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[Folkranger]

Unplugged the van from the mains at home and drove 2 hours to site. Mains now not working. Tried someone else's lead and still nothing so its a fault in the van. The mains trip switches are on so nothing tripped. But no mains. We'll be alright for the weekend on 12v and gas but Dores anyone know of anything else to try?

 

[Swifter]

Is the site bollard 100% working ? Have you had it checked ? Have you checked the trip switches on the bollard ?

 

[Folkranger]

Is the site bollard 100% working ? Have you had it checked ? Have you checked the trip switches on the bollard ?

Bollard trips ok, tried 3 bollards including a neighbours with his cable that is working but not a light anywhere on mine. 12v only.

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[Phill D]

did you by chance pull a wire or a pin, in the EHU socket of the van when disconnecting. worth a check.

 

[tonyidle]

Switch off the RCD in your van then connect to bollard. If that's OK switch off the van MCBs then switch on the van RCD. If still OK switch on the MCBs one at a time. Note which one causes the bollard to trip. My guess is you won't get this far.

 

[Brianmor]

Sometime the mcbs trip but will look normal, turn them all off and then on again. If that doesn't work turn them all off including the main rcd, then turn the main rcd on by itself and then try the test button. If it doesnt trip then the power isn't getting to the main rcd

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[Folkranger]

Switch off the RCD in your van then connect to bollard. If that's OK switch off the van MCBs then switch on the van RCD. If still OK switch on the MCBs one at a time. Note which one causes the bollard to trip. My guess is you won't get this far.

Not sure what you mean. What can be OK if the RCD is switched off? Also nothing that I can find has tripped.

 

[Al n Val]

Have you got a multimeter or have any of your new neighbours around you, i'd suggest testing the incoming supply from the cable first, then test it at the back of the hookup socket if it easy to get to. Then if alls well up to now go to consumer unit and see if you have supply there as well, trip the main incoming breaker to see if its tripping, switch back on again and test the live - neutral busbars for voltage.

If ok then you have to test each individual breaker but i'm thinking if you have supply to the main breaker from the ehu cable into the consumer unit itself, its either a loose connection to the main breaker or its knackered.

I'm suggesting all this as long as you are competent to carry out such testing or one of the guys around you are.

PLEASE DO NOT ATTEMPT ANY OF THIS UNLESS YOU ARE 100% SURE YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING AS WE DON'T WANT ANY ACCIDENTS

I think it will be the incoming supply not getting to the consumer unit tbh.

Al

 

[Folkranger]

Ok tonyidle Brianmor
Here's pics if what I've got. I've turned all off and on again and pressed reset button, but not necessarily on the right order. I'll try as you say.

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[Brianmor]

Not sure what you mean. What can be OK if the RCD is switched off? Also nothing that I can find has tripped.

If the test button works, then that means the 240v is getting to the main rcd. If the test button doesn't work then it's possible that there is a bronze connection between the external lup and your fusebord

 

[Folkranger]

Al n Val
Had to be the weekend I left all my tools and multimeter at home. The neighbouring van hook up didn't work although ok in his van so I believe it's my van at fault. Nothing is showing as being tripped so I think you may be correct and the supply may not be getting to the consumer unit.

 

[Brianmor]

Try the orange test button on the 2nd picture

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[The Wino]

Why not ask the neighboring van if you can plug his ehu lead in for a moment. If it then works it narrows the possibilities.
We had a failed mains connection on the MH.

 

[Folkranger]

Why not ask the neighboring van if you can plug his ehu lead in for a moment. If it then works it narrows the possibilities.
We had a failed mains connection on the MH.

Already done that but thanks for the advice.

 

[pappajohn]

Obviously not the lead...
Obviously not the consumer unit... Though I have no idea why you have two units.
Got to be between the vans hookup socket and consumer unit/s.
Locate the flex between the two and see it any conductors have pulled out.

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[Folkranger]

Try the orange test button on the 2nd picture

Ok tried that. And also the one on the white c.u. nothing trips so therefore no supply to either I suppose. Pointing more to a broken connection between the van hook up socket and the first c.u.

 

[Brianmor]

The next step is when you can get a screwdriver and multi meter is to remove the fuse board cover and try the cables in the back of the main rcd with the orange button. As Al said ONLY do this if you know what you're doing.
Good luck

 

[autorouter]

What is that blue unit with the trips on it? Is it an inverter? Does it have a make/model label?

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[Folkranger]

did you by chance pull a wire or a pin, in the EHU socket of the van when disconnecting. worth a check.

Will check out when back at home

 

[Folkranger]

Though I have no idea why you have two units.

Nor have I. The prior owner built boats and kitted this out with what he felt to be the best.

Locate the flex between the two and see it any conductors have pulled out.

Wouldn't it be nice if access was always good. I'll kill the next funster who advocates trimming cable ties for neatness. It Just ripped my hand open on one while attepting to trace the cable route.

 

[Al n Val]

Nor have I. The prior owner built boats and kitted this out with what he felt to be the best.

Wouldn't it be nice if access was always good. I'll kill the next funster who advocates trimming cable ties for neatness. It Just ripped my hand open on one while attepting to trace the cable route.

I always used to trim the cable ties with a stanley knife flat so no sticky out sharp bits

when I say i've done millions I really mean millions, maybe billions LOL

Please do not kill me , I wish I was their with you we'd have it sorted hopefully in no time, it will be something daft you bet

Al

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[Folkranger]

The next step is when you can get a screwdriver and multi meter is to remove the fuse board cover and try the cables in the back of the main rcd with the orange button. As Al said ONLY do this if you know what you're doing.
Good luck

I'll be testing these out when I get home. I'm assuming the hook up inlet goes direct to the original (white) c.u. and not via the Victron set up. I can safely test the electri wiring but I'm dammed if I have a clue about the Victron charger, inverter, b2b, solar, bms...... system.

 

[Folkranger]

I always used to trim the cable ties with a stanley knife flat so no sticky out sharp bits

when I say i've done millions I really mean millions, maybe billions LOL

Please do not kill me , I wish I was their with you we'd have it sorted hopefully in no time, it will be something daft you bet

Al

I wish you were here too. If you're near York I promise not to harm you.

 

[autorouter]

So the blue unit with the trips on it is a Victron unit. Is there a model number on it? Are there any other units?

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[Al n Val]

I wish you were here too. If you're near York I promise not to harm you.

i’m only in Normanton so if you need a helping hand give me a shout, as long as I don’t have to thread my non bendy body into non accessible places i’m ya man

Whoever snipped that tie wrap needs gelding

Al

 

[Folkranger]

i’m only in Normanton

Thanks for your kind offer. We'll be OK this weekend and test it through when we're home.

Whoever snipped that tie wrap needs gelding

Preferably with one of his cable ties.

 

[Folkranger]

Just checked the wiring route. Sadly the ehu goes straight into the Victron unit, which shows no signs of life, then out to the original consumer unit. So its either a wire dropped off the van ehu socket or summat wrong inside the Victron.

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[Phill D]

Just checked the wiring route. Sadly the ehu goes straight into the Victron unit, which shows no signs of life, then out to the original consumer unit. So its either a wire dropped off the van ehu socket or summat wrong inside the Victron.

My money is on that a wire in the ehu socket was disturbed when you unplugged.

 

[pappajohn]

Nor have I. The prior owner built boats and kitted this out with what he felt to be the best.

Maybe is the best but appears clueless.
It's showing a 16a MCB in the input position and a 25a RCD in the output position.
The RCD should protect the rest of the breakers/circuits so should be the inlet position.
Of course, it could have some weird wiring inside rather than a busbar.

 

[Al n Val]

Also the 25a RCB looks like it’s not seated properly as it’s wedged under the cover