Possible timescale for introduction of UK Pet Passports

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The following document has been posted on Facebook by an Official Veterinarian (OV) who issues AHCs/EHCs, stating it was 'presented by some organisations involved in this industry'. It does not seem to be possible to track down the actual document on the internet - or at least I have failed to do so. Make of it what you will. :Smile:

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That’s interesting. On that basis we’ll renew Nala’s 3 years ago rabies in EU a little early.
 
Looking at that, I'm glad I got the Spanish ones. If the government says possibly 2026 and likely 2027, then we have to assume 2028 or 29. Any government timetable is always late on delivery
 
That extract talking about meat/animal products though. Would it be same legislation for pet movements?
 
I would say that is a knowledgeable estimate.

Certainly nothing official, but obviously close to the process and perhaps from a body or person involved in consultations.
 
That extract talking about meat/animal products though. Would it be same legislation for pet movements?
I'm guessing that because Pet Passports come under the 'Food standards' heading it will all be dealt with as a package and be applied at the same time.

However, the requirements to become a Part 1 listed country (which is presumably what we will become) are as below:

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These requirements appear very easy for us to comply with and, as we have issued Pet Passports in the past, the knowledge and infrastructure to do so again is already there. The only thing to be decided really about the new UK Pet Passport itself is the colour of the cover and the national emblem. I favour purple with a British Bulldog emblem myself. :wink:

For info on Pet Passports issued by other Part 1 listed countries see:


I am still puzzled as to just where Norway fits into the scheme of things tho'. They can issue their own Pet Passports but are not listed on the EU page as being Part 1 listed. :unsure:

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So what is Norway classified as? Anyone know?
 
I posted the following article from Politico.eu (18 July) in another thread but it is more appropriate here.


U.K. Prime Minister Keir Starmer wants voters to see the benefits of his Brexit reset through lower prices in the supermarket — sooner, rather than later.

London wants detailed negotiations on a planned agri-food agreement to begin in the fall and conclude in the first part of 2026, according to a senior U.K. government official with knowledge of preparations for talks.

The ambitious timetable exceeds the expectations of some in industry. Fran Barnes, the chief executive of the Horticultural Trades Association, said the planned agreement “could not be more welcome, nor come soon enough.”

The senior U.K. official, who spoke to POLITICO on condition of anonymity, added that the government was keen for the British public to start seeing the benefits of the new agreements before the run-up to the next general election.

It comes as the European Commission on Wednesday published its draft negotiating plans for the sanitary and phytosanitary (SPS) agreement, which is intended to remove cross-channel border checks on plant and animal products by aligning Britain with EU standards.

The Commission has also published its early draft mandate on linking the U.K. and EU's emissions trading systems. Both proposals have to be approved by member states before the EU's executive can get down to business.


Source: https://www.politico.eu/article/bri...armer-agriculture-food-negotiations-eu-trade/

It will be interesting to see how the actual timescale for the reintroduction of UK/GB Pet Passports plays out in relation to that suggested in the opening post of this thread. :Smile:
 
Revisiting this thread brought the enigma of Norway to mind again. Norway, although not an EU member, is able to issue its own Pet Passports - yet it is not a Part 1 listed country. Norway is a member of the European Economic Area (EEA) along with Iceland and Liechtenstein, but these two are Part 1 listed countries. So why isn't Norway?

I have just done a bit of delving and uncovered the answer, although I freely admit that I do not understand all the technicalities of it. :RollEyes:

Although not an EU member, Norway is not regarded as a third country either - it is in a unique, but apparently unnamed, class of its own! :clap2:

Norway originally was a Part 1 listed country under EU Regulations 576/2013 and 577/2013. In 2016, Decision 66/2016 of the EEA Joint Committee incorporated these regulations into the EEA Agreement. However because of legal technicalities this Decision did not apply to Iceland or Liechtenstein and was therefore only fully applicable to Norway. Annex I of the EEA Agreement was subsequently amended to say that 'Norway shall not be regarded as a third country'. As a result, the cover of the Norwegian Pet Passport would henceforth include the words 'European Union/Norway' and the flags of both Norway and the EU.


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Source: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELEX:22017D2017

It then took until 2019, when Implementing Regulation 2019/1293 was introduced, to actually remove Norway from the list of Part 1 countries in Annex II of EU 577/2013.

Source: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELEX:32019R1293

So now you know - even if you didn't know you wanted to! :rofl:

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Thanks Maz your information is invaluable however I am still not sure of the time scale for UK to recommence Pet Passports .
We have just arrived in France and it was our intention to travel to Belgium to obtain EU passports for our 3 dogs but I’m not sure it will be worth it now .

Also any links please on Belgium Vets ? I have learned so much from your other threads on EU PP x
 
Thanks Maz your information is invaluable however I am still not sure of the time scale for UK to recommence Pet Passports .
We have just arrived in France and it was our intention to travel to Belgium to obtain EU passports for our 3 dogs but I’m not sure it will be worth it now .

Also any links please on Belgium Vets ? I have learned so much from your other threads on EU PP x
Hi Janjojo1996@ and welcome to the Fun!
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No-one is sure of the timescale for UK Pet Passports to make their reappearance. We will be following any developments and posting them here.

The 'usual suspect' Belgian vets are Lieve de Rycke in Bruges, Piet de Laender in Bruges (although he did recently mention to a Funster that he was no longer issuing them), Caroline Peeters in Ostend, and Christine Jaucot in Mons.
 
Interesting! I really hope we rejoin the pet passport scheme. We just took our new dog to France for the first time and it was a right faff getting the AHC, and very expensive. Once there, we booked a vet appointment for the tapeworm treatment, rabies jab and pet passport for a couple of days before we came back. So we now have a French passport for her for next trip. But it would be good to know we could get her next booster done in UK in 3 years time and not have to tie it in to a trip to EU. That said, France is much cheaper….rabies jab, tapeworm treatment, consultation and new passport cost us 102 euros…and this passport will last her for life.
 
We did the same for our son's dog last summer but the vet required iCad registration too and that was not finished before they went home so the actual issue of the passport was not until their Xmas trip. The iCad registration is a requirement for dogs resident in France although it is often demanded for dogs of other nationalities too.
 
Interesting! I really hope we rejoin the pet passport scheme. We just took our new dog to France for the first time and it was a right faff getting the AHC, and very expensive. Once there, we booked a vet appointment for the tapeworm treatment, rabies jab and pet passport for a couple of days before we came back. So we now have a French passport for her for next trip. But it would be good to know we could get her next booster done in UK in 3 years time and not have to tie it in to a trip to EU. That said, France is much cheaper….rabies jab, tapeworm treatment, consultation and new passport cost us 102 euros…and this passport will last her for life.
Well done on obtaining a French Pet Passport! (y)

There is a lot going on behind the scenes with Pet Passports at the moment - both the EU and the much-anticipated UK/GB versions.

By the end of September the draft of the new EU regulation on pet travel should be available for public comment. From what we have gleaned so far, there will be some form of residency requirement for EU Pet Passports - but whether this will apply to their use as well as their issue is difficult to ascertain at the moment. This new regulation will replace the current EU 576/2013 on 21 April next year. However mention has been made of a transition period until the end of 2027, but whether this will apply to the entire new regulation or just parts of it is also unclear at this stage. We are following developments in the following thread:


Re the UK/GB Pet Passport, there will be a lot of negotiating to be done between the UK and EU to formulate the SPS agreement. The driver for this is agri-food trade with Pet Passports really just a tag-along item. Once agreement is actually reached and the necessary parliamentary authorisation obtained, the introduction of Pet Passports should be relatively rapid.
 
Well done on obtaining a French Pet Passport! (y)

There is a lot going on behind the scenes with Pet Passports at the moment - both the EU and the much-anticipated UK/GB versions.

By the end of September the draft of the new EU regulation on pet travel should be available for public comment. From what we have gleaned so far, there will be some form of residency requirement for EU Pet Passports - but whether this will apply to their use as well as their issue is difficult to ascertain at the moment. This new regulation will replace the current EU 576/2013 on 21 April next year. However mention has been made of a transition period until the end of 2027, but whether this will apply to the entire new regulation or just parts of it is also unclear at this stage. We are following developments in the following thread:


Re the UK/GB Pet Passport, there will be a lot of negotiating to be done between the UK and EU to formulate the SPS agreement. The driver for this is agri-food trade with Pet Passports really just a tag-along item. Once agreement is actually reached and the necessary parliamentary authorisation obtained, the introduction of Pet Passports should be relatively rapid.
I would imagine it would be their issue as quite difficult to police use as many like us have homes in France too.
 
I would imagine it would be their issue as quite difficult to police use as many like us have homes in France too.
The perceived 'second home' requirement never had any standing in law. It just stemmed from the notoriously badly-worded 'Br*x*t statement' on the I-cad website, which was frequently quoted as 'law' when it was no such thing. That statement finally disappeared from the I-cad website about a year ago.

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Minor detail but probably a positive

As part of the recent government reshuffle, Emma Reynolds has taken over as Secretary of State for DEFRA. Before becoming an MP she ran a lobbying company in Brussels, helping British companies to engage with the EU, so hopefully this sort of experience will prove useful in dealing with UK-EU SPS negotiations.

Also, the EFRA Committee 'call for evidence' consultation closed on Friday so hopefully they will now start developing a detailed negotiating plan.
 
The following document has been posted on Facebook by an Official Veterinarian (OV) who issues AHCs/EHCs, stating it was 'presented by some organisations involved in this industry'. It does not seem to be possible to track down the actual document on the internet - or at least I have failed to do so. Make of it what you will. :Smile:

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This government will not be in power when it’s due to come in so I would forget about uk pet passports
 
This government will not be in power when it’s due to come in so I would forget about uk pet passports
That will be down to the electorate to decide. In the meantime I will continue to add information relevant to the subject in this thread.
 
Minor development

With all the 'excitement' of the Trump visit last week, I missed seeing any mention of the following minor development. Other than a couple of tabloids, any serious newspaper articles on the subject are tucked away behind paywalls. So I have referred to the Chartered Institute of Export and International Trade website as the most reputable source that I am able to access.

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Source: https://www.export.org.uk/insights/...-to-start-on-uk-fee-for-eu-defence-programme/

Somewhat strangely, the article above does not iterate the referred-to 'timetable' but the transcript of a speech given by Nick Thomas-Symonds on 27 August states it as follows:

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Source: https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/speech-on-the-uks-future-relationship-with-the-european-union
 
So will thay be introduced before the end of the year?
It ok just read the eu crap not this year dogs will die of old age before dog passports come back in
WB
 
So will thay be introduced before the end of the year?
Not the end of this year for certain. The goal seems to be by the end of 2026 but the announcement that the EU wants progress on the youth mobility scheme before they will start negotiating on SPS could push that back a bit.
 
Another small spanner in the works

An article in today's Financial Times (that I can't read as it's behind a substantial paywall) - very brief synopsis in screenshot below:

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Anyone here an FT subscriber that could provide more details, please?

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The political clowns play their games and we're stuck in the middle
 

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