OIL AND FILTER CHANGE

[rob1234]

HI could use a bit of advice on servicing i done the oil and filter a year ago and i have only covered about 2 thousand miles since would you do it again now, or leave it for a few more miles ,,thanks oh its a fiat based ducato 150bhp 2018

 

[Googlebot]

Yes, low mileage means it’s even more imperative the oil is changed. Condensation can build up in engines not used much and dilute the oil.

Quick and easy job and less than £50.

 

[rob1234]

Yes, low mileage means it’s even more imperative the oil is changed. Condensation can build up in engines not used much and dilute the oil.

Quick and easy job and less than £50.

Thanks..I get it ordered...

 

[rob1234]

Yes, low mileage means it’s even more imperative the oil is changed. Condensation can build up in engines not used much and dilute the oil.

Quick and easy job and less than £50.

hi what oil do you use and where do i get it for £50 with filter ,,

 

[Figaro]

Usually online for best price, euro car parts or gsf car parts delivered or local pick up.
I think the 50 pounds was an indication it's not an expensive job to diy, rather than a calculated quotation.

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[gus-lopez]

Yes, low mileage means it’s even more imperative the oil is changed

This^^^^^^^^

 

[rob1234]

Usually online for best price, euro car parts or gsf car parts delivered or local pick up.
I think the 50 pounds was an indication it's not an expensive job to diy, rather than a calculated quotation.

oh ok thought he had somewhere special ,,looking more like £70 now ,,that's covid for you ,,eh

 

[rob1234]

Yes, low mileage means it’s even more imperative the oil is changed. Condensation can build up in engines not used much and dilute the oil.

Quick and easy job and less than £50.

hi again do you think even if its long journeys ie,,2 hour trips ,,i did ,,i dont do start,, stop journeys it still needs changing ,,?

 

[rob1234]

any one used this just found it on line

Status Car Care 5W30 C3 DEXOS 2 20 Litre Oil 20L Fully Synthetic 5W/30 C3 engine oil is produced from high quality synthetic base oils and top-tier performance additives.​

 

[Steve N Tracy]

Euro 6 Ducato's are 0w/30 not 5w/30

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[Stealaway]

I'm happy to use 5/30.
0w is only Fiat's attempt a low emissions at start up and another attempt at selling a very expensive oil.
I change mine every two years and 16,000 miles.

 

[Googlebot]

hi what oil do you use and where do i get it for £50 with filter ,,

Sorry, I do it myself. Couldn’t tell you which oil, I just get whatever my local motor factor has in.

Think it was £47 last month all in.

 

[TheBig1]

The thing with synthetics, is they get acidic if left in on a low mileage engine for extended periods. The Fiat commercial 2 year interval is based more on a typical mileage or when that mileage is reached if under 2 years. I still think it's folly to not change oils yearly to protect a very substantial investment. For most of us the purchase of our motorhome is only second in cost to our homes. You think nothing of servicing the boiler in your house every year

 

[dunnah01]

I wouldn't bother tbh. Save a few quid and a bit of the planet by extending your oil life, your engine won't notice. Very, very worst case scenario is that you'll need a bottom end rebuild every 20 years or so, not a worry compared to all the other Moho things you'll need to worry about

 

[jezport]

Yes, low mileage means it’s even more imperative the oil is changed. Condensation can build up in engines not used much and dilute the oil.

Quick and easy job and less than £50.

Condensation cannot dilute oil. Oil and water don't mix. Short trips can cause condensation in the engine which would show asmayonaise in the filler cap. It would boil off on a longer trip.
At 12 months and 2000 miles the oil will be as new and not worth changing. Your would do it more good taking it for a decent drive.

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[Googlebot]

Condensation cannot dilute oil. Oil and water don't mix. Short trips can cause condensation in the engine which would show asmayonaise in the filler cap. It would boil off on a longer trip.
At 12 months and 2000 miles the oil will be as new and not worth changing. Your would do it more good taking it for a decent drive.

Okay, it’s not my area of expertise but the Haynes manual says it becomes diluted.

Either way, if in doubt, it gets changed every 6 months and 2000 miles a year isn’t a well used hot engine in most circumstances.

John

 

[jezport]

Okay, it’s not my area of expertise but the Haynes manual says it becomes diluted.


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Either way, if in doubt, it gets changed every 6 months and 2000 miles a year isn’t a well used hot engine in most circumstances.

John

Diluted by diesel maybe in time but not 1 year or 2000 miles. You would notice dilution as the oil level would rise or the oil change warning would come on. Plus its only caused by forced DPF regenerations which would not happen for many thousands of miles.
Fiat advise 2 year 36000 miles oil change. I do mine around 12 to 18 months or 6000 miles which I'm sure is still more than necessary.

 

[Sandancers]

I emailed Castrol tech services as I had read on their website that the oil was good for 20000 / 2 years. I explained it was for a MH which did 5000 miles per year. Would they advise 2 year oil change or more frequent. They said 2 year was fine.

Now you might say they missed a chance to sell more oil, or they were being genuine in their tech advice, your choice.

 

[rob1234]

I emailed Castrol tech services as I had read on their website that the oil was good for 20000 / 2 years. I explained it was for a MH which did 5000 miles per year. Would they advise 2 year oil change or more frequent. They said 2 year was fine.

Now you might say they missed a chance to sell more oil, or they were being genuine in their tech advice, your choice.

That sound like good advice think I leave it till next year...got enough to spend on cam belt this year...

 

[poppycamper]

This been on here a few times and the answers you will get is definitely change it..... definitely leave it..
For what it's worth I change my engine oil every year regardless of milage or use..

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[gus-lopez]

Fully Synthetic 5W/30 C3 engine

Yes but is c3 comparable? most these days need acea 4 or 5

I'm happy to use 5/30.
0w is only Fiat's attempt a low emissions at start up and another attempt at selling a very expensive oil.
I change mine every two years and 16,000 miles.

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That is only for acea 2 or 3 yours probably requires at least acea 4 more likely 5.

 

[rob1234]

Yes but is c3 comparable? most these days need acea 4 or 5


That is only for acea 2 or 3 yours probably requires at least acea 4 more likely 5.

apparently yes this is the oil recommended by opie oils ,,

Quick View: Millers Oils XF Premium C2/C3 5w-30 Fully Synthetic Engine Oil​

Performance Profile:

• API SN
• ACEA C2/C3
• BMW Longlife-04 (Approval Pending)
• MB 229.52 (Approval Pending), MB 229.51
• Opel/Vauxhall OV0401547 (Approval Pending)
• Renault RN0700 / RN0710

Suitable For:

• API CF
• Chrysler MS-11106
• Fiat 9.55535-S3, Fiat 9.55535-S1
• GM dexos 2, GM-LL-B-025, GM-LL-A-025
• MB 229.31, MB 226.5
• PSA B71-2290 <2014
• VW 502 00 / 505 01, VW 502 00 / 505 00
• VW 500 00 / 501 01
• Dacia*
• Asian manufacturers**

 

[Stealaway]

That is only for acea 2 or 3 yours probably requires at least acea 4 more likely 5.

They stock two fully synthetic oils. One is basically for Fiat/BMW and another one for Ford.
My son has two BMW's and only looks for the C3 spec and I've been happy because it suits Fiat as well.
I'm going to check out the specs now - thanks for that
The price has gone up £25 per can for both

 

[Stealaway]

That is only for acea 2 or 3 yours probably requires at least acea 4 more likely 5.

Its a mine field but I cant find any recommended oil at acea 4 or 5

https://rockoil.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/AUTOMOTIVE-ENGINE-OIL-RANGE-INFO-SHEET_I22.pdf

Rock Oil Synthesis F 5W-30 Engine Oil » Tyne and Wear Oils

Rock Oil Synthesis F 5W-30 Engine Oil Rock Oil Synthesis F 5W-30 fully synthetic engine oil is a premium engine oil specifically for use in Ford and Jaguar Land Rover vehicles.

twoils.co.uk

Synthesis Sport 5W-30 - Rock Oil

rockoil.co.uk

Selenia WR Forward 0W-30 Euro 6 engine oil for the new Fiat Ducato motorhome engines

Selenia WR (Wide Range) 0W-30 is the new fully synthetic engine oil specially made by Fiat for diesel engines with Euro 6 standards.

The viscosity grade of 0W-30 has a direct influence on the fuel consumption and reduces it, thereby reducing the production of CO2.

Original Fiat engine oil offers the following advantages

• minimizes fuel consumption
• High thermal stability
• Increased engine protection through the use of the original oil

Technical specifications

• SAE 0W-30
• ACEA C2
• Official Fiat approval: Fiat 9.55535-DS1

Selenia WR Pure Energy 5W-30 engine oil Euro 5 emission standard for Fiat Ducato engines

Selenia WR (Wide Range) Pure Energy 5W-30 is a fully synthetic motor oil that meets the requirements of Euro 5 diesel engines. The ACEA-C2 specification certifies the low ash content. This property ensures that the anti-particulate filter is protected against the combustion residue. This prevents the soot particle filter from clogging.

Original Fiat engine oil offers the following advantages

• It strengthens the protection of the engine
• It increases the fuel economy of the engine
• low ash content, which protects the efficiency of the diesel engine

Technical specifications:

• SAE 5W-30
• ACEA C2
• Official Fiat approval: Fiat 9.55535-S1

 

[rob1234]

Its a mine field but I cant find any recommended oil at acea 4 or 5

https://rockoil.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/AUTOMOTIVE-ENGINE-OIL-RANGE-INFO-SHEET_I22.pdf

Rock Oil Synthesis F 5W-30 Engine Oil » Tyne and Wear Oils

Rock Oil Synthesis F 5W-30 Engine Oil Rock Oil Synthesis F 5W-30 fully synthetic engine oil is a premium engine oil specifically for use in Ford and Jaguar Land Rover vehicles.

twoils.co.uk

Synthesis Sport 5W-30 - Rock Oil

rockoil.co.uk

Selenia WR Forward 0W-30 Euro 6 engine oil for the new Fiat Ducato motorhome engines

Selenia WR (Wide Range) 0W-30 is the new fully synthetic engine oil specially made by Fiat for diesel engines with Euro 6 standards.

The viscosity grade of 0W-30 has a direct influence on the fuel consumption and reduces it, thereby reducing the production of CO2.

Original Fiat engine oil offers the following advantages

• minimizes fuel consumption
• High thermal stability
• Increased engine protection through the use of the original oil

Technical specifications

• SAE 0W-30
• ACEA C2
• Official Fiat approval: Fiat 9.55535-DS1

Selenia WR Pure Energy 5W-30 engine oil Euro 5 emission standard for Fiat Ducato engines

Selenia WR (Wide Range) Pure Energy 5W-30 is a fully synthetic motor oil that meets the requirements of Euro 5 diesel engines. The ACEA-C2 specification certifies the low ash content. This property ensures that the anti-particulate filter is protected against the combustion residue. This prevents the soot particle filter from clogging.

Original Fiat engine oil offers the following advantages

• It strengthens the protection of the engine
• It increases the fuel economy of the engine
• low ash content, which protects the efficiency of the diesel engine

Technical specifications:

• SAE 5W-30
• ACEA C2
• Official Fiat approval: Fiat 9.55535-S1

no neither could i that's why i put the c3 in last year ,,and it will be staying in till i come back from France in July ,,that will be that will be 19 months,,and about 3000 miles ,,ish

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[the1andonly]

In my euro6 Ducato i use
Fuchs TITAN GT1 Pro 2312 0w-30 Premium Performance Fuel Economy Engine Oil This complies with the requirements of the Fiat spec.

I also change every year especialy if low mileage. If you exceeded 10000 pa then Fiat advice is every 2 years. The effect of condensation in the oil is to oxidize the additives and create an acid environment, even more so with high Sulphur fuels. A regular blast up the motorway helps drive away the water preventing acid generation. Another contaminant that is very detrimental to oil is ethelyne glycol, anti freeze, however Modern antifreezes do not contain ethylene glycol any more, but OAT based (not porridge oats). Short start stop runs or long idling are the most detrimental to oils and engines with diesel dilution and varnishing.

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[Drexl]

Agree with what TOAO says above - from my point of view it's whether to go with the vans oil degradation countdown or a fixed time interval (assuming using an OE filter and approved oil or same quality equivalents for both regimes). I do about 5-6k per year and as I prefer to do my own servicing (on open driveway) it is convenient for me to do it annually in summer when the weather is good and it's a pleasure to be outside. My first countdown after 18 months from new told me needed an oil change late Feb. After that didn't really want to go with the countdown and find it needs doing in January/Feb in maybe bad weather. Also doing it earlier than the countdown can only be beneficial - thats my view.

 

[Hettie's Crew]

In my euro6 Ducato i use
Fuchs TITAN GT1 Pro 2312 0w-30 Premium Performance Fuel Economy Engine Oil This complies with the requirements of the Fiat spec.
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I also change every year especialy if low mileage. If you exceeded 10000 pa then Fiat advice is every 2 years. The effect of condensation in the oil is to oxidize the additives and create an acid environment, even more so with high Sulphur fuels. A regular blast up the motorway helps drive away the water preventing acid generation. Another contaminant that is very detrimental to oil is ethelyne glycol, anti freeze, however Modern antifreezes do not contain ethylene glycol any more, but OAT based (not porridge oats). Short start stop runs or long idling are the most detrimental to oils and engines with diesel dilution and varnishing.

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For the first five years our 2014 Ducato based was serviced by a Fiat Professional dealer and they used Fuchs Titan.