondering if he should stay on it permanently as i'm uncertain if its readily available abroard. Any advice.

Is raw dog really that good? I reckon it would be better cooked.

 

[Gromett]

Is raw dog really that good? I reckon it would be better cooked.

Look at what wolves eat. That is dogs hereditary food.

The downside to raw food is you need to keep it well and get it from good sources.

Jim know shed loads about this subject.

 

[Aireworth]

It suits some dogs very well, but million of dogs do just fine on prepared commercial food. There's some potential plusses, some minuses but, after 30 years of listening to the arguments for and against, its not the holy grail of canine nutrition some of its supporters consider it to be, IMO.

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[Wingingit#1]

Our dog is 'sensitive' but just went 'grain free' and tadaaah no more itching .

 

[Aireworth]

Our dog is 'sensitive' but just went 'grain free' and tadaaah no more itching .

I take your point, but grain free doesn't have to be raw.

 

[Jim]

It suits some dogs very well, but million of dogs do just fine on prepared commercial food. There's some potential plusses, some minuses but, after 30 years of listening to the arguments for and against, its not the holy grail of canine nutrition some of its supporters consider it to be, IMO.

I'd disagree. Millions of kids do just fine on a staple of pizza and chips.

 

[Aireworth]

I'd disagree. Millions of kids do just fine on a staple of pizza and chips.

Not many human nutritionists would consider pizza and chips to be a balanced complete diet for kids, whereas most canine nutritionists would consider complete commercial dogfood to be a balanced canine diet - (and in most countries the law would ensure they are).
I'm not against raw foods, they are just not the bees knees some of their supporters seem to think they are.
Anyway this has become a bit of a thread hijack, so I'm out of here.

 

[Jim]

It seems my dog gets skin irritations from many of the dry dog foods so advised to try raw dog food. He's taken to it really well and the itching and scratching has stopped. However i'm now wondering if he should stay on it permanently as i'm uncertain if its readily available abroard. Any advice.

Definitely try to keep him on it permanently. There are plenty of options. Take a look at this article wrote about Raw Dog Food and motorhomes. Hope it helps

Raw Dog Food and Motorhome Touring

Many people believe that raw food is best for their dogs. In the last couple of years, feeding raw has become popular and there are lots of companies offering complete frozen meals, delivered to your door for your freezer, just thaw and feed. It is very convenient. We are a proponent of raw...

www.mfun.uk

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[15edward]

As a Compromise in Spain we bought bags of chicken wings which fitted in the freezer in the van. Needed to think a bit other additional s to his diet
But it worked out well

 

[Jim]

whereas most canine nutritionists would consider complete commercial dogfood to be a balanced canine diet -

They might, but the point I was making is that most of the popular brands of dog food are Pizza and Chips equivalents

 

[Jim]

As a Compromise in Spain we bought bags of chicken wings which fitted in the freezer in the van. Needed to think a bit other additional s to his diet
But it worked out well

In the summer Jazz loves frozen chicken wings straight out of the freezer.

 

[Aireworth]

They might, but the point I was making is that most of the popular brands of dog food are Pizza and Chips equivalents

Well that's where you've been misinformed, I fear.

 

[jockaneezer]

Our adopted 35kg GWP was on dry food when we got him, he would poop 4 or 5 times a day, the size and consistency of a £4 Mr Whippy (without the flake !) since he's been on a BARF diet, he poops a couple of times a day, two or three firm golf ball sized doings that in comparison, are a pleasure to pick up !

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[Jim]

Well that's where you've been misinformed, I fear.

Any canine nutritionist specialist that says dog foods that are full of soy, corn and wheat are a healthy balanced diet, is a fool

 

[Jim]

The Canine nutrition Specialist at Chudleys one of the most popular brands of dog food at Pets at Home. Must have got his Leporidae and his Canines mixed up when he passed this.

Chudley Adult Lite Dog Food

Ingredients:
Whole grain wheat, Whole grain oats, Chicken meal, Whole grain maize, Whole grain barley, Chicken liver, Unmolassed beet pulp, Rice, Prairie meal, Yeast, Alfalfa, Peas, Carrots, Salmon oil, Dicalcium phosphate, Sodium bicarbonate, Potassium chloride, Cinnamon, Fructose & mannan oligosaccharides, Yucca, Blackcurrant, Kale, Spinach, Beetroot, Rosemary, Rosehip & Pomegranate.

Praire Meal is wild game killed on the prairie? rather it's the dried by-product of the manufacture of maize starch. · It consists principally of gluten obtained during the separation of the starch.


Like I said, Pizza and Chips

 

[tonyidle]

We feed exclusively raw (and whatever veggies we're eating on the day). When travelling we feed Lily's Kitchen. The dogs switch from one to the other happily (change in poo size though).

 

[makems]

Is raw dog really that good? I reckon it would be better cooked.

I agree. Korean meatballs really are the dogs bollocks.

 

[Aireworth]

The Canine nutrition Specialist at Chudleys one of the most popular brands of dog food at Pets at Home. Must have got his Leporidae and his Canines mixed up when he passed this.

Chudley Adult Lite Dog Food

Ingredients:
Whole grain wheat, Whole grain oats, Chicken meal, Broken Link RemovedWhole grain barley, Chicken liver, Unmolassed beet pulp, Rice, Prairie meal, Yeast, Alfalfa, Peas, Carrots, Salmon oil, Dicalcium phosphate, Sodium bicarbonate, Potassium chloride, Cinnamon, Fructose & mannan oligosaccharides, Yucca, Blackcurrant, Kale, Spinach, Beetroot, Rosemary, Rosehip & Pomegranate.

Praire Meal is wild game killed on the prairie? rather it's the dried by-product of the manufacture of maize starch. · It consists principally of gluten obtained during the separation of the starch.


Like I said, Pizza and Chips

And yet dogs are omnivores....
(I'm gone - see you after skiing )

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[Jim]

And yet dogs are omnivores....
(I'm gone - see you after skiing )

They have to be to survive on all that Pizza and Chips

 

[Parrot Face]

There's a web site that is written by a bit of a boffin who worked as a nutritional scientist for one of the dog food manufacturers he gives a score out of 5 for most foods. Bakers which has to be probably the most popular dog food in the uk almost gets a zero as he believes it contains a form of anti freeze as a preservative.

 

[Jim]

There's a web site that is written by a bit of a boffin who worked as a nutritional scientist for one of the dog food manufacturers he gives a score out of 5 for most foods. Bakers which has to be probably the most popular dog food in the uk almost gets a zero as he believes it contains a form of anti freeze as a preservative.

Not only is it super heated the ingredients look awful. More meat on a pepperoni Pizza

Wholegrain Cereals 55% (Including min. 4% Wheat, 4% Maize), Meat and Animal Derivatives 15% (Including min 7% Beef), Derivatives of Vegetable Origin, Oils and Fats, Vegetable Protein Extracts, Glycerol, Vegetables (0.3% Dried Pea, 0.3% Dried Carrot), Minerals, Propylene Glycol.

 

[jockaneezer]

There's one good thing about Baker's, the subsequent turds are bright orange and easier to dodge on the local footpaths !

 

[Reallyretired]

I bought some bakers once because ir was so popular. The dogs loved it but I didn't get it any more after seeing the crap that's in it.

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[InvictaMoto]

My lad has been on raw for about 8 years. With canned food he had gut problems and seemed to poo about the same volume as went in.

He generally has working dog Natural Instinct (brand) and these are complete with veg etc. Poos less often and oddly his poo is less in volume and consistency.

Plus his breathe is much better since moving to raw!

He also has a raw chicken wing everyday.

Rather than run the gauntlet of the EU jobsworths we buy "Dogador" from Picard at Coquelles. It's not complete so we add peas and carrots to it when feeding.

Sadly it's not available at all Picard stores across France. Instead we feed him beef or beef/pork mince from the supermarket and add veggies as required.

The vet when we had the AHC done in December was surprised at his teeth and weight. He's 12yo. The dog not the vet.

 

[Fraggle 22]

Our big dog has a very sensitive digestive system. After extensive research I have settled on a complete diet based on Sweet potato and Turkey or lamb. At £52 a bag not the cheapest dog food but he has thrived on it. He has been on the same brand for 4 years. What we pick up from him is not extensive.
I would never feed raw food. After watching a tv programme about feeding dogs - by a Vet- showing the bacteria on raw food which can not only affect the dog but also the humans - no thank you. Complete food has everything needed by the dog and the itching/ scratching can be caused by other things.

 

[Ridgeway]

I know a friend that feeds raw chicken that she buys from supermarkets when she travels as she can’t carry enough and keep it fresh (4 big woofers). She just buys those large packs of wings etc they certainly wolf them down.

Here we still feed pizza and chips, just chuffing expensive ones that had odd names…

As a young lad i worked in a pet shop and the most bought dog food was vitalin that seemed to basically be cornflakes ok crushed maize and a few biscuits in there (This was 40yrs ago).

 

[Jim]

I would never feed raw food. After watching a tv programme about feeding dogs - by a Vet- showing the bacteria on raw food which can not only affect the dog but also the humans - no thank you.

Do you use raw meat in your own kitchen! The dangers are exactly the same. There are plenty of raw dog food suppliers who supply only meat certified for human consumption. You do need to be scrupulous about hygiene when dealing with raw food, no matter who is going to eat it.

 

[Just smiffy]

As a boy our dogs had a can of chappie or a pedigree chum as a treat… they seemed to do ok, I quite liked chappie It tasted a bit like salami….

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