No Holidays abroad Allowed

Carol

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If it comes into Law no holidays abroad from next week, I didn't see that coming, will it happen, and if we can't go out will visitors be allowed in.
I know in theory it's best not to travel abroad at the moment but to see it so stark on Sky news seems a different situation.
 
Thank goodness the Government are listening, the scientists have been warning for weeks that the risk to the country at this critical stage of the vaccine programme is huge, if a mutant strain was to enter now we could very quickly be back to this very day a year ago.
The Government for political reasons have been focusing more on the success of the vaccine programme and not the risk each stage of mass vaccination creates. They do now however seem to have got the message and this is the best news ever to protect the country.
Not what any of us want but given the current crisis stands us in good stead to continue protecting our vulnerable and getting mass protection for the rest. This way we can resume a reasonable level of life in the U.K. until such time the rest of Europe and the world catch up.
Nobody loves touring Europe more than we do and long to get back out on the open road. If we can only tour the U.K. for the interim then so be it. It is a small price to pay to protect each other and travel the road back to pre COVID days.

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Complete infringement on civil liberties and human rights. This stasi regime we now live in are chipping away at every part of our lifes policed by a state run militia . Why have we stood aside and allowed this. I hope that they government’s extension of their 6 month Covid legislation is blocked later this week but unfortunately we have an ineffective opposition in Parliament and regional assemblies in Scotland Wales and Northern Ireland that are ineffective and just want to play games. I never thought I would ever seen anything so sinister as this in my lifetime
 
The way its reported here this is to back up the existing restrictions and so should end on May 17th

www.bbc.co.uk

Covid: £5,000 fine for people going on holiday abroad

It is due to come into force in England next week as some other lockdown restrictions are eased.
www.bbc.co.uk


Any further extension of this would be a gross infringement of our civil rights and I for one would be joining the protests.
 
jongood said:
The way its reported here this is to back up the existing restrictions and so should end on May 17th

www.bbc.co.uk

Covid: £5,000 fine for people going on holiday abroad

It is due to come into force in England next week as some other lockdown restrictions are eased.
www.bbc.co.uk


Any further extension of this would be a gross infringement of our civil rights and I for one would be joining the protests.
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Yes watch them move the goalposts again. I will join you. I can see us having a convoy of motorhomes converging on Parliament
 
carolyn said:
Must admit I thought we weren’t allowed to travel abroad except for exceptional reasons anyway so surely this is a good thing, if people flout the restrictions they should be punished.
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The Kite they are currently flying is to extend it by some months. Its very hard to see justification for this when numbers all round are down and even on the wobbly figures supplied deaths are likely to be in single figures before May when if it follows last year the seasonal aspect will alter.

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I, like many had hoped to travel to France (probably in September) but respect the need to protect the community as a whole. IMHO travel should be permitted - assuming our figures are low enough, HOWEVER I would expect people to have to quarantine on their return to prevent (hopefully) any variants being introduced. Europe’s vaccination program will certainly be a consideration when I eventually decide!
 
carolyn said:
Must admit I thought we weren’t allowed to travel abroad except for exceptional reasons anyway so surely this is a good thing, if people flout the restrictions they should be punished.
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Leaving aside the 'exercise' scam,You aren't allowed out the house except food shopping medical or work,legally. And no one is taking any notice Of that?
 
jongood said:
The way its reported here this is to back up the existing restrictions and so should end on May 17th

www.bbc.co.uk

Covid: £5,000 fine for people going on holiday abroad

It is due to come into force in England next week as some other lockdown restrictions are eased.
www.bbc.co.uk


Any further extension of this would be a gross infringement of our civil rights and I for one would be joining the protests.
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I would sooner have my civil liberties infringed than risk catching a killer virus. There is nothing imperitive about holidaying abroad and it is only temporary even if it rules out travel abroad this year.
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EzeeRider said:
I would sooner have my civil liberties infringed than risk catching a killer virus. There is nothing imperitive about holidaying abroad and it is only temporary even if it rules out travel abroad this year.
ezee
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So why have we spent all this money on vaccines then?

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gus-lopez said:
Leaving aside the 'exercise' scam,You aren't allowed out the house except food shopping medical or work,legally. And no one is taking any notice Of that?
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The majority of people I know have taken this very seriously. I think it’s only a minority that haven’t. The news and newspapers don’t portray real life. I know I live in quiet Sherborne but one of my sons lives in London and the streets are pretty empty. He has to go into work as he works with the homeless.
 
To the naysayers ... the real risk is that the South African variant, which we seem to have managed to contain, is widespread in certain parts of Europe. With a 3rd wave in Europe, new vaccine resistant variants are increasingly likely.
So we can open up here, allow international travel then go back to March 2020 position and start again.
Or, hopefully, open up here, ban international travel and hopefully ride this out.
I’m desperate to go to France but of the two options I choose the latter.
 
carolyn said:
Must admit I thought we weren’t allowed to travel abroad except for exceptional reasons anyway so surely this is a good thing, if people flout the restrictions they should be punished.
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It is not good. Because quite simply once they put on powers like this they won’t remove them or it sets a precident to continue with this. It’s another appalling example of over state power and control

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I am glad the government are getting tough . Well done , too many people have been bending the rules to the limit , going thru third countries to get their fix . A small price to pay , any way the rules will be reviewed regularly .
 
Let's look at another couple of other things which the Gov. might have considered when making this move.

1, It puts massive pressure on the EU, just when they are discussing restricting the export of OUR vaccines from the EU.

In effect we are saying to Spain and Greece and few other Countries which REALLY, REALLY want our tourist dollar, "sorry, but we've had to ban UK tourists this year, it would have been different if we'd been able to finish our vaccine program, but you lads would not give us the vaccine to do that."

2, If tourism from the UK does not happen this summer than a VAST amount of money which would have been spent abroad will be spent in the UK.

Let's say 1m families were looking to go to the EU on holiday and each holiday costs £3000 and they would spend £1500 while on holiday, then £4500 x 1m = £4,500,000,000, which I think is 4.5B? Add on all the other forms of holidaymakers, stag groups, MHs etc etc and I'll bet it's the thick end of £10B which could be available to spend in the UK. Enough to give the Chancellor a few wet dreams there.
 
Sandancers said:
Let's look at another couple of other things which the Gov. might have considered when making this move.

1, It puts massive pressure on the EU, just when they are discussing restricting the export of OUR vaccines from the EU.

In effect we are saying to Spain and Greece and few other Countries which REALLY, REALLY want our tourist dollar, "sorry, but we've had to ban UK tourists this year, it would have been different if we'd been able to finish our vaccine program, but you lads would not give us the vaccine to do that."

2, If tourism from the UK does not happen this summer than a VAST amount of money which would have been spent abroad will be spent in the UK.

Let's say 1m families were looking to go to the EU on holiday and each holiday costs £3000 and they would spend £1500 while on holiday, then £4500 x 1m = £4,500,000,000, which I think is 4.5B? Add on all the other forms of holidaymakers, stag groups, MHs etc etc and I'll bet it's the thick end of £10B which could be available to spend in the UK. Enough to give the Chancellor a few wet dreams there.
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But these holidaymakers may well in some part be replaced by those from EU countries to some extent. Especially if the stags and hens are still in the coup as it were which might make lots of venues more attractive possibly.
 
jongood said:
So why have we spent all this money on vaccines then?
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I get that and your desire to get the wheels rolling but then read stewartwebr's post #5 and I think ah OK we are only vaccinated against the virus that we have on our shores at the moment and if we get another mutation that the virus is not effective against then we are in deep s---t.

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jongood said:
The Kite they are currently flying is to extend it by some months. Its very hard to see justification for this when numbers all round are down and even on the wobbly figures supplied deaths are likely to be in single figures before May when if it follows last year the seasonal aspect will alter.
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what happens when you come back from your jaunt with a new variant and then it starts all over again
 
Sandancers said:
Let's look at another couple of other things which the Gov. might have considered when making this move.

1, It puts massive pressure on the EU, just when they are discussing restricting the export of OUR vaccines from the EU.

In effect we are saying to Spain and Greece and few other Countries which REALLY, REALLY want our tourist dollar, "sorry, but we've had to ban UK tourists this year, it would have been different if we'd been able to finish our vaccine program, but you lads would not give us the vaccine to do that."

2, If tourism from the UK does not happen this summer than a VAST amount of money which would have been spent abroad will be spent in the UK.

Let's say 1m families were looking to go to the EU on holiday and each holiday costs £3000 and they would spend £1500 while on holiday, then £4500 x 1m = £4,500,000,000, which I think is 4.5B? Add on all the other forms of holidaymakers, stag groups, MHs etc etc and I'll bet it's the thick end of £10B which could be available to spend in the UK. Enough to give the Chancellor a few wet dreams there.
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Except that there isnt the capacity in the UK to cope with it and by forcing people to stay here they will also be forcing them closer together.
 
funflair said:
I get that and your desire to get the wheels rolling but then read stewartwebr's post #5 and I think ah OK we are only vaccinated against the virus that we have on our shores at the moment and if we get another mutation that the virus is not effective against then we are in deep s---t.
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Not so martin, according to the ongoing trials they are resistant to all current variants offering varying levels of protection all of them significant.
 
jongood said:
Except that there isnt the capacity in the UK to cope with it and by forcing people to stay here they will also be forcing them closer together.
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Forcing British vaccinated people not with unvaccinated abroad

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