Out of date secondhand regulators on EBay

[Captain Yoghurtpot]

But then you may get some that will go that route and fit huge battery banks and that then has its own risks attached.
Whatever way you go there will be some risk.

Agreed, but thats not me either with all the ' blue boxes' etc etc.
Like to keep it simple, me.

 

[B-JandBella]

I think your bashing a hornets nest here!
So this means that every so often, we have to change our regulators when they say they are out of date?
How can they put a date on items made of brass and other materials?
The Chain Bridge in Scotland was built 40 years prior to Bristol Suspension Bridge (by IKB), so is that out of date?
My van is 24 years old! Is it then..... out of date?
I've read they have found HONEY that is over 4000 years old and still edible! That's a "WOW" from me!
I know what some of you are thinking.........Yes, it is the most purist of foods made by our beautiful declining insects, the Bee's, and will NEVER go out of date! Not even the glass jar it comes in, will go out of date! Okay, maybe the lid might go a bit rusty, but hey, the honey is still good.......
But where are we going with this?
If it's not damaged, then yes, it's still good.
I'm old school, and if it ain't broken, don't fix it.....Just use it!
Sorry if i'm sounding a little pedantic, but some things are just trivial (and I've had a couple of shandies by this point!)
Boy, I'm looking forward to the comments on this one.

 

[Tombola]

So Im off to work tomorrow getting the 47kg propane tanks and heaters attached to them checked

 

[B-JandBella]

So is an out of date regulator in use a critical safety issue ?
What's the worst that could happen ?

Even a brand new regulator can be faulty.........who knows?
What's out of date in your house?...........bet your not going to check every appliance?
And we spend more time at home than we do in the MoHo!!!!!!!!!
Time to think, I jest!!

 

[B-JandBella]

Just noticed there are idiots selling out of date secondhand gas regulators on EBay.
Crazy
https://ebay.us/m/r2Xthn

How many appliances "Out of Date" in your house then"?
Have you checked recently?

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[Lenny HB]

How can they put a date on items made of brass and other materials?

It's not the brass but the other materials that have a life span.

 

[Minxy]

This begs the question ... what lifespan do the hoses that are used to connect home gas cookers to the mains have? Are they supposed to be renewed every so often?

 

[Lenny HB]

This begs the question ... what lifespan do the hoses that are used to connect home gas cookers to the mains have? Are they supposed to be renewed every so often?

I plumbed my gas hob in copper no flexable.

 

[B-JandBella]

It's not the brass but the other materials that have a life span.

?

 

[StillGoing]

How can they put a date on items made of brass and other materials?

The inside of the regulator contains springs and a diaphragm. Those are the bits that have a life expectancy not the metal that encases them.

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[scotjimland]

?

they have a rubber diaphragm and valve that controls the pressure, .. it can perish , and let high pressure gas enter the low pressure side ..ie into to the gas appliances.

 

[The Old Man]

im not sure which is scarier the fact people are selling them or the fact people would be stupid enoug to buy a secondhand regulator let alone an out of date 1

+1

But if you don't know, you don't know and if no one tells you...

For many years my caravan flexible gas pipe was out of date, only when selling the van did a prospective purchaser pointed out the all the gas fittings were time expired!

Only when I joined here did I learn that tyres were dated!

And even having learnt much, I was showing someone my GasIt LPG installation that I turned the gas bottles to find that on the dark side they were stamped 2029! So I assume that they will need replacing then, and as the system is two years old, do they only have a six year shelf live or was I diddled with old or second hand stock?

 

[scotjimland]

So I assume that they will need replacing then, and as the system is two years old, do they only have a six year shelf live or was I diddled with old or second hand stock?

as I understand, at 10 years they should be replaced

 

[clanjones]

Yep just replaced our alugas LPG bottles as they were 10 years old. I guess it all depends on your attitude to risk. Should see us through until we are finished with the van!

 

[activecampers]

Wait till you check your vehicle airbags...... 10/15y life expectancy. Who ever proactively checks/changes those?

...and wait for the modern cars to put a yellow light on saying "airbag reached EOL replace now" and fail MOT (or refuse to start) until £1000s are spent on replacements which will be either main dealer only £xxxxxxxx or made of unobtanium and writing off the vehicle......

/cynic

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[The Old Man]

as I understand, at 10 years they should be replaced

That's what I guessed at and they were already four years old when fitted.

But a bit like tyres, the date made to when fitted is a mystery if they've been lost in a stock room for an age!

Some years back during my learning curve of tyre dates, I used the Kwik Fit, supply and fitting at your location service.

On time a young lad arrive on the storage site, jacked up my van, fitted four new tyres, balanced them, fitted the wheels back on my van and departed, great service with no complaints.

Until the next day when having learnt something about tyre life I discovered that my NEW tyres were already five years old!

I contacted Kwik Fit and progressed through may excuses and how it didn't matter, I told them that I was going to consult the AA legal advice department on the grounds that with the low milage on a motorhome the tyres would time expire before they wore their tread!

Within days I received a letter from them, politely informing me that they were sure that I understood that it was a large cost to them to send out a mobile unit to replace with newer (not new) tyres? I did but didn't care.

So they offered that as the tyres were 50% time expired how would I view a 50% refund and a Halford voucher for £x.

My Credit Card was credited by end of business.

 

[B-JandBella]

It's not the brass but the other materials that have a life span.

I stand corrected

 

[Tombola]

What about this one..where is the dom on this

 

[activecampers]

What about this one..where is the dom on this

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Don't know, as I understood the regs, you should be using a bulkhead regulator, not bottle, and rubber pipes are not permitted unless connected to a portable device, and even then rubber coated clips should be used not just metal? So a few things to consider apart from the dom of regulator.

*Awaits correction from Basildog so feel free to ignore my view of life

 

[Lenny HB]

Don't know, as I understood the regs, you should be using a bulkhead regulator,

Not correct, most German vans come with a bottle top regulator as standard a bulkhead one is is either in an options pack or an option.

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[Tombola]

Don't know, as I understood the regs, you should be using a bulkhead regulator, not bottle, and rubber pipes are not permitted unless connected to a portable device, and even then rubber coated clips should be used not just metal? So a few things to consider apart from the dom of regulator.

*Awaits correction from Basildog so feel free to ignore my view of life

I see, so because it leads to a bulkhead one its fine ?

 

[DT]

You must also check fire extinguisher dates carefully, Found several already two years old on the shelf of a large retail shop near Welshpool.

 

[mitzimad]

they have a rubber diaphragm and valve that controls the pressure, .. it can perish , and let high pressure gas enter the low pressure side ..ie into to the gas appliances.

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looking at that diagram it is obviously designed so if the diaphram ruptures only a small amount of gas is expelled before the vent limiting device kicks in thereby failing to a safe situation

 

[activecampers]

Not correct, most German vans come with a bottle top regulator as standard a bulkhead one is is either in an options pack or an option.

Thanks for that view. I can't find the source I used, and googling just shows advisories, so happy to be corrected. I thought it was post a certain date to standardise the low pressure. I was only looking at UK recommendations previously and for particular bottle type, so may well be linked to that.

 

[B+W vanman]

I see, so because it leads to a bulkhead one its fine ?

So, you have a system that consists of: gas bottle>clip on regulator>rubber hose>bulkhead regulator >rigid pipe?
I’d be interested to learn whether that meets the regulations (if there are any, obviously)

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[activecampers]

I see, so because it leads to a bulkhead one its fine ?

Not sure what you are eluding to, I'm assuming flexi pipe. so feel free to correct. If you are on about a flexi to a bulkhead regulator, then yes, that is fine as long as it is in an enclosed gas locker. (again, aiui). Using flexi to fixed appliances outside of locker in MH isn't permitted. I'm assuming the rubber pipe doesn't go to a second regulator a manifold inside a sealed gas locker and then copper from there? If that assumption is wrong then my comment is null and void. Note lots of assumptions here so, meh, feel free to disregard

 

[Tombola]

Not sure what you are eluding to, I'm assuming flexi pipe. so feel free to correct. If you are on about a flexi to a bulkhead regulator, then yes, that is fine as long as it is in an enclosed gas locker. (again, aiui). Using flexi to fixed appliances outside of locker in MH isn't permitted. I'm assuming the rubber pipe doesn't go to a second regulator a manifold inside a sealed gas locker and then copper from there? If that assumption is wrong then my comment is null and void. Note lots of assumptions here so, meh, feel free to disregard

Bottle has the imageof regulator I shown attached in the gas locker, then a rubber pipe to small bore copper, then to bulk head with 3 taps, then copper on from there

 

[Ditcha]

What about this one..where is the dom on this

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12/8/64 wow that's a old one

 

[Tombola]

12/8/64 wow that's a old one

like me

 

[Northernraider]

Toilet paper has a best before date.

Bet you never knew that .

Still wipes OK though

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